Forum Post: Proof there were no planes
Posted 11 years ago on June 21, 2012, 4:06 p.m. EST by sirtruthhurtsalot
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Load of crap - I was watching the coverage as it happened that morning - I saw the 2nd plane hit. I have also seen other independent ( home made/recorded ) video that showed the scene from different locations.
Stick your head back-up your ass.
I saw the 2nd plane hit in real-time also. I happened to be on vacation that week and was watching the Today show live. They were already focused on the 1st burning building when the 2nd one was hit, and they gasped (as did I) when it happened.
There is a simple way to completely discredit this nonsense. If this was a "military grade hologram", then what happened to all the passengers? They purchased tickets (on the record). Did these people just disappear? Was there a conspiracy of such monumental proportions that they were somehow rounded up and secretly done away with to appear they had died in the crash when they didn't?
This is complete bullshit of the highest order of magnitude.
I am with you on this UD.
BS total BS and I believe an attempt to mess with the forum by trying to sell BS tabloid fictions here as a way to distract from real conversation and real issues.
Another shill attack.
You know, there are some people who will believe anything. There are some people, to this very day, that deny mankind set foot on the moon and that it was all a government show broadcast from a hidden facility (so where did all that moon rock come from?).
There are still people, to this very day, that are flat-earthers.
The world will always be possessed of paranoid schizophrenics. Not all of them get diagnosed. Not all of them get meds.
People living under constant stress ( living in perpetual crisis ) have a tendency to lose touch with reality. They are then ripe for manipulations of the corrupt/criminal. There are an awful lot of people living in a state of perpetual crisis in today's society/world.
There are those who will always doubt truth and will accept fiction - their numbers increase in adversity.
You are missing the point of posts like this,. this is done to detract from actual evidence that 9/11 did not happen the way the gov. has claimed,. they post sht like "Space Lasers" and "Holograms" to have anyone pointing out the flaws in the official conspiracy get lumped in with these absurd claims. Go here: http://www.wtc7.net watch the 3 minuets of videos, and if you still think this is anything but a controlled demolition then I will be suprised.
Obviously you have never had a course on thermo dynamics - or if you have you have forgotten it.
Metal changes state/property when placed under varying conditions of stress heat cold applied weight ect.
Hell back in junior high their were experiments conducted to show the strength and resistance variables between a wood beam or an "I" beam when under load during a fire - this is basic engineering destructive testing.
The "I" beam was shown to give way upon being heated in a fire prior to a wood beam giving way due to loss of material/structure.
Sky scrapers are engineered to collapse as otherwise they would be much more of a hazard to the surrounding area. Study engineering concepts and development - you need to get in touch with reality.
We have seen the "designed to collapse" or "engineered to collapse" comments posted many times by forum trolls and regime plants but never in any relevant authoritative context. And the rest of what you posted strongly suggests YOU never had a course in "thermodynamics" either.
You are ignorable. This, on the other hand, is irrefutable:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
Good video. good comment. After all, i understand the mission of the topic like this one "Forum Post: Proof there were no planes", - to bring the pigeons attention. to open up bully-headed eyes. thanks everybody. (just dont use permalink from here)
you sounds a fucking crazy. you must be have liberal education but NOT the technical one. NY stands on the rock ground, which is allowed to build skyscrapers like WTC. building always designed to stand steel, if you know what i mean. Hon, sometimes you better be quiet.
There were never any flights, so there were never any passengers.
This is my first, and last, comment to you because you need to be locked up in a looney bin, and I do not waste my time with crazy people.
Ad hominem. Attack the proposer, not the arguments... hmmm... I mean... the other way around... the spoon... you can bend it only if you realize there is no spoon... just like there were no planes....
Look psycho, don't start spewing logical fallacies my way. I am more familiar with them than most on this site and point them out all the time. Logical fallacies are used to point out incorrect reasoning, not to turn delusions into reality.
Trust me. You don't want to press me on this, and I have no time or patience for your particular brand of insanity.
ad hominem
I see you've once again used your bots to vote yourself up high. Don't you have anything better to do?
Do you know what are military grade holograms?
I know Toxic levels of BS - and you are a spewer of such. sirshitsalot.
haha. That is what we call my kitten :)
The truth hurts, does it.
You tell me.
Are you crying at your computer terminal due to the fact that everyone knows you are full of shit?
Computer terminal? Is this 1975? People also spit on the Messiah. Being the bearer of light is not an easy task, but I do it with pride.
You sir, have been fooled by military grade technology.
soooo the 2k dead bodies just dropped from the sky? and a space ray transported those buildings from new york to mars? can i have some of your meds?
You could probably have all of em - it's apparent he stopped taking them.
And you are about as funny as a crushed foot.
Oh wow I'm sorry but I respectfully disagree, this thread was hilarious to read.
Perhaps he will continue on with a catalog of the contents of the secret warehouse of area 51.
I'm pretty sure that he knows that it's full of CHILES!
Most people here have one dimensional chili sauce brains.
Oh man I'm all craving a relleno now after all of this.
Being funny ain't my mission. Uncle Sam has crushed your mind like Mexican villagers crush chili. You have chili sauce brain.
Well good cause if it was your mission failed.
You're Uncle Sam's puppet. Dance puppet. Puppet with a long nose. Lie puppet. Puppet with chili sauce brain. Here puppet, I turn you over and drop some chili sauce on my spaghetti.
There were no planes puppet boy.
I was totally unconvinced because I watched the second plane on television that morning ... but then I read what you wrote where you so eloquently characterized the opposition as a "puppet boy". I was swayed. You're right, there were no planes. You convinced me with your undeniable argument.
Welcome to the Truther's club! Your club now! Our club! I think you'll like it, but don't be surprised if we're very busy. Searching for the truth demands hard work! Hours of painstakingly detailed research every single day of the year!
Here's a tip from the inside. If you need a bit of heat by your side at night, I suggest you hit the Intelligent Design building next door. The chicks there play hard. You know, there's nothing like a Catholic girl when she's down on her knees.
Is anyone else laughing themselves sick?
I would and I think that most are. But what is not funny is the tabloid attack on the seriousness of this forum.
Another corpoRAT shill attack - to discredit - to put down - to belittle the forum.
I was laughing at your "intervention." It's definitely not funny how they muck up the forum. But it provides some fine entertainment occasionally. I want to add, I would not be laughing at a person who has been brainwashed into believing such things, that is truly one of the most frightening evil things going on in this country right now.
Sometimes it is good to meet absurdity with absurdity.
What is scary ( not the supporters of this forum - movements against greed corruption and crime ) is that there are those who believe this type of BS. More are willing to accept this type of reasoning as their lives become harder - living on the edge has a tendency to mess with rationality.
Glad to give you a chuckle though - as it is a good stress relief.
You think it's funny that the government tricked its own people and killed thousands of them?
No. But it is funny that you got your ass handed to you for posting this. There's plenty of real stuff to be afraid of.
It's not because 911 made heavy use of military grade holograms that some of it wasn't real. There was a tragedy that day, and it's frankly shocking that this doesn't bother you.
Have you seen Jurassic Park? Proof dinosaurs have been cloned and walk the Earth.
All of the images were nice clear and sharp too. Imagine the bravery of those actors to make such a film being exposed to such live and incredibly dangerous predators.
Your thinking is simplistic, without fantasy. Proust was also stuck in bed, but his mind wandered far outside the realm of his room. I urge you, challenge you, to be most Proustian in your ways.
There were no planes.
sirshitsalot does not know when to stop spewing shit. You need to try selling your BS to a tabloid. They can run it with the latest on the alien autopsy series.
DK, don't you see that this idiot just gets his rocks off upsetting people? Don't spend your precious time even responding to this psychotic. If he's serious, then he is a paranoid schizophrenic. If he's not, then he is just a 1st-class asshole.
Hey Underdog - you bet I understand. I have said more then I need to on this BS post.
But sometimes it is good to meet absurdity with absurdity.
What is scary ( not the supporters of this forum - movements against greed corruption and crime ) is that there are those who believe this type of BS. More are willing to accept this type of reasoning as their lives become harder - living on the edge has a tendency to mess with rationality.
Sometimes what seems totally unnecessary as it confronts the unbelievably fictitious is the assumption that there are those who can not fall prey to such fiction.
War of the Worlds.
Did you watch the video? Unlike Jurassic Park, it's not Hollywood!
Right its YouTube.... very authoritative. Any hack with video editing software can create a conspiracy.
If you think guys on Youtube are motivated to make conspiracies (for what?), then imagine what government officials with military grade equipment and billions in cash are willing to do to give them a reason to go to Iraq and make billions more!
I sometimes believe that the conspiracy theorists find it easier to live with the idea that are omnipotent gov't brought down the towers, than to live with the reality that America is not as "bad ass" as her people believe her to be.
Is America a girl to you? A blonde naked girl?
America is not the problem, the problem is the corrupted government. It seems like you think the government is clean and perfect. Well, if you want to be part of OWS you'll have to learn sooner or later that the government is extremely corrupted. Sorry to burst your fantasy.
Don't be silly. That is just how you write the singular form of a nation when using a possessive, singular pronoun. You best slow your role because you are showing the public just how ignorant you truly are.
Also, I don't believe my statement was meant to infer that the gov't is infallible. In fact, I believe my statement was made to show that no one or no thing is infallible. But to those who can't live with the fact that even the gov't makes mistakes, they have to devise great conspiracies to justify great tragedies. The truth is, that the gov't was a sleep at the wheel and the nation's enemies breached the walls. Plain and simple, but to those who believe our nation is the hegemonic ruler of the world, this simple truth is too hard to grasp, so you create stories that show just how powerful our gov't is.
http://www.reynoldskitchens.com/promotions.asp
Here is a coupon for .75 off of aluminum foil. I expect you go through quite a lot of it with your hats and all.
Actually, there were planes. The buildings were the holograms.
Some physicists do indeed believe we live in a simulation, but then everything would be a hologram of sorts, like the Matrix.
http://www.simulation-argument.com/
This stupidity is designed to marginalize and discredit serious dissent against the government's obvious 9/11 lies. Google Cass Sunstein.
Syrian pilot defects to Jordan with plane
I didn't notice any use of air raids conducted by Syria on it's people that's a bombers job.
The fighters Plane job is to dominate the sky. So if their is international attacks.
A Syrian Fighter Pilot would be the first to be taken out
I was about two miles away on the East River. I saw the plane hit the second tower. Was I seeing things?
What you saw is called a military grade hologram.
I'm not buying that.
Do not try to bend the spoon — that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth: there is no spoon. Hence, there were no planes.
That's a testament to how good military grade holograms are. If you bought it without taking the proper time to research, then we would need to admit that the holograms were not that great or that you were very gullible. All we ask is that you keep an open mind and research it for yourself.
My mind is open. There are things that bother me about 9/11, but whether planes hit the buildings is not one of them
The world is full of gullible idiots. If you believe this crap then the shoe fits.
You fell for what Uncle Sam spoon fed you. Free your mind and think for yourself!
Not a chance I qualify as one of the idiots that would believe this load of crap. Sorry to disappoint you.
It seems you'll be one of the idiots that doesn't. Uncle Sam is playing you like a fool!
Gee, it's over 10 years late you know.
Extraterrestrial Involvement?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMlX31wBLUo [right click]
Always put truth to this test. Truth can only be viewed from every angle at every point in time. It has four dimensions, not two sides.
This video meets the proper time frame but does not meet every angle. It fails the test for truth.
The planes approach is masked by the buildings and smoke. There are many videos clearly showing the second plane hitting the tower.
That second plane you see in some videos is a military grade hologram being transmitted by an orb. Please do your research.
. Seriously, it is so disrespectful to the dead when these kind of wives tales start trolling through the web. I live in CT and had friends who were there, one who actually not only saw the first plane hit, she was getting a cup of coffee, otherwise she would have been gone...but saw the engine fly through the air. Another was across at Merrill Lynch when the second plane went in. What is next- that the people who died in Shanksville, PA because they overtook the plane are not really dead? Maybe the Pentagon was not hit.
This post was submitted by a rightwing nut. Nevertheless the controlled demolitions are what collapsed the buildings. This is the important fact.
There is footage of planes hitting the towers.
First Plane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNw0jOhVJ3A&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL9F43915AA9E91061
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wd6ZgWq5gA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GZkoXHj7B8&feature=related
Second Plane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XELamUnF0EU&feature=related
There is no available footage of a plane hitting the Pentagon.
9 11 aftermath
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZku5KQneL8&list=PL61A84EF774590006&feature=plpp_play_all
[right click]
Why do only half the research? Are you a Truther, or only a half-Truther?
There's no available footage of a plane hitting the pentagon because one never did. There were no planes! Only some holograms. Military grade holograms.
I doubt the holographic technology was available in 2001, twelve years ago. [Do Star Wars technologies really work? I'd like to own a light sabre] Wouldn't it have been used in Iraq in 2003? Wouldn't it be used in Afghanistan today? You know, project 100,000 holographic soldiers instead of 30,000 real soldiers whenever and wherever a surge is needed.
The surge had been developed under the working title "The New Way Forward" and it was announced in January 2007 by Bush during a television speech. Bush ordered the deployment of more than 20,000 soldiers into Iraq, five additional brigades, and sent the majority of them into Baghdad. He also extended the tour of most of the Army troops in country and some of the Marines already in the Anbar Province area.
Iraq War Troop Surge 2007
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War_troop_surge_of_2007 [right click]
CBO estimated the costs of increasing the number of troops in and around Afghanistan from about 70,000 at the end of fiscal year 2009 to about 100,000 by July 2010, averaging 85,000 personnel for fiscal year 2010, according to CBO director Douglas Elemendorf.
Military Surge in Afghanistan Cost
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/77619-cbo-troop-surge-to-cost-36-billion-over-three-years [right click]
Is holographic technology only to be used against a captive civilian population here in the United States?
Military Grade Holography http://records.viu.ca/~soules/media112/zine2000/covert/page3.htm [right click]
Military Holograms and mind control may not be ready for prime time since elections still have to be rigged this year. Wouldn't it be easier for Florida, the land of rocket scientists, to push their mind control button instead of purging 1000s of innocent non-Republican voters so Mitt Romney can win in Florida in 2012?
The Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) was proposed by U.S. President Ronald Reagan on March 23, 1983, to use ground and space-based systems to protect the United States from attack by strategic nuclear ballistic missiles. The initiative focused on strategic defense rather than the prior strategic offense doctrine of mutual assured destruction (MAD). The Strategic Defense Initiative Organization (SDIO) was set up in 1984 within the United States Department of Defense to oversee the Strategic Defense Initiative. The ambitious initiative was widely criticized as being unrealistic, even unscientific as well as for threatening to destabilize MAD and re-ignite "an offensive arms race". It was soon derided, largely in the mainstream media, as "Star Wars," after the popular 1977 film by George Lucas. In 1987, the American Physical Society concluded that a global shield such as "Star Wars" was not only impossible with existing technology, but that ten more years of research was needed to learn whether it might ever be feasible.
Strategic Defense Initiative - Star Wars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative [right click]
Perhaps it was proven that SDI can't work.
Like I said, please do your research! And, for your information, it is being used in Iraq, it is being used in Afghanistan. Military grade holograms are being used around the world!
The US Military Industrial Complex lost $2.3 trillion in 1 year in peace time. Was that real money or a hologram? Billions of dollars spent on SDI only to be reduced in scale a decade later without being deployed.
Star Wars was under the weight of a putative $1 trillion price tag. Some critics warn that SDI actually could cost two and one-half times that. These claims, almost entirely unsubstantiated, have made the cost issue a major stumbling block to development of SDI. In truth, however, SDI will cost American taxpayers just a fraction of these deliberately inflated estimates. While it is unlikely that SDI will be as cheap as the $40 billion claimed by some SDI backers, the price tag probably will be in the range of $115 billion to $120 billion spread out over ten years.
Under the administration of President Bill Clinton in 1993, its name was changed to the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization (BMDO) and its emphasis was shifted from national missile defense to theater missile defense; and its scope from global to more regional coverage. It was never truly developed or deployed, though certain aspects of SDI research and technologies paved the way for some anti-ballistic missile systems of today. BMDO was renamed to the Missile Defense Agency in 2002. This article covers defense efforts under the SDIO.
Cost of SDI Star Wars
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/1987/10/strategic-defense-how-much-will-it-really-cost [right click]
The film made $ billions.
I think you mean military grade marijuana and hashish.
Show us your research.
"Holographic Technologies for Military Applications make a lot of sense really, especially if you consider the potential for data visualization and table top holographic displays of the Net-Centric Battlespace in 4D.
In fact if you read some of the Future Fighting Force research papers and their References and Works Cited and do just a little extra Background Reading of other Research Papers or peruse the Media and surf some Internet Articles on the subject it should be relatively simple to see that this is the future. Battle Simulation and Scenarios can be played in advance so that every possible contingency can be calculated.
Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/543293"
This is in the future. Not the present and not the past. OK?
Holographic Technologies and Military Applications
http://ezinearticles.com/?Holographic-Technologies-and-Military-Applications&id=543293 [right click]
I provided a link in the OP. Did you even watch the video? You'll also note that the video leads to other videos with more evidence which appear on the right side of the youtube screen.
Here's a great article that provides much evidence. I suggest you read it thoroughly, perhaps even twice to let it all sink in.
http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2006/03/putting-it-all-together-no-planes.html
Sometimes a picture is worth 1000 words; a video clip, several thousand, but the clip in the OP needs explanation. What is being shown in that video?
In science fiction, holograms are realistic, moving three-dimensional images. In the movies, if they flicker, it’s just so the audience realises it’s a hologram and doesn’t get confused. Real life holograms are a lot more limited. See this study carried by Dr David Watt on Holograms As Nonlethal Weapons for NTIC, the Nonlethal Technology Innovations Center in New Hampshire.
Read more: http://defensetech.org/2006/11/24/fighting-shadows-military-holograms/#ixzz1yan8IWso Defense.org
Real holograms will not fool people at short range and they do not move, nor can they be projected into a remote location. But they might still have their uses. One of Watt’s suggested applications is ‘deception in an urban environment’. Take a shop window and replace it with a hologram of a window display, and you have an apparently innocuous space where troops can be stationed without any hint of their presence.
Read more: http://defensetech.org/2006/11/24/fighting-shadows-military-holograms/#ixzz1yaoiHieN Defense.org
Military Holograms http://defensetech.org/2006/11/24/fighting-shadows-military-holograms/ [right click]
There are two problems with your video clip and the Hambling article. First it implies the hologram is moving. Second it implies it is projected into a remote location. Third, is location of the camera used to shoot this video of the hologram. Fourth, this article was written in 2006. Since this clip is of an event that occurred in 2001, the technology doesn’t exist now and didn’t exist then.
If the military could project a moving hologram, would it be visible from the air and the ground and from any unobstructed view at any angle?
You don’t have to explain the proof of how this was done. Military grade hashish may be involved. We would need some of that to understand what you're talking about.
You don't support the movement for the Truth?
I support open publishing by all the people with cameras and musing
What your friend saw were military grade holograms. She has a good eye too! It's not easy playing identify that flying object when in a panic and when these objects fly by so fast. Is she an expert in plane parts?
She ran towards the docks The engine block landed on the dock But I am open to ideas Maybe the people like Todd Beamer who was a hero in the PA crash was on a hologram...we can pass the good news to the wife I lost several friends that day...again...there are certain things that are not Humorous...my cousin was working at the school across from tower 2 The kids watched the second plane go in and these heroes Had to evacuate children through hell..carrying wheelchairbound kids Through smoke ...she has never been the same Again...respect is key
This video is altered you retard. I was watching this footage myself when it happened.
Don't insult the mentally challenged! Can you prove the video was altered.
First off I am not insulting the mentally challenged by saying retard its just like calling someone a fag for being stupid. Second off it is altered because I watched the footage with my own two eyes. I also have Friedan who are firefighters and were at 9/11 and saw the god damn plane themselves.
You have a problem with the LGBT community?
The what?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT
I don't care about them that's not even what we are talking about
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