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Forum Post: Police Officer Against NYPD police brutality

Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 18, 2011, 11:29 a.m. EST by TrevorMnemonic (5827)
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[-] 3 points by Renaye (522) 13 years ago

Police Officers Please Read!

Sheriffs Rise Up Against Federal Government: Sheriff Threatens Feds With SWAT Team

Political Vel Craft November 16, 2011 As more people became dissatisfied with federal government controls and land grabs, it was inevitable that local law enforcement would eventually see the bigger picture. At the northern California fairgrounds of Yreka last month, seven California sheriffs and another from Oregon gathered with a large group of citizens to say that they are finally going to do something about it. “A giant has been awakened,” said Plumas County, Calif. Sheriff Greg Hagwood, “and they didn’t count on that,” speaking of the federal bureaucracy. With exposure of the Emergency Management Center in San Luis Obispo a few decades ago, California began to offer the rest of the nation some evidence of the psychological conditioning aimed from the federal level at state, county and city law enforcement. Dean Wilson, sheriff of Del Norte County (Sacramento), is a great example of this great awakening. He received the loudest and longest applause for his candor in confessing past faults after apologizing for not understanding the central government assault and land grab being committed against the people and what he should have been doing about it. Only in the past year has he done a turnaround and begun to behave as a county sheriff instead of an extension of federal law enforcement. “I had spent a good part of my life enforcing the penal code, but not understanding my oath of office,” he told the audience. “I was ignorant and naïve, but now I know of the assault against our people by the federal government.”

Host sheriff John Lopey of Siskiyou County, speaking about the federal environmental intervention, said: “I have told federal and state officials over and over that, yes, we want to preserve the environment, but you care more about the fish, frogs, trees and birds than you do about the human race. When will you start to balance your decisions to the needs of the people?” Later he told the audience, “We are right now in a fight for our survival.” A D V E R T I S E M E N T

Glenn Palmer, sheriff of Grant County, Oregon, said, “If an elected official has not taken an oath of office, he does not belong in office.” AFP readers are familiar with the work of former Arizona Sheriff Richard Mack, who has spent the latter half of his life teaching sheriffs that they are the top law enforcement officers in their counties despite continuing federal intervention attempts. The ears that were deaf for so long may finally be starting to hear. “It’s becoming a national movement now,” Mack told AFP, citing Immigration and Naturalization Service failure at the Mexican borders, the phony drug war, plus IRS and other unconstitutional intervention within these states. His plans to take this movement national will be launched at a January meeting, where he anticipates 200 sheriffs will be in attendance. “The county sheriff is the last line of defense guarding our people’s liberty,” he said. Retired USAF Col. Richard Niemela of Reston, Va. has been exposing the federal monster for years. He told AFP: “It’s the surreptitious domination by international globalists insidiously using unauthorized and illegal tactics to render null and void those historic and unique powers of the sheriff.”

[-] 2 points by barb (835) 13 years ago

I wish this man was our sheriff in Maricopa County, AZ.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 13 years ago

did they ever overturn that racial profiling law in AZ?

[-] 1 points by barb (835) 13 years ago

No, they didn't get it overturned. This state is a perfect example of police state mentality and it sucks.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 13 years ago

that's lame. Fascist reign is near.

[-] 2 points by gstraub (3) from Columbia, MO 13 years ago

Here is an excerpt from an excellent article on the online magazine The Globalist: Imagine how an Egyptian, Syrian or Bahraini, or even an Iranian or Chinese, perceives how local U.S. authorities are dealing with the Occupy Wall Street movement. Batons, riot gear, police cordons, limited media access, clearance of public areas — this sounds eerily reminiscent of the crackdown against the Arab Spring protesters, writes Stephan Richter, president of The Globalist Research Center.

Thewhole article may be read here: http://www.theglobalist.com/StoryId.aspx?StoryId=9436

Hypocrisy has been costing us our credibility for a long time, which is why we have resorted to using the "big stick".

[-] 2 points by unarmed (213) 13 years ago

Integrity!!

[-] 2 points by FawkesNews (1290) 13 years ago

Incredible individuals like this man, are proof of America's ability, to replace the current oligarchy, with actual elected officials, already qualified for the jobs, that will soon be available. I hope I get to vote for him someday.

[-] 2 points by aahpat (1407) 13 years ago

Capt Lewis is a credit to the City of Brotherly Love, Philadelphia.

This perspective is why we do not see Philadelphia participating in Barack Obama's national crackdown against OWS. Why Philadelphia has many creep cops it also has a management culture of civility and respect for civil disobedience.

[-] 1 points by powertoothepeople (280) 13 years ago

great contribution

[-] 0 points by ansinha1 (3) from Perth Amboy, NJ 13 years ago

Don't blame police they are just doing their job, its Mayor of the city who wants to wreck the protest.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 13 years ago

I don't care who my boss is, i would never pepper spray an 84 year old woman nor would I throw a tear gas canister at the head of a veteran.

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 13 years ago

Word up!

[-] -1 points by sinead (474) 13 years ago

You know I am really tired of hearing about the police brutality in NYC.... you people have no idea what real police brutality is.... but to give you an idea watch these clips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_9OJnRnZjU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD_amsSsg78

I won't question the sincerity of Capt. Ray Lewis, but I would like to know why he chose NYC and did not stay in Philadelphia, the city he retired from, and support the movement there. I'm not looking for any conspiracy or ulterior motives I'm simply curious.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 13 years ago

Because he wanted to protest Wall Street which he knows is a massive part of the problem. Look up the movie Inside Job, it's about Wall Street and corruption in congress as well.

Also... Yes, police brutality can be worse sometimes. Some tmes much worse than other cases.. But that doesn't mean what has happened here isn't police brutality. We have the 5th amendment in the constitution for a reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_f06VQOkI4&list=FLEwSllwonAZBCc7W3e27_dQ&index=4&feature=plpp_video

[-] 0 points by sinead (474) 13 years ago

I will go out on a limb here (because I hate to assume anything) and take a guess that you are speaking about the part of the 5th Amendment that states: " nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;" Am I right?

If I am, would you explain to me where you see the police violated that amendment?

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 13 years ago

life, liberty and due process.

the 5th No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.

The police can't beat people, tear gas them, and throw away people's property because they are in a park after a certain time.

[-] 1 points by sinead (474) 13 years ago

I think you have twisted that amendment to fit your complaint. While I don't hold with police brutality, when you are in violation of city ordinances or posted rules, when you are creating public hazard or disrupting others right of enjoyment of a public space then the authorities have every right to tell you to leave. And if you refuse then they have the authority to remove you. That park is not your "community" nor does squatting on it give you the right to set up a homestead. To say nothing of the fact that Zuccotti Park while used as public space is owned privately, and the owner could have had the city evict you long ago.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 13 years ago

they have the authority to arrest people for trespassing, and that's it.

This is not acceptable for public camping and protesting on sidewalks during the day time. Public sidewalks are public property. Protesting on public property is not a crime. Very often protesters have been arrested for protesting on the sidewalks. Like in this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyTGM4iCf08&feature=related

[-] 1 points by sinead (474) 13 years ago

That video is so poorly shot there is no way you can tell why that person was arrested...... AND... if you watch it carefully you will see that the "girl" they "dragged" across the street was a male... the girl had a red shirt on and the person they arrested did not have a red shirt on.

And I can tell you that if they were arrested it wasn't for simply "protesting on the sidewalks".....

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 13 years ago

What about this? These students pay to go to school there and it's the day time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_f06VQOkI4

[-] 0 points by sinead (474) 13 years ago

So they pay to go to the school, what does that have to do with anything? I pay to go to a movie, it doesn't give me the right to run up and down the aisles and disturb everyone. And I'm sure even at liberal Berkeley there are rules. It also doesn't matter what time of day it was.

And if this is what you you consider to be a brutal beating I gotta laugh.... those cops were poking those students because they were told to move and they didn't..... If you want to see real police brutality go to YouTube and search for the 1968 Democratic Convention riots..... that is what police brutality really looks like.

When a protest becomes disruptive to the community; stopping traffic, preventing businesses from operating, disturbing the peace... then you are going to have to expect to have some problems. The right to peacefully assemble doesn't give you carte blanche to do whatever you please.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 13 years ago

all protests are disruptive. That's the point. To bring attention about an issue. Claiming noise as a reason for police brutality is stupid. Tell the cops to brutalize bikers and their loud motorcycles. No more response for you.

[-] 1 points by sinead (474) 13 years ago

I realize that a protest is supposed to do just that... disrupt. What I'm pointing out is that when you protest there will be consequences...... but to call what these police did brutality is a stretch......

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