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Forum Post: Partisan Hacks Have Destroyed the Nation

Posted 6 years ago on Feb. 22, 2012, 8:04 p.m. EST by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL
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The vast majority of campaign funds, in big elections, go to TV spots.

The reason is the public is easily manipulated through the TV. its their lone source and belief, usually.

The establisment realizes what every other power has- that keeping the people divided guarantees that they dont unite to overturn the establisment.

With the TV here in almost EVERY room in almost EVERY house, its guaranteed mind control.

Just look at the partisan hacks, here, on the occupy site, which is suppose to be above it. Its not. Nothing is. The media runs this fuckin country.



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[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 6 years ago

you complain about "partisan hacks" dividing America -
putting all advocates in one pot -
Democrats and Rs do the same thing.
Well - we don't do the same thing

The Democrats support people
The Rs support the corporations and the rich [ and the sexually repressed ]

You complain about TV and believe it is mind control
Mind control is started at birth by religions that brainwash children -
..."my way is the only way to heaven" "my book is the only book"
..."obey authority because we know better" "don't reason or think"

You complain about corporate & media money -
...........................WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT?

[-] 2 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 6 years ago

sorry, dog. my partisanship did not come from Television. It came from majoring in Political science and seeing the long term trends for each party. What, you going to blame college as another mind bending institution? Just get over it, until you come up with a plan that is better than voting for Democrats, you're just pissing in the wind. Now, because I believe America is one big opportunistic coke whore, I choose not to apply myself one hundred percent when it comes to a career. I believe that is the best way to stick it to the evil empire, but I'm still rallying for democrats, come next November. I got to make sure the peons get what is expropriated from the gov't coffers, 'cause if we don't get it the fascists will. And that is the reality that you don't want to, or can't, see. America is in a death spiral and getting mad ain't going to change something that, imo, is two hundred years in the making.

[-] 1 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 6 years ago

This web site is full of Occupiers who spend all day demonizing Republicans. That's not how you transcend politics to focus on unifying common ground.

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 6 years ago

If it is any consolation, when I make fun of republicans I'm making fun of the politicians and not the constituency. Who can blame the constituency, they just happened to be taken in by people smarter than them. That happens a lot in life and I don't harp on the victims of mental sodomization. The Republican party has had a greater hand in the destruction of this nation, and until the republican constituency is willing to admit this, they can stay in the republican party for all i care. Now, I am seenig this from a working class perspective. Everyone i come across, I am sure to tell them that the Reagan revolution was when the affluent class and the middle class threw the working class under the bus. Fast forward thirty years and now the affluent class is affording the middle class the same luxury they afforded the working class. I guess the middle class should not have sold their soul to the devil for a little more affluency. And the political party most responsible for the Reagan revolution is the republican brand. So in closing, when I make fun of a republican I'm clowning the politician and feeling remorse for their constituency. sorry this hurts your feelings, but this is the way I see it.

[-] 1 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 6 years ago

You, sir, are failing to transcend. It doesn't matter how you see it. What matters is your ability to look past your own prejudices and seek common ground with people who don't see things exactly the same way that you do. Occupiers are generally very poor at that. Which means that all of the talk about representing the 99% is just empty rhetoric, because Occupy really only represents the left.

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 6 years ago

First off, I got my view from doing research, and I'd suggest you do the same. The worst thing that gubber, reagan, did for the american people was get rid of unions. Now, the republican party is getting rid of you, the middle class. sucks, doesn't it? I cring and cry when ever I hear Conservatives hale that brain dead, over rated actor. Fuck Reagan and fuck those that believe he is the shit. He got us hear and his party is the one taking us further down the free market rabbit hole. And this is an opinion I've gained from doing substantial research, again, i suggest you do the same, and stop defending oligarchic domination, which is the Republicans to a greater extent, and the democrats to a lessor extent. the truth hurts, deal with it.

[-] 1 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 6 years ago

I could talk about how Obama has betrayed the left in all kinds of ways. I could make fun of Democrats who idolize FDR and want to run further and further down 'the collectivist rabbit hole'. But that kind of talk isn't unifying. That's what I'm trying to point out here. If Occupy wants to unify the 99% toward a common goal of getting the money out of politics, which is something that many on the left and the right can agree on, then people need to stop thinking in such partisan terms. The way to transcend the left/right dichotomy is to seek common ground, not to focus on wedge issues.

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 6 years ago

You know, to a small degree I agree with you. and I'm in a shitty mood right now so I'm venting. I apologize for my language and finger pointing.

I think a good way we could get on the same page is if we work towards making Super PACs more transparent. The biggest problem I have with the funding of elections is that when I go research who donated to which SUper PaC, i'm never able to find out where that financing came from. If we make transparency in elections a rallying point, i believe we could begin working towards solutions. I feel as though "get money out of politics" is too vague. elections have to be paid for and tax payers are already too strapped to take on the burden of financing them their selves, but if we can make all elections transparent, then I believe the electoral process is more able to serve more of the people then it is serving now. just a thought...

[-] 1 points by XenuLives (1645) from Charlotte, NC 6 years ago

This is one of the reasons why I no longer watch TV.

[-] 0 points by Chugwunka (89) from Willows, CA 6 years ago

You have an uncanny grasp of the obvious. Your point?

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 6 years ago

That this obviously isnt obvious to most on here, when you look at their attacking behavior.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 6 years ago

Ever the victim.

[-] 0 points by Chugwunka (89) from Willows, CA 6 years ago

So they will only be informed if they listen to you? Or if not, by whom?