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Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 9, 2011, 12:23 a.m. EST by meditrix (1)
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I'm rooting for you people -- have even sent in a donation. But I'm old enough to remember the McCarthy era (when I was in my twenties) and can't help feeling that as you forge your identity, you would do well to put on a less radical face. Many people my age who would otherwise support you might be put off by slogans like "Solidarity Forever" as well as by the clenched fist at the top of this page. This invites those who can remember to brush you off as "a bunch of commies." THAT would be unfortunate, because as far as I can tell, you want to see America return to its roots as a vibrant democracy looked up to by all the world, NOT as an offshoot of the former Soviet Union!

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[-] 1 points by Frederick (37) 13 years ago

1.) National Wi-Fi (Access to information, it will also circulate the millions paid for the service into the economy.) 2.) Green Energy, Water and Resource Act. ( Aimed at reducing water, and electricity bills to Free. A one time product purchase to power houses ) 3.) High Speed Rail System (To connect the cities and create jobs) 4.) Technology Grant (For every person over 18 only redeemable to purchase computer device made by an American company) 5.) Electric Car Act (Mass production of a single electric car standard) Model T... 6.) Land Act. (Owner laws of unoccupied land must be examined in aim of selling  land to people for reasonable prices to develop green communities that grow their own food) 7.)  Wholistic Healthcare Reform Act (approach medicine from all angles including preventive and natural remedies while also focusing on reducing cost. ) 8.) Education Reform (School Age Change, Three Year Old Pre K Four Year Old School Age. Early Focus on Math and Sciences.) 9.)  Small Business Investment Act (Give small business a chance to rebuild the nation, big business has seemed to fail) 10.) Increase In Global PR (Let us stop spending more money on war than we do on humanitarian campaigns)

Here is a list of demands that will change our economy, our lives, and the world. More details into these Acts and demands coming soon but for now this is what we need, not what we want.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 13 years ago

honestly we have nothing to do with communism but frankly we are going to communicate effectively and there are some tiny few memes that came out of that which are going to get recycled. The only people who buy into the "communism" ad hom are dupes of the corporate oligarchy and almost exclusively over 50 and thus on their last legs. Its time for people like you to stop letting evil people push your buttons with hot words, and grow up, not time for us to censor ourselves.


to get serious requires a few things they don't have. like chat admins who aren't ego serving propaganda tools, a wiki, 1001 sub forums, an actual game plan, a straight up political platform... you know.. basic organizational things sane people do BEFORE protesting.. like figure out a diplomacy and logic centered metaprocess to give their chatadmins so that they don't really just drive out even more people than the trolls. Adminatrolla. trollaAdmin. Whats the difference to somebody whos got the truth facing a propaganda tool abusing admin powers to push their agenda? how can you prevent such a thing? Metaprocess. did i mention metaprocess? and science diplomacy science psychology science sociology and all those textbooks to read B4 protesting?

you can't have capitalism without a free(SLAVE) market. but you can have a free market without capitalism. And thats strangely the only way it CAN work.

Marketing 101 was fascinating. I admit thats a lot less than a bachelors but its sure more than enough to see whats really going on given the other things I know. Capitalism is not the problem since it does not exist. corporate oligarchy is the problem. capitalism has never been tried. I am a democracy guy. in order for real democracy to function a free market system is required. Thats not capitalism. thats a free market system. there is a subtle difference there which most people would miss. I will again repeat. Neither capitalism nor marxism nor communism nor socialism has ever existed. All of those governments were oligarchy pretending to be something as a con scam. Telling that simple truth gets one banned out of the Chat by either a capitalist or a socialist whos pissed you just said their pet ideology isn't real. It isn't. anybody who thinks that it is is accidentally playing for team corporate oligarchy as a tool. the ONLY system worth talking about is DEMOCRACY. how democracy HANDLES a FREE MARKET system is dynamic and interesting and NOT capitalism.

o. yes. no. yes. what? making change is not reliant on changing the money system one tenth as much as it is on changing the informational ecology. Going to a gold standard as an idea is a proof of ignorance, not a solution. Really the end game is we evolve out of money. To do that we evolve first new currencies and new economic strategies. this leads to economic singularity in about 50 years. If everyone is a millionaire how much you get depends on exactly the material valuation of that money. Which is to say that by the time money becomes obsolete everyone will live like the current millionaire. Tangible items to other tangible items? the real economy is about ideas, change the ideas and everything changes. the problem with the tangible economy is it does not change; its a static reality. you can't make a meaningful gold standard with only enough gold to represent on millionth of the economy. You can make a purely imaginal money system work; but it has to be subject to moral and ethical laws. This is about pinning down those moral and ethical laws and implementing them in new currencies; not trying to imagine a control freak impossible non solution because of the simplicity with which you go about thinking over the problem.

once again. there has never been a socialist or capitalist economy. in all instances such nations were oligarchies. using a mask and a con scam and telling their dupes and pwns that they were something other than oligarchy. the big hump to get over is that the USA oligarchy and the Soviet oligarchy are in on this lie against the rest of us TOGETHER. Neither of them was ever anything other than an oligarchy. both claimed some other system in order to have US fight over the ideals of THAT system while they secretly shafted us all playing a completely different game.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/stop-playing-the-devils-games/

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[-] 1 points by anonymouschristianterrorist (88) 13 years ago

Get real dad, the Right Wing Christians/Catholics and Politicians call anybody who is not one of them a communist. They are a big part of the problem in America today. What you are seeing are there drones working to speed up the Christian overthrow of the America government so they can set up their dictatorship and rule the world using the bible. If you think things are bad now wait till you see these fruitcakes take over, they will make Iran look like a paradise to move to get away from them. That is if they don't let the atomic bombs go and destroy the world in their "End of the World" death wish to meet some fairy tale creature named Jesus.