Forum Post: PLEASE COMPLETE THIS SENTENCE: You know you're dealing with a paid or unpaid troll when...
Posted 11 years ago on Dec. 13, 2012, 1 a.m. EST by therising
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. . . they begin a post or comment claiming that Occupy needs to focus ONLY on going after politicians rather than corporations.
Please enter comments with your own completion of the sentence.....
.... You know you're dealing with a paid or unpaid troll when... :)
...when you realize this person thinks its okay that 1 in 7 Americans are on food stamps, that one-half of Americans earn less than $26,000 per year, that 49 million have no health insurance, that wages are at an all time low while corporate profits are at an all time high, that labor is valued unfairly and inhumanely, that the U.S. drops drones on innocent people, that our government is bought and paid for by the wealthy and corporations, that fear-mongering instead of love is the way to go, etc.
Bravo - well said - very well said - TWINKLE
Awesome :)
. . . they call you an asshole, and then, when you point out the failings of their argument, they complain you're engaging in ad hominem.
Exactly :)
. . . when everything they blame on you or progressivism is a projection of conservative crimes and/or self destructive fatal flaws of con character.
when they use name calling and personal attacks
when they respond to facts with generalized attacks
when they make complaints without any solutions
when they seem to be persuing impossible goals
such as ending the Fed in stead of real goals such as G-S
they divert attention from the ONE attainable goal that is at the heart
of virtually everything - capitalism owns our democracy
Right on. Great list.
when they dedicate their time to accusing you of being a "right wing wacko" or a "wacko liberal" for speaking out against war and the banks.
Yeah, they don't like attacks on war and banks. Funny how those two are related.
Often directly.
Yup :). The award-winning film "Why We Fight" (which you may have already seen) does an incredible job laying that out.
. . . . when you get a PM like this :
nidlaxto said 5 minutes ago at Dec. 13, 2012, 12:23 p.m. EST (delete)
Unions are hosed and it is time for you lib losers to move on.
One proper response may be :
DKAtoday said 4 minutes ago at Dec. 13, 2012, 12:24 p.m. EST (delete)
aAHHH HAHAhahahahahahahahaheehehehehehoooo
I have this saying, it is:
"THERE IS NO TROLLING IN POLITICS"
In a realm where telling people that "corporations are people", telling women how to discern whether their rape was "legitimate", or even ...honestly, that there is a possibility that a perfectly sane, reasonable, and law abiding gun owner should have less overall rights to have that gun because of the gun wielders that don't exhibit that same set of fine qualities they do [...which I've been guilty of doing for the last 24 hours], what is trolling and what is politics?
...there is no trolling in politics.
....when they can't accept Occupy for what it is. They say Occupy should do this-do that. Blah, blah.
Oh yeah. Pretty common.
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I guess some guys like kissing ass so much they don't even have to get paid. LOL
They leave about 100 replies to comments that werent aimed at them.
They tell you that you are a Republican because you think the Democrats are liars.
They tell you your city is a "Tampon" and then insult the handful of us that tried like hell to get as many to the rallies as humanely possible, even spending a nice chunk of the pathetic amount of money we make.
They refuse to accept that Occupy is a broad based group of youths whose main gripe is "The shit is fucked up". v
They loved you when you were bashing and protesting Bush, and now hate you when you do the same about Obama.
When you acknowledge the numbers are way down and the reasons need to be addressed, you are attacked.
They assume that because you think the SEC and FCC are doing a pathetic job, it means you want them eliminated.
The list goes on and on..... Dems trolling Republican sites, Republicans trolling Dem sites, and then Occupy trying to cut through all the bullshit and get some real change.
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you can't "go after a corporation" but a politician can
why would a politician care what you have to say, if you never talk to them
corporations work for money
politicians work for us, our will is expressed through the ballot box
if we lay off the politicians, they will surly lay off the corporations, after all why piss people off when there's nothing in it for you? politicians seem to think that way anyway
and damn I wish somebody would pay me to do this
I agree about going after both politicians and corporations nonviolently with direct action etc. what I disagree with is limiting our attention to that and taking the heat off the real culprits (corporations and the 1%). For example, I definitely think we should take the following nonviolent action in DC to pressure politicians to create guardrails for corporations: http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/you-may-have-seen-this-list-of-8-practical-goals-b/ and I'd like to see us push from tnside and out just as those who fought in the civil rights movement would.
they ask for money like a Nigerian con artist.
Haven't seen that on here yet :)
http://occupywallst.org/forum/lobby-group-for-the-poor/
The old standbys are: Pettifogging/exaggeration: (General witch hunting from Clinton to Benghazi) "Clinton was totally dishonest and the worst POTUS ever because he lied about getting a blowjob in the WH!" And Recrimination/projection: "Obama is putting us in debt, losing our jobs, and ruining the economy!" These most often bleed into each other.
Asking a really dumb question that is obviously leading to an equally dumb "point." "So, why do you think I should have to pay for Janeane Garofalo's Vaginal Damns? Hah?"
False equivalency. "Cons and Dems are the same." Obama is just like Bush." "Blackwater -- Solyndra."
Feigning progressive/liberal and advocating a strict avoidance of any real political solution ~ like getting/keeping/kicking Norquist-treasonous, 1%-worshiping, government-saboteuring RepubliCons out of office!!
So many more, never ceasing to amaze with utter speciousness and/or ignorance.
Yup. You got 'em.
ACORN did it!!
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http://sfpublicpress.org/news/2010-06/homebuilder-lennar-uses-federal-taxpayer-funds-to-balance-its-books
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-09-28/lennar-names-morgan-stanley-veteran-mantz-rialto-s-president.html
To the extent you seek to deny the corruption of this Congress, you ARE the troll.
So, since I don't deny that many congress people in this congress are corrupted by outside corporate influence, under your definition, I'm a genuine participant. Thanks.
What these links indicate is a circle of corruption in which the Dems are directly involved.
I think you're inadvertently doing something a paid or unpaid troll would do (change the subject to Dem vs. Rep.). You're ignoring the point that we agree corporations have gone after members of both parties. The corporatists who have temporarily hijacked our great republic are a vicious bunch. Luckily we, the 99% actually hold the power :)
At this point in time - YES - We have not been shut out - and we are making moves to reclaim the application of power to reclaim government and restore it to proper function/focus/purpose/action.
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Yup
With Article V we can control all the offices AND remove corporate personhood. There is no other procedure with enough authority. Posted w/iPhone.
Chicken & egg. We care about the office and how it observes our rights by NOT allowing corporations to violate laws & conspire. It's the office not the politician. Posted w/iPhone.
their sceen name is VQkag2. or DKAtoday, or shooz, or shadz, or therising, or beautifulworld, or bensdad, or GirlFriday.
That's funny. Well, glad to be among such good company in your book. You must be felling hopeless to accuse good hearted people of being trolls. If you're felling hopeless, stop over here. It might help boost your spirits: http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/a-message-to-all-the-well-meaning-democrats-and-re/
"felling hopeless"? please explain.
So says the sock puppet.
Ah...........still hiding? Telling.
Didja write another check your ass can't cash?
snicker
Bring it on, darlin'. I'm right here.