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Forum Post: (President) Ron Paul - A breath of fresh air

Posted 7 years ago on Dec. 21, 2011, 8:21 a.m. EST by philosophicalranter (6) from Wandsworth, England
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Forget Republicans and democrats. This is much bigger now than that middling bunch of self serving elitist.

In 2011 the world has probably witnessed more public disorders and demonstrations against their governments than any other time in living memory, particular in the 'western world'. Everywhere we look there has been turmoil. People around the world, at home and abroad, are demonstrating over the direct or indirect capitalist-corporate interventions that are causing corruption and ruining economies and lives. There is a feeling of revolution to challenge the social-economic structure of the western world because it apparently does not work. This is mostly opposition to oppression in more militarized countries or taking issue over corruption and greed which affects the public and feeds the elite 1%, in more 'civilised nations'. That's not to say every rich man is a bad greedy person, but policy often appears to favour their position at the detriment of the middle and working class. And the future prospects appear to be getting worse and heading towards historic depression.

People have watched banks collapse through mismanagement and mis-selling of mortgage debt, along with bad acquisition investments and the like. These banks are then bailed out using the public purse. Then the public observe as bank bonuses of millions are paid out to the fat-cat dream-sellers who ruined the economy for their own individual gains. The public will continue to endure downturns, artificial inflation and recession. Thereafter more currency from the Federal Reserve is pumped into the economy to create an artificial ease while actually debasing the dollar further against other markets. All the while pensions are scrutinized and effectively altered meaning people work longer, pay more and get less. Unemployment and homelessness increases and more and more people are defaulting on their debts. Corporations exploit, extort and put more burden on public funds (not least environmental 'accidents' such as oil spillages). Overseas many people are used as slaves for food or meagre pay, in order to continue feeding the commercialism funded by Western companies. These people live in poverty and/or live in war torn countries that are attributed to the US or other western powers. All the products are imported and consumed back to the West for over inflated prices.

Then there is unnecessary wars and conflict all adding to unmanageable debt. The US seem obsessed with being the 'World Police' in order to continually justify overspending. Troops are sent to occupy countries (if they have resources of any value) at a cost of trillions of dollars. The idea of terrorism is continually sold to the public without much substance to justify wars that do not need to be fought. They leave Iraq no better off today than it was 10 years ago. They are now eager to focus on Iran and Pakistan. North Korea may also be a new flavour now Kim Jong-il has died and by moving more troops to Australia, the American 'World Police' are sending out a clear message to the new super power of the world, China. The UK have decided to distance itself from the debt juggling Eurozone. The EU itself is looking very weak, as more and more countries economies try to work out why capitalism, based on debt and overspending, eventually doesn't work. Bailing out another country's overspending, causes resentment and distributes more debt elsewhere. There is little doubt that sooner or later economies have no option other than to default and collapse financially. Those social commentators, politicians and economist who have been saying this for years and having been treated as oddballs, communist and anarchist are getting close to being proven correct after all. When it does collapse will the US be so much the police state that bankers will 'disappear' so that debts can be disappeared? Will Europe split and blame each other for dumping their debts on each other and begin a new 'cold war'?

So why vote? I have no reason to sway towards any politician of any political persuasion. In fact, I tend to feel that all politicians are corrupt, if not at first, then later. I am also English and have no say in the US election process. So from my unbiased view, I am not subject to influence over reason. I have not delved into histories much other than YouTube videos and newspaper articles. I have observed all candidates from afar and on face value during the Republican debates. I've heard arguments for all the other Republican candidates and have sensed 'the air around them' and I can tell you now. Rick Perry stinks! What is that? A joke? The man cannot even string a sentence together without an autocue or a drink. I am embarrassed watching somebody so clueless, so uninformed and in such a dangerously high position of power. He continually struggles to articulate because he doesn't know what he is saying. He is constantly reaching to the recesses in his mind. Furthermore he should be in prison for having that innocent man executed. Running for office? How? I haven't seen a bigger puppet since George.W.Bush. Wow, can you imagine what a conversation between him and George would be like. I don't know but I watched "Step Brothers" last night and two immature grown ups talking nonsense fits well.

Hmm, now I'm thinking of "Dumb and Dumber". Nevermind... moving on. The attached Ron Paul videos on this blog are examples of why I finally decided to stick my neck out and say, "America. Here is your man." Isn't it about time America had someone in the office who is a Realist. Someone who is honest. Someone who isn't afraid to tell the truth. Do you know why this man flows when he speaks? It's because he knows what he is talking about and believes in what he says. He's being honest about who he is, what matters and what doesn't matter. This man doesn't speak in sound-bites. He speaks from the heart and has a very realistic take on life. Ron Paul is radical and it's refreshing. He too, along with Occupy protesters, sees the Federal Reserve as illegal and the cause of much of America's troubles. When I first heard of this guy condemning the 'Fed', I fully expected to see the usual politician, hitting the right buttons, jumping on the bandwagon, just before an election. None of it! Ron Paul has been saying it for years.

Another Ron Paul policy is to recall all the troops around the world and to look after the US's own country. The US have around 900 bases in approximately 130 different countries spending trillions of dollars. Why does America think it's rightful place is to police the world when they aren't even looking after their own people properly. Don't get me wrong, if a country is carrying out atrocities; if they incite or threaten peaceful countries; if they are at war creating human rights crimes, then they should be stopped. However, we have a tools for that called the United Nations and NATO. Used correctly, this army can ebb or flow depending on requirement using the military from all nations who are signed into it. Why do the US, UK and other nations need to deviate from what is a fairer representation of 'World Police'. In addition to bringing home the troops, Paul would get rid of Income Tax. Why complain about that? He will shred bureaucracy into ribbons and allow the individual to do as they please. This obviously comes with the consequence that you have to look after yourself. This is true liberty and freedom, not just a great speech, a real opportunity to have these things. That he can answer a difficult subject like cannabis so eloquently and honestly, is quite frankly refreshing and testimony to his ideals of lessening government intervention and his work as a physician. Working in the health industry myself, I have never seen a patient who overdosed on cannabis. Any health issue cannabis may throw up at all, pales into insignificance to alcohol. The health service we pay for and enjoy in the UK is vastly overwhelmed by the people who do not look after themselves.

Before this year I didn't know Ron Paul had ever run for office before and I had never even heard of him. America have done a great job of hiding him away over the years. Yet here he is, telling everybody straight, and he has been consistently telling it straight for years. What I don't understand is why Americans haven't been listening to him? Why was he marginalised so much? Even without the propaganda news channels trying to censor the guy, surely most of his policies make sense? There are huge motivations for Americans to vote for Ron Paul. America becomes a more peaceful nation and much of the tension around the world diminishes; American and other nations soldiers and peoples no longer die needless deaths; diplomacy around the world would create better trade lines; there would be less tax to pay and wages would fall in line with inflation; the economy would dip immediately but recover quicker than continuing with the present system; there would be less options for government and banks to manipulate money and cause artificial 'booms' followed by devastating 'busts' and furthermore there would be a reduction of government intervention in markets and on how people live their life. On balance, Ron Paul is not the 'nut' those living in fear believe. He is a very intelligent, well educated and outwardly spoken man. He also appears very approachable and should be a credible president. I would hope, although I doubt, that the 'corruption parasites' that will gather around him, never manage to manipulate him if he is ever elected into office. I hope support for him keeps rolling along and that the mockers and censors are left embarrassed by their denial of a truly inspiring man. My only worry that the power crazy warmongering Americans shut him up in the same way they have done to other peacekeepers. Good Luck Ron and get that defence home quick.

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[-] 1 points by philosophicalranter (6) from Wandsworth, England 7 years ago

Thank you for your reply Trevor and your research. It's good to recognise somebody who is honourable and has integrity even if you don't share the same views. I am a socialist at heart but wouldn't hesitate voting RP if I could. Principles leave you standing alone in the cold.

[-] 1 points by Misfit138 (172) 7 years ago

I registered as an (R) just so I can vote for RP in my state's primary.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

No one in my family or any of my friends or me will vote for Ron Paul. Not now, not ever.

[-] 2 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 7 years ago

OWS should be more concerned about voting for representatives to the National General Assembly.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 7 years ago

Obama is a fraud!!!

Wall Street's takeover of the Obama administration is now complete. "The mega-banks and their corporate allies control every economic policy position of consequence. Mr. Obama has moved rapidly since the November debacle to install business people where it counts most. Mr.William Daley from JP Morgan Chase as White House Chief of Staff. Mr. Gene Sperling from the Goldman Sachs payroll to be director of the National Economic Council. Eileen Rominger from Goldman Sachs named director of the SEC's Investment Management division. Even the National Security Advisor, Thomas Donilon, was executive vice president for law and policy at the disgraced Fannie Mae after serving as a corporate lobbyist with O'Melveny & Roberts. The keystone of the business friendly team was put in place on Friday. General Electric Chairman and CEO Jeffrey Immelt will serve as chair of the president's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-brenner/barack-obama-out-of-the-c_b_813027.html

He's bombed more countries than Bush. Countries like Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, Afghanistan... etc

He extended the Bush tax cuts.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20026069-503544.html

He never actually closed guantanamo bay.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/guantanamo-bay-how-the-white-house-lost-the-fight-to-close-it/2011/04/14/AFtxR5XE_story.html

He lied about ending the wars in Iraq and the current withdrawal was scheduled by the Bush administration. And there is a billion dollar military base in Iraq and I guarantee you that it aint empty.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/obama-iraq_n_1032507.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUTYL8HfCGo

He supported the bailouts of banking institutions that are extracting wealth from our country and stealing people's pensions and homes. The bailout money was used by the federal reserve to create 7.7 trillion dollars out of thin air, and Obama has yet to do anything about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BXPINPwp4w

He also supported the patriot act, which essentially deletes the 4th amendment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqXmQYHV-1I

He's started unconstitutional acts of war against Libya, which he spoke out against when Bush did that to Iraq.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pVo7-gOkqo

Obama signed for the indefinite detention of US citizens without trial into law under provisions of the NDAA and "designates the world as the battlefield and that includes the homeland." -quote senator Lindsey Graham who supported the bill and argued in it's favor.

http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/12/14/us-refusal-veto-detainee-bill-historic-tragedy-rights

http://www.salon.com/2011/12/15/obama_to_sign_indefinite_detention_bill_into_law/

"The killing of al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden in Pakistan and the threats posed by al Qaeda cells in Yemen and Africa underscore the evolving and continuing nature of the terrorist threat to the United States. The Conference Report ensures the United States will have the ability to meet this threat and neutralize terrorists from these groups and conduct effective interrogations."

http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=23d194d7-78c9-4c57-b2d9-31bc3bb7daeb

List of terrorist organizations our country could start war with and the countries they're in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_organizations

"This [the National Defense Authorization Act of 2011] designates the WORLD as the battlefield... and that includes the homeland."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzFygkHgi34

Next stop Africa and Yemen!!! Maybe Iran or Syria next? Fulfill that cold war with some Operation Northwoods and go to war with Russia? Who knows? It's the government. It's a threat to national security to tell you the truth all the time.Maybe China a few years from now?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/obama-heads-to-asia-with-sharp-focus-on-chinas-growing-power/2011/11/10/gIQAOsQkBN_story.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/44/post/obama-us-to-send-250-marines-to-australia-in-2012/2011/11/16/gIQAO4AQQN_blog.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01-2pNCZiNk

“We suggest a distinctive tactic for breaking up the hard core of extremists who supply conspiracy theories: cognitive infiltration of extremist groups, whereby government agents or their allies (acting either virtually or in real space, and either openly or anonymously) will undermine the crippled epistemology of believers by planting doubts about the theories and stylized facts that circulate within such groups, thereby introducing beneficial cognitive diversity.” -Cass R Sunstein, Administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs in the Obama administration.

Oh and don't forget about this Hour long presentation in congress about Al Qaeda members being the Libyan rebels, as well as extremists, rapists, and murderers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G0pUEU603Q&list=FLEwSllwonAZBCc7W3e27_dQ&index=42&feature=plpp_video

In case any of you don't like the first video because it's a republican here is super Liberal Dennis Kucinich railing against Al Qaeda in the rebels as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSUnluGSOdM&list=FLEwSllwonAZBCc7W3e27_dQ&index=43&feature=plpp_video

And here is an article on the Libyan rebel leader admitting to having a bunch of Al Qaeda members in his "rebellion" which is actually just terrorism.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8407047/Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html

And to all the remaining Obama fans, please don't try and accuse me of being in favor of Newt Gingrich or tell me some bullshit about McCain Palin. My criticism for Obama is simply based around facts and in no way means I support a GOP agenda. Obama is a fraud and so is Newt Gingrich.

Until a wise democrat like Dennis Kucinich chooses to oppose Obama, I'm voting Ron Paul. Dennis Kucinich said he'd pick Ron PauI as his running mate in 2008. I believe in the honesty and conviction of Dennis Kucinich and his trust in Ron PauI means a lot.

Dennis Kucinich speaks about Ron PauI in 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py8cXlLyX18

[-] 1 points by philosophicalranter (6) from Wandsworth, England 7 years ago

Furthermore, I've added your reply as a blog. Excellent work. Thank you

http://occupywallst.org/forum/president-ron-paul-a-breath-of-fresh-air/#comment-525851