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Forum Post: Police Brutality and a Suggestion for What to Do.

Posted 11 years ago on Aug. 7, 2012, 10:18 a.m. EST by N16mindMachine (0)
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Police brutality is an increasingly immediate threat to the integrity of our civil rights, not to mention the safety of everyone in the community. While police officers in certain places can still be found helpful and polite; much of the nation's law-enforcement department has adopted an aggressive, bullying, intimidating presence.

And they will physically hurt you as they see fit.

Some days ago I posted a feed mentioning a "copwatch" branch of occupy and asking why it had gone. To my chagrin and embarrassment, it turned out that there had been no such thing in the first place- I had seen a lot of posters for a separate organization of the said name when protesting for Occupy events in the past, and associated the two.

My idea for what it would have been might be very useful, though- if it were to be recycled from this foolish error.

It would involve people from occupy going out each day to walk routes that coincide with commonly-seen police-patrol routes in their city or large town. Besides simply enjoying the weather/exercise/whatnot, there would be a specific objective: to be on-the-lookout for police enforcement activity. If such activity is found, it is to be filmed- with a cellphone brought along before heading out.

In a nutshell, it's the same deal as the normal film-the-police campaign, except rather than just doing so when it happens to come near you, there will be anonymous, hidden, impromptu patrol-networks formed by occupy specifically to seek these situations out and expose them.

Hope this post will be better than the one before.



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[-] 1 points by kaiserw (211) 11 years ago

Agreed, Film it! But don't put yourself in danger!!!! Try to stay unseen by the jackboots.

There was a good site that tracks police abuse: www.injusticeeverywhere.com, that I've followed for several years. The guy who was running it was unable to keep it up, so he turned it over to another organization. The old link still works, but it goes here: http://www.policemisconduct.net/ where you can submit events.

It's now run by CATO. I know there's alot of people who don't care for their organization, but they've done a good job keeping things going, so set your bias aside, and be glad somebody is doing this important work.

They've also produced some great videos in conjunction with the FlexYourRights.org, and it is MUST WATCH: 10 Rules for Dealing with Police - http://www.cato.org/events/100212screening.html

[-] 2 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 11 years ago

If CATO is against police brutality and does something real about it they have to be thanked if only for that.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

If possible, bring better cameras along.........:)

Proof, is sometimes in the details.


[-] 1 points by kaiserw (211) 11 years ago

Maybe some are, but the fact of the matter is, Law enforcement has grown very sick:

LE has become militarized - LE or many in it have acquired all this military hardware, uniforms, etc, and they have become to take on the military mindset. The military uses tactics that are aggressive and highly violent, because that's how you succeed in combat. LE should be peace officers - diffuse situations, avoid arresting people, use minimum force necessary to keep the peace.

LE has no accountability. There are no watchers that watch the watchers, they are the same people, or are incentivized to cover things up. Result: rampant corruption, and illegal acts become endemic.

The fact is LE murders over 300 innocent people a year, maim and injure countless others. It's a cancer, and it's getting worse.



[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 11 years ago

You can thank the Anarchists, Blak Blocs, and other Agent Provocateurs who went crazy on camera, in Seattle, during the WTO protests, giving PDs across the nation, training videos. False perceptions.

Carry LOTS and LOTS of American Flags and be very very very POLITE!!!

[-] 1 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 11 years ago

Police have gone batshit crazy against political protests forever.



[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 11 years ago

They don't need encouragement. Flags and manners!

[-] -1 points by SteveKJR (-497) 11 years ago

Maybe the reason for police brutallity is because we live in a more violent society? Think that could be the problem?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Says the guy who would arm everyone.





Welcome to Steve's insanity.

You must really hate Wyatt Earp.

[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 11 years ago

Ever watch cops - that my freind is everyday police officers dealing with everyday people - No wonder they have been trained to have their hand on their pistol when they approache a vehicle for a traffic stop.

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

I don't watch TV much, and I've never seen cops.

I have however seen real cops do some nasty things to people for nothing.

[-] 0 points by SteveKJR (-497) 11 years ago

Well, it's an enlightening program that shows you what our society is really about when it comes to police dealing with society.

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Such shows are selectively edited, and not a representative cross section.

Do they help sell guns?

More than likely.


[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

And of course the show is not at all biased. I am sure they show everything that normally goes down. Ummm scripted edited reality TV at best. Yes no doubt the police run into some real scumbags - but some police are real scumbags too.

[-] -1 points by SteveKJR (-497) 11 years ago

I don't disagree with you about some police being scumbags. But the truth is we live in a violent society - if we didn't we wouldn't have to lock our doors.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

Yeah lack of a living wage and employment will have a tendency to make for a desperate sick and violent society. Huh. Who woulda guessed?

[-] -1 points by SteveKJR (-497) 11 years ago

Living wage has nothing to do with it - it's lack of morals, lack of education, lack of self respect and lack of respect towards others.

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

We've never had a living wage, so of course it has nothing to do with it.

We would have to try it to find out.