Forum Post: Party of the People
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 13, 2011, 10 a.m. EST by bgramel
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Party of the People
Website: https://sourceforge.net/p/thepeople/home/Home/
Would you like your opinion to matter?
Party of the People is a way for your voice to be heard. The United States prides itself on spreading Democracy to the world, but we've never been a Democracy since our founding. Its time for your vote to represent your views.
When the U.S. Constitution was written, it was impossible to have a true Democracy because of limitations in communications. In the past 200 years, we've seen monumental changes in communication from the telephone to the television to the internet. Its now possible to discuss politics with people around the world instantaneously.
How do we get those in power to vote themselves out?
When you hear candidates say, "I believe in __," it's tough to know who you can trust. Luckily for them, campaign promises are not legally binding. Party of the People's beginning will be as an exclusive political party. To be one of our candidates, you have to sign a legal contract agreeing to vote as your constituents decide through Party of the People's web-based application.
Policies not Politicians
When was the last time you watched politics and actually saw a policy's pros and cons being discussed? Turn on the TV to your favorite news station and see how long it takes. The news is consumed with political campaigns and scandals. When the drama of candidates and the posturing of political parties go away, we'll finally have time to discuss solutions to our problems.
Party of the People is a way to vote yourself into power. It's a political party and a web-based application being built, owned, and controlled by the people for the people to provide the structure needed for a true democracy.
To learn more, go to the website: https://sourceforge.net/p/thepeople/home/Home/
No thanks. Too many barbarian hordes who want to vote themselves into power.
So you think "barbarian hordes" are the majority? Everyone has interests. You do as do I as do politicians and corporations. We can only do what's best for everyone if everyone has a vote.
No, they are most definitely NOT the majority, but they sure would like to be. And everyone does have a vote already.
You have a vote for a politician. Have you ever met anyone that would answer every question the same as you? Everyone has their own interests at heart. A politician naturally has to consider their opinion, their constituents' opinions, as well as their career.
right, so a politician is ACCOUNTABLE and TRANSPARENT and can be VOTED OUT quickly and efficiently. A bunch of hatemongers seizing power by decentralizing the populace and depriving them of the recourse of representation, then fixing the voting system, flooding it with initiatives/referenda that strips others of their rights, means eventually that the bullies take over. There's a reason it hasn't been done. The way to change bad representational government is to vote the bad representatives out.
Well, if you believe you have control over your representation, then I'm happy for you. In my lifetime, I've voted on hundreds of politicians, and I've yet to met someone I agree with. Its choice A or B, and I'm choice C. How do I judge one over the other? I've heard politicians say that they agree with me on issues as they campaign, but then no legislation is passed to that point. So, I elected someone else, and no legislation is passed again. And so on, and so on. If you look around, there's a lot of us middle-age people out there that have grown so used to voting for the least offensive politician that as long as a politician doesn't break something, we're fine reelecting them even though they don't do anything worthy of praise either.
As far as fixing the system, there's accusations that its occurring today with a privatized voting system. The ballot box of this system could be designed to allow a much better trust level than you see today. Flooding is also something that can be controlled by limiting the amount of legislation than any one voter can propose.
There's no perfect system. Eliminating elected representatives causes more problems that it eliminates in the end. Eventually, the ruthless take over and leave behind no efficient system for getting them out. With a representative system, there are layers, competing options and they provide a focal point of accountability when it's time to get them out. In mob rule, it's simply might-makes-right and no recourse for those victimized by it. As for voting machine corruption, that is a possibility in any system. Probably more so in a system without representatives, since that means fewer people who can legally regulate the machines if there is fraud. In mob rule, if they rig the machines to their favor and the victimized don't like it, there's no one representing them to counteract it with any authority.
I keep standing by my computer, holding my hands out with my fingers dangling down, and no one pays attention....:(
More childish ideas from the Zuccotti Park Whiners
What do you find "childish" about using the current political system to make changes?