Forum Post: Proposed List Of Demands. version 2.0
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 9, 2011, 3:05 a.m. EST by jhc
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Demand one: make consumer goods more expensive for everyday Americans.
Demand two: we want another ponzi scheme similar to our current social security system.
Demand three: I want more foodstamps! No seriously, Blue Bunny is just not cutting it. I really want some Häagen-Dazs.
Demand four: community college is not cheap enough! We want it for free. Paid for by money grown on trees.
Demand five: make energy prices more expensive for everyone, including myself. That said I'm either unemployed or get paid close to minimum wage, so why am I doing this?!
Demand six (one): infrastructure spending NOW! GDP = C + I + "G" + NE. These motherfuckers need jobs!
Demand seven: we want to build up our clean energy infrastructure by destroying the vast majority of our existing clean energy infrastructure (hydro/nuclear). (http://www.eia.gov/energy_in_brief/major_energy_sources_and_users.cfm)
Demand eight: we want equal rights! We want one group to have more privileages than another group!
Demand nine: we want cheaper labor right here in America! Combined with demands one and five, I just really want someone to fuck me in the ass.
Demand ten (two): ...
Demand eleven: We want to completely destroy the retirement funds, 401Ks and pension plans of virtually every single American living in America (and abroad) that are invested in sovereign bonds, stocks of financial institutions, and student loan/credit card receivables. We also want to give back money to the big corporations by allowing them to default on their bonds.
Demand twelve: see demand eleven.
Demand thirteen (three): ...
written in response to: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-st-moveme/
Demand 8 is perfect. I wonder how nobody understands the logical fallacy of "special interest" groups fighting for "equality". Dun make no sense!
ultimately, you are not in a position and nobody is to brainstorm up mere demands. demands are stupid and infantile. complaints and then problem defintions and then detailed problem solutions are great. that requires time and homework to generate, not bong hits and then a brainstormed imagine yourself as emperor of the world Scrawl. this kind of thing does not help the movement, it just gives the powers that be ammo against us and prevents meaningful conversations which have depth or open source research and problem solving because you and everyone else imagines we can just skip all the steps and churn out "demands." Listen to the other people in the movement who are wisely saying NO to demands lists. I have demands, they are to the movement itself- thats where the real game is.
"Would you rather have war in this land? Do not confront me work with me...Civil unrest could very well lead to civil war... This list will prevent civil war.... Infantile, we are all infants in conciseness, which explains your poor choice of words.... You should be telling me how to make the list better not how it will never work."
↧ gawdoftruth (Santa Barbara, CA) 1 points 0 seconds ago
no, you need to drop making lists of demands. period. until you do open source research and science centered problem solving with other people, you have nothing to say worth repeating. your brain storming in ignorance. it sounds really really awesome to you- but for many people your tone def. Making demands is itself a sign of infantilism. period. Take responsibility and start working the problems in a deep and real way. I should not have to run through this further with you. This is a ludicrous sense of direction, it is not helping the movement and its not useful or meaningful for long term strategy in fact all it is is a giant set of red rings to give the pundits a clear target.
I don't want war. how i stop the war is to work the problems in a deep way and address the war. Not make demands. I'm an adult, not a seven year old, not a hostage taker, not a terrorist. I don't make demands, i communicate evolutionary truths. If ten thousand people follow my example we can have an evolution. If you run around like a bunch of punk alpha dominant azzholes, i promise you, all of your demands will lead to nothing but scorn and alienation.