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Forum Post: Ponerology 101 Snakes in Suits

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 4, 2011, 6:58 p.m. EST by whatishumanity (54)
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                Lobaczewski and The Origins of Political Ponerology

                The Psychopath's Mask of Sanity

                Snakes in Suits

                The Political Psychopath

                The Truth Behind the War on Terror

                Psychopathy at Nuremburg

                The Dangers of Pit Bulls and Climate Control

                Rising to The Top

who are these people? read this link


"Unfortunately, even with these efforts, public knowledge about psychopathy still falls far short of ideal, the "conspiracy of evasion" persists, and the problem rages on. For a disorder affecting more people than schizophrenia,13 and causing exponentially more harm to society, the fact that psychopathy is not a generally understood concept is alarming.

Robert D. Hare, Professor Emeritus of psychology at the University of British Columbia, wrote a book in 1970 summarizing the research available at the time. Since then, he has been at the forefront of psychopathy research, developing the first valid measure of criminal psychopathy, the Psychopathy Checklist (PCL-R), and writing two bestsellers on the subject: Without Conscience in 1993 and Snakes in Suits (co-authored with Paul Babiak) in 2006.

Working with criminal populations, Hare further refined Cleckley's list of psychopathic traits for the PCL-R, settling on twenty characteristics of a prototypical psychopath.

Whereas Cleckley described his psychopathic patients as "carr[ying] disaster lightly in each hand" and "not deeply vicious",14 Hare's Without Conscience presents a much more malevolent look into the mind of the criminal psychopath. As he puts it:

"Psychopaths have what it takes to defraud and bilk others: They are fast-talking, charming, self-assured, at ease in social situations, cool under pressure, unfazed by the possibility of being found out, and totally ruthless... Psychopaths are generally well satisfied with themselves and with their inner landscape, bleak as it may seem to outside observers."15

They see empathy, remorse, and a sense of responsibility - all the qualities usually considered as the epitome of goodness and humanity - as signs of weakness to be exploited; laws and social rules as inconvenient restrictions on their freedom; and antisocial behavior as deliberate "nonconformity", a refusal to "program" by society's artificial standards.

Love, kindness, guilt, and altruism strike the psychopath as comical and childish naiveties for "bleeding hearts", and psychopathic serial murderer Ted Bundy even called guilt, "an illusion... a kind of social-control mechanism."16

Understand the people at the top have no soul, empathy, compassion or morals whatsoever. This is why we're in the state we're in, and we don't recognize what stares us directly in the face.



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[-] 1 points by pathwhisperer (57) 12 years ago

Wow, great to see this post. Lobaczewski's (and others, it was a saga) "Political Ponerology: A Science on The Nature of Evil adjusted for Political Purposes" is one of the great books of history. It is a scientific study of the development of pathocracies (governments under the control of evil individuals and movements).

Selections and commentary on "Political Ponerology": http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/political_ponerology_lobaczewski.htm, http://www.sott.net/articles/show/159686-In-Memoriam-Andrzej-M-obaczewski

Purchase the book: http://www.ponerology.com/

Hi whatishumanity, I notice the comments are all your own. The topic of psychopaths in control of power seems to be too big for most people to wrap their heads around. I've seen this many, many times.

I've been working this vineyard for a long time. Some old blog posts of mine dealing with Wall St. and the economy: http://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/welcome-to-our-sociopaths-gone-wild-economy/, http://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/commonalities-between-wall-street-speculators-andor-fed-bankers-and-sociopaths/

[-] 1 points by whatishumanity (54) 12 years ago

Thanks for those links. Glad to know someone gets it.

People really don't realize what they're up against, that their very lives are in danger, and the lives of many more.

I hope anyone else here reading this doesn't think we're exaggerating!

Understand please, that if this goes too far, that if american sentiment begins to turn and the majority realize how utterly wrong and corrupt the entire system is, a 'distraction' will take place to galvanize american patriotism and make people forget about the movement, returning their trust to the government to take care of them.

Don't forget this, because once it happens, and you see it for what it really is, then you'll understand.

This is what scares the hell out of me. A false flag, perhaps? Sights are set on Iran and have been for a long time. Don't be surprised to see some 'terrorist' cause major harm on american soil. This has been their modus operandi for a very long time and you can be sure plans are already in place.

Kill millions of people just to secure more power? They'll do that and much more AND sleep very well at night. And the propaganda machine will blame the victim. Don't underestimate the enemy.

What do you suppose they would be capable of if they realize the game is up and the masses wake up?

The maniacal psychopaths that run this world will stop at nothing to secure the planet for themselves. Mass murder of billions of people seems unconscionable to most, but this is the day they've been dreaming of. It was written over 2000 years ago, and their plans have worked out better than even they could have imagined.

WAke up people! The champagne is already on ice.

[-] 1 points by pathwhisperer (57) 12 years ago

Blaming the victim is their specialty. They still want to blame unqualified buyers for the worldwide economic crash, these buyers weren't even to blame for the mortgage meltdown. Mortgage backed securities were the cause, they supposedly freed the brokers from risk. The brokers then went out vacuuming up any buyers.

The crash has been caused by untramelled greed and the creation and fraudulent selling of "risk free" financial "products", out of control derivatives, bubble economics, etc. -- they actually thought they had beaten the business cycle and had created a risk free capitalism by securitizing everything and thus diluting the risk.

Nothing structural has changed since 2008. The banks are even more too big to fail, derivatives are even more out of control. We still have a casino economy designed by sociopaths who think they can't lose.

In terms of people not realizing what they're up against, everybody seems to think that sociopaths only fool the other guy, not them.

Finally, what was written over 2000 years ago?

[-] 1 points by whatishumanity (54) 12 years ago

what was written over 2000 years ago?

Revelation of St John

[-] 1 points by whatishumanity (54) 12 years ago

Psychopaths seek positions of power and influence, and politics offers publicity, prestige, and other perks. It also provides positions of ultimate authority over military, industry, and entire populations.

In a world where psychopaths are understandably viewed as morally repulsive, often finding themselves at home in the criminal world, politics offers an opportunity to create a new world, to be free from the ridiculous (in their minds) moral and legal rules of society.

Scanning recent headlines, we regularly see examples of the corruption and fraud typical of white-collar psychopaths:

In what could turn out to be the greatest fraud in US history, American authorities have started to investigate the alleged role of senior military officers in the misuse of $125bn (£88bn) in a US-directed effort to reconstruct Iraq after the fall of Saddam Hussein.

The exact sum missing may never be clear, but a report by the US Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR) suggests it may exceed $50bn, making it an even bigger theft than Bernard Madoff's notorious Ponzi scheme.

(Patrick Cockburn, "A 'fraud' bigger than Madoff", The Independent, February 16, 2009)

Defense Department Cannot Account For 25% Of Funds - $2.3 Trillion
On Sept. 10, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld... said money wasted by the military poses a serious threat...

    "According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions," Rumsfeld admitted...

Rumsfeld promised change but the next day - Sept. 11 - the world changed and in the rush to fund the war on terrorism, the war on waste seems to have been forgotten.

("The War on Waste", CBS, January 29, 2002)
[-] 1 points by whatishumanity (54) 12 years ago

more from the link:

University programs, academic societies, conferences, professional textbooks and manuals, all exist to get a handle on the problem and aid in prevention of these sorts of crimes. But what about their role in crimes against humanity? I haven't been able to find one academic paper examining the role of psychopathy in politics, whether in so-called democratic systems or overt dictatorships.

Just as researchers at first doubted the ability of psychopaths to succeed in business, and the problem remained unexamined, the problem of psychopathy in politics remains steadfastly ignored. Political scientists refuse to look at psychopathy, and psychopathy experts refuse to look at politics.

The results of such blindness are evident in history - and the present - for anyone to see.



    state-sanctioned torture

    "war without end"

    political assassinations

    death squads



    spying on civilians

    "state secrets"

    illegal "espionage",

...and on and on.

The situation is odd, considering the fact that experts have made it increasingly clear that psychopaths can occupy prominent positions in all professions: law, business, medicine, psychology, academia, military, entertainment, law enforcement, even - and perhaps especially - politics.

As Babiak and Hare explain it,

"Many [psychopaths] do manage to graduate from college or obtain 

professional credentials, but in most cases it is less through hard work and dedication than through cheating, getting others to do their work, and generally 'working the system'." 10

[-] 1 points by whatishumanity (54) 12 years ago

It was just one example of the special psychological knowledge possessed by psychopaths, refined after a lifetime of observing and interacting with 'others' whose foreign emotional reactions strike them as so comical and ridiculous. When this special knowledge is translated onto the global stage, you get geopolitics and all the propaganda and lies that accompany it.

Yes, psychopaths crave power and will do anything they can to hold on to it, but even that does not get to the heart of the matter. If a psychopath is not born into a position of influence and power, where he has license to do whatever he feels compelled to do without recourse, he feels like a slave in a system he cannot quite understand. He is hindered by incomprehensible laws, arbitrary social customs and interpersonal rules that make no sense to him. He is not free to be himself.

To a psychopath, true freedom is simply license to use, abuse, and torture other people - physically, emotionally and financially. Any hindrance on that bloated sense of entitlement is a nuisance he dreams of removing by instituting a social system of his own creation.

This is the true definition of 'totalitarianism', 'fascism', or a 'new world order' - a system of government where the psychopath is not arrested for beating his wife, killing his enemies, making emotional wrecks of his family and close acquaintances, stalking those who know his true nature and threaten to reveal it to more of those 'others' who so persecute him. In our world, the 'war on terror' is the means to this end.