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Forum Post: Paul Ryan

Posted 2 years ago on May 16, 2012, 8:49 a.m. EST by Kevinkyle (20)
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Tell me you can't see a liar when he sticks his face right in front of yours? Come on this little man (Puke Ryan) will be the first to purchase a slave when it becomes legal again. He's Blackie from "Of Mice and Men! Wake up, we have watched TV half our lives and developed instincts, time to use them for GOODNESS SAKE!

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[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

Paul Ryan Lies About Spending in Obama Budget By: David Dayen Paul Ryan said earlier today on Morning Joe that Madison is like Cairo. He did this in the midst of a defense of Governor Scott Walker, who is the Hosni Mubarak of that scenario. So needless to say, the guy isn’t entirely bright, though he has an undeserved reputation for smarts in Washington.

Here’s another example: Ryan’s extremely dishonest claim about new spending in the Obama 2012 budget.

“What we have is $1.6 trillion in new tax increases, $8.7 trillion in new spending. He’s going to be adding $13 trillion to the debt over the course of his budget.”

The statement above by Rep. Paul Ryan, made on NPR’s “All Things Considered,” was echoed across the media landscape on Monday and Tuesday by other Republicans. The White House claimed that its budget relied on two-thirds spending freezes and cuts and one-third tax increases to achieve $1 trillion in deficit reduction over 10 years. But here is the House Budget Committee chairman claiming that the budget has a ratio of spending increases to tax cuts of eight to one [...]

Ryan adds together 10 years of budgets to come up with his figures. The House Budget Committee produced its own analysis of the president’s budget Tuesday, which explains how the tax increase figure (see figure 8) and the debt increase number (see table 1) were derived. The tax increases stem mostly from Obama’s well-advertised desire to roll back Bush tax cuts for people making over $250,000. Note that the debt increase is from 2010, which is actually over 12 years, not the 10-year budget submitted by the president, so Ryan overstates that a bit.

The problematic figure in Ryan’s statement is the claim that the president proposed $8.7 trillion in new spending. In response to a question about how this number was obtained, the committee staff provided a chart that showed that outlays would be frozen every year for the next 10 years at the 2012 level of $3.729 trillion.

Thus, while in 2021 Obama proposes to spend $5.697 trillion, the committee would still be spending $3.729 trillion, for a difference of almost $2 trillion. Add up the difference for every year, over 10 years, and it amounts to nearly $8.7 trillion, which the committee calls “new spending.”

In other words, the committee assumed the president needs to freeze all spending, without adjustments for inflation or population growth, for 10 years. Moreover, it makes this assumption for all spending, even mandatory programs such as Social Security and Medicare, which need to be changed by law. Much of the president’s budget dealt with discretionary spending — he pledged to freeze nondefense discretionary spending for five years — but that is only about one-third of the total budget.

Paul Ryan is a bullshit artist who talks very fast and mesmerizes unthinking Washington journalists. I’m glad to say Glenn Kessler isn’t one of them, but instead of the “two Pinocchios” at the end of the story, he could simply call Paul Ryan a liar and leave it at that.

Ryan, of course, is dedicated to using these made-up numbers to destroy Medicare and Medicaid. He’ll throw around figures like “$43 trillion in unfunded liabilities” when he does this, without saying that he’s using an infinite timeline. He’ll sound very serious and forget to mention that he wants to ratchet down, like a one-man death panel, the amount of health care seniors can access over time.

He wants seniors to pay more for health care. That’s really the entire plan. And if you can’t afford it, tough.

[-] 1 points by Spade2 (478) 2 years ago

Wait, who is Blackie? I don't remember that character. Is there another version of "Of Mice and Men" than the John Steinbeck version?

[-] 0 points by Pequod (17) 2 years ago

I bet the OP has student loans and with that, comes out horribly educated. Blackie? Who the fuck is Blackie?

Have fun paying off your student loans, dumb ass kevynkle.

[-] 1 points by francismjenkins (3713) 2 years ago

Dude, why are you angry all the time? Don't you know, it's a very unhealthy state of mind. In the end you get high blood pressure and little to show for it. I know doctors who took out student loans, and they're doing just fine. I know engineers, mathematicians, etc., who took out student loans, and they're doing just fine. I mean, if you want to spend your life as the angry conservative, it's your prerogative I suppose, but it seems like a poor life philosophy. Sure, you can maybe be a little happy with a huddling with the tribe sort of life, but it's much less satisfying than seeking solidarity with all people (you should really give it a try).

[-] 1 points by Pequod (17) 2 years ago

Why would i want to tribe with dishonest people like you? Paul Ryan tells mathematically provable truths, but gets called liar? JPMorgan loses $2 billion of rich peoples ,oney, but you defend college professors and their exorbitant salaries whicj have raised college education by 450%.

I would want to be with a lar such as yourself.

[-] 3 points by francismjenkins (3713) 2 years ago

I don't want to "tribe" with anyone .... I view tribalism as a vestige of our primitive past, but where I come from, we don't call people a liar without enumerating specific instances where that person has in fact lied (this is a matter of simple decency and integrity).

[-] 1 points by Spade2 (478) 2 years ago

I don't have student loan as I'm still in high school and just studied this book this year but I just don't recall that character. It was last semester so maybe I forgot.

[-] 1 points by Pequod (17) 2 years ago

There is no Blackie.

[-] 1 points by Spade2 (478) 2 years ago

Well I am very confused, so I'm just gonna shut up now.

[-] 1 points by JPB950 (2254) 2 years ago

You base your entire judgement on a lifetime of being manipulated by Hollywood writers? If true I would suggest that your decision making skills need some work. At least post some things he has said that you consider a lie.

[-] 0 points by Kevinkyle (20) 2 years ago

At least post some things he has said that you consider a lie? Here's a good example: "I".

[-] 0 points by JPB950 (2254) 2 years ago

Interesting, I suppose if I was using the logic of television writers that would make you a Paul Ryan supporter. Trying to make it seem like there is no real evidence of any lies.

[-] -3 points by occuman (-21) 2 years ago

and your assertions are backed up by what exactly?

[-] 2 points by Kevinkyle (20) 2 years ago

"Me"! Someone who will stand strong while you hide under your bed!

[-] -3 points by occuman (-21) 2 years ago

hahahaha! genius - verified by an emotional diatribe lol!

[-] 2 points by Kevinkyle (20) 2 years ago

Emotional diatribe? Oops, there it is, you’re inclined to follow emotion not level-headedness. Isn’t it time for your Lucy re-runs?

[-] -1 points by Pequod (17) 2 years ago

Ryan might be the only honest man in Washington. Because you dont lke the message, you declare him a liar but you cant articulate one lie he has told.

The word for you that omes to mnd is "LOSER"

btw, your OP= EPIC FAIL!!!