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Forum Post: Polarizing Romney Presidency not surprising, Global Power Shift, rise of Consumer Class, and Romney Socialism Predicted

Posted 5 years ago on Oct. 4, 2012, 6:16 a.m. EST by Middleaged (5140)
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Here are my predictions of what would happen in Romeny Presidency (No surprises really):

A) Tax Holiday for Off-Shore Profits.
B) More Oil and Natural Gas Subsidies, More Federal lands given to Energy Developement, More Fracking, Good Profits in the Energy Corporations. Easing of restrictions on Coal.
C) No change in US Policy on China or Global Imports & Exports.
D) Romney might try to help some older US Industry that has been on hard times, like Rail Roads, Steel, High Tech Manufacturing, communications, satelites.
E) Military Spending Increase eventhough we need it like a hole in the head (This was a Ronald Reagan Tenet and Reagan wanted to increase the US GDP by leveraging DOD spending).
F) US will be clear world military leader for the next 4 years only since China has developed technology to shoot down satelites, cut off our communications, penetrate our shores, and move into space.
G) Financial Integrity of Pensioners, Depenents, and the Middle Class will continue to be undercut and sabatoged by a newly established "US Business Class" who also "Run" the economy, the federal government, and the Consumer Class. H) The US Consumer Class will live a life further complicated by contracts, long term obligations, and debt.
I) The US Middle Class will no longer recognize or relate to itself as a class below wealthy. Most US people will consider themselves part of the Consumer Class, will have taken business and financial classes of some sort, rising number of family homes will have multiple generations or renter/boarders, more elderly will be dependent on working consumer class families.
J) China will increase economic power, use of resources, and military power, resulting in further US investment in Asia and military build up. This also means bigger embassies in Asia and larger US State Department.
K) US Federal Budget is already so large and muddled up, the onlly thing more confusing is US Foriegn Policy and US Military Policy.
L) In view of Huge US Federal Budget without focus, the Federal government will eclipse not only all US State Governments, but also all US Corporations. The inefficiencies of the Federal government will begin to show itself in systemic and regulatory failures each year actually getting dangerous within 10 years or so. US Federal Funding will become famous for disappearing.
M) US Systemic complexity in broad terms will be out of control. The federal government is involved in 10,000s of different functions and 10,000s of different systems. Eventually US State systems will become subservient to and give over responsibility to Federal Systems to prevent future crashes and conflicts.
N) If Mitt Romney is Elected to a first and second term as US President he will be forced to oversee nationalization (socialism) of State Systems of some sort... be they maritime, transportation, warehouse, food, energy, water, financial, pensions, medicaid, worker compensation, state credit or debt, bancrupcy, medical, hospital, health, municipal bonds, municpal funding, state eduation, or state universities, farming, agriculture, etc.
O) Sure the US will nationalize (Socialism) more complex systems especially as they relate to security, but they could be contracted out to corporations like AT&T, banks, credit agencies, or whatever.

So in the End President Mitt Romney will become Known as one of the biggest Socialist Presidents in the US History. He has no choice as the world progresses and as trends continue forward.


ROMNEY has worked at the top level, but he misses somethings that everyday people that have small budgets have to deal with. Most people when they are elderly won't be able to buy private health care. But Romeny also probably doesn't know how systems fit together, how computer talk, how vulverable municipalities are, how state governments can't create money or profit, how everyone does their own thing in their own world in a separate hierarchy, and how China and other world governments are impossible to control.

Of course most politicians refuse or never learned any lessons from the biggest events of US History. What can we conclude based on the many Crisis our government has created since we went to Vietnam??

A) Vietnam War corrupted the land in Cambodia, Thailand, and Vietnam and destroyed countless lives. And we got nothing for it.
B) Watergate, Presidential Corruption, Spying on political opponents, Misuse of the CIA for Politican gain, resulting in congressional oversight of the CIA. And we got nothing for it.
C) Savings and Loan Scandal, 1000 people prosecuted, banks put into receiverships to dispose of their assets, corruption arose out of lax regulation and oversight in banking. And we got nothing for it.
D) Keating Five Scandal, 5 congressmen attempted to cover up crime of financier Keating. And we got nothing for it.
E) President Ronald Reagan was the first of Republican presidents to run huge deficit spending, first time US deficit was over $1 Trillion dollars. And we got nothing for it.
F) President G. W. Bush took a balanced budget from Bill Clinton and left office with a total US Deficit over $10 trillion dollars. And we got nothing for it.
G) We went to war in Iraq. Untold human misery, billions of dollars missing, employed mercenarys, employed torture. And we got nothing for it.
H) We went to war in Afghanistan knowing it was Guerilla fighting, knowing the Russians had not succeeded, knowing the Russians budget finally colapsed, we continued the war for 10 years employing the most expensive logistics the world has ever seen. And we got nothing for it.
I) Actually we have Military bases and stations left over from WWII and the Korean Conflict. And we got nothing for it.
J) Actually we haven't declared War since WWII eventhough our constitution requires this and intended this, at least 6 un-declared US Wars since WWII. And we got nothing for it.
K) And we haven't passed a US Federal Budget through a normal federal budget process for over what 1500 days?? And we got nothing for it.
L) Last I heard US Investors lost $2 Trillion dollars in the last Financial Crisis, the crisis was caused by deregulation, repeal of Glass-Steagal Act, Regulation Capture, Revolving Door between government and industry, gross negligence of the Federal Reserve, and gross negligence of the US Treasury, and abdication of Federal Regulatory Bodies and political influence in the department of Justic and possibly in the FBI, there is currently $600 Trillion dollars of financial derivitives creating huge systemic risk in global financial markets, the Federal Reserve has lent out $16 Trillion of US Dollars to fix global banks, EU Economy is still reeling, the US is going into QE3, and there is no change in direction from the Federal Government and the Federal Budget since at least 1998. And we got nothing for it.
M) US DOD Budget, Medicare, Social Security are all huge budgets of $700 Billion or more. We can't cut SS, but we could try to control costs of the other two huge systems. Last check the US Federal Budget was about $2.5 Trillion Dollars a year.
N) In general there is no discipline in keeping federal budget Line Items from growing. The powers at the top are increasing each budget line item by 25% every year (except for Job Training).
O) Mitt Romney is taking over an Economy that has been stimulated by the Federal government Spending Increases of 25% each year since 1998.
P) The conclusion is the US is stimulating it's economy through government spending and war spending and military spending since Ronald Reagan, 1981.

A Romney Economy WILL BE based on Deregulation, 40 year old Neoliberal policies, Resource Production, Capitalism, Military Spending, 60 Year Old Foriegn Policy, 40 Year old Military Strategy, NO Domestic Policy at all, and NO Long Term Strategic Plan for the US .........other than bring down wages, ...reduce union power, ...reduce safety requirement, ...reduce environmental requirements, ...keep borders open to bring in low wage workers, ...protect your buddies that help finance the government and investment, ...keep relationships with regulators in good standing, ...keep our guys in the Treasury, Federal Reserve Positions, FDIC, FSOC (Financial Stability Oversight Counsel), and SEC, ...Keep investigative reporting away from our offices, ...Don't answer questions from smart guys, ...Don't give details in any speach or press conference, ...don't count the number of dead enemy or civilian or allies, ...We control the narrative and we say what is true and what is not True, ...



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[-] 2 points by Underdog (2971) from Clermont, FL 5 years ago

That post is nothing short of astonishing. Beyond great job of laying out the reality. If you came up with all of that yourself I am extremely impressed.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

Thanks. I appreciate your support. I started with a few ideas, then it changed and I was trying to draw from other creative sources. I'm sort of used to keeping night hours, so maybe nite time is my most creative at this point. Yes, that was all me in that.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago


Financial Schemes are over populated and still multiplying. Systems are becoming more complex and still multiplying. Foreign Countries are becoming more independent and wealthier. There are more players and financial players on the playing field. You can't play against everyone and always come out on top, but I am very impressed with the ability of the US to do this so well in the Americas and the Middle East and in Europe. I really wish I knew the secret to the US Success. But the POINT is the the US is becoming very complex on the inside (systems) and the world is also becoming more complex each day. It is just too much to avoid more socialism even if we contract out more national functions (is that fascism???!!!)

Well, whether you call it fascism or socialism - IT IS PROBABLY the only REAL Long Range Strategic Plan that either Romney or Obama has for the USA. Ask yourself what is the US if it takes over the world, controls the world militarily, controls the world economically, controls the world financially, ... or if US corporations control the world Financially OR control and perform parts of the US Federal Government. What do you call that? Is it Fascism, Plutacracy, Kleptocracy, Socialsim, Is it pure corporatism, Is it pure Capitalism? We know there is no pure capitalism (we have a mixed economy). We are AFRAID TO CALL IT FASCISM, so looks like we call it Socialism.

Maybe I am afraid to say things would be simpler with lower wages. Lower wages looks better on projections for the US Economy. That is why I think LOWER WAGES were always part of the Long Term Plan for the USA. But I have to say simple is better. Just like your Federal Taxes. We all would like our federal taxes to be simple. Streamlined, if you will. In the same sense we need to Simplify the USA and all the Financial Schemes. No one can understand the whole US Federal Tax code. And No one can understand the public value in Public Private Partnerships (there is a winner and a loser and it is probably not you). How do you feel about corporate control over your life. Is life pretty much unknowable when you look at financial schemes? They are meant to be advantageous for the one who creates the scheme. Profit. Bonus. Differed Wages placed in a Trust. Profits placed in Retirement Trust. You got yours? No. A little complicated isn't it?

[-] 2 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

I think it's called promoting American values. I don't know what those values are but they're promoting it.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

1) American Exceptionalism 2) An American Century 3) Responsibilities of a Superpower 4) Fight Against Communism 5) Fight Against Socialism 6) Fight Against anyone that Opposes Our Goals of Hegemony

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

Long story, with a short answer;

He's not getting in.

Just the token challenger.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

Thanks. Then I guess Obama will ignore the trend for the next 4 years. I don't see him as a hands on guy at all. Romeny could be dangerous, but not sure Obama would be dangerous. The only threat from Obama might be that gun control would come back. And of course no fixes for the Economy from what I can see.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

Fascism is where the country has been for over a decade.

He who rides the whitehouse bus makes no never mind.

Do you honestly believe that Mittens would escalate or deflate any real problems, if there was a change in captain of the ship?

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

No. I wanted to write some kind of prediction, but sort of got carried away. I guess there is a couple of things disorganzied in all of that.

BTW why do you say the fix is in on this? Do you have Bilderberger contacts, or Alex Jones. I remember Alex Jones came out and said the Governor from Texas was teh Anointed one for this elections, but like you he said Obama was also in cahoots.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

I think if we study trends, then it is pretty obvious that Romney was going to win, and that Obama was always going to beat Romeny. At least thats what Ive seen since about Christmas.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

You might be right. I think we agree on both your trends. I haven't really studied trends in politics and probably don't know the methodology. I suppose I am just an observer and sometimes have feelings based on what I know about government and people. I'm not even good at keeping up on the news if I get away from the computer. Not that much really changes each day.

I was surprised that Romney got a free pass from Ron Paul on the debates. I think the debates are a time of power plays. A bunch of money is spent on the best campaign for each. Then each candidate checks with his big money, big power backers to see if they support him... Then they end up comparing dick sizes with other candidates like Romney (pardon the pun). And a smart strategy is to talk your opponent into agreeing to a couple of logical things that will expose him to your strategy, show him his own weakness, and make the opponet conceed that he will lose, or make him think he is not the best man...

Romney has always come accross as over confident. But maybe that is what works. Maybe that is what they are trying for. Maybe there is no chance in a Presdential election unless you come across as confident as Ronald Reagan or maybe like Bill Clinton. Of course you have to do some good work getting ready for the election...

Personally I still see a weakness in Romney. Even if Obama is still maturing, Romeny has lost a lot of normal people from Main Street because he is just not a common man. He is just has never talked enough with people that have to pay bills. So he comes off as a flip flopper who is Righteous or Arrogant.

So I guess we agree on both of your trends.

[-] -1 points by yobstreet (-575) 5 years ago

Worse than that... it also means we'd have to endure another four years of the Triumvirate - Pelosi and Reid just make me want to puke.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

Yes. I wish congress would get out of the way. But I wish they would start controlling war spending with declarations of war, responsibility for war, and for working on the budget, digging into budget tradeoffs, and actually passing a budget.

[-] 0 points by yobstreet (-575) 5 years ago

Yea I agree.