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Forum Post: Paradism

Posted 8 years ago on Nov. 5, 2011, 2:58 a.m. EST by rajarood (67)
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Paradism is a political system that is similar to communism but has no "proletariat." In a paradist system, robots, nanobots and computers take the place of the proletariat or workforce.

Paradism is based on new technologies, such as robotics, genetic engineering and nanotechnologies.

All production, tools, services and resources that can be efficient without even one human involved can be nationalized.

The nationalization of all production, services and tools provided by robots renders money obsolete since these products, services and tools can now be free.

Communism failed because the very existence of a proletariat created inefficiencies. Without the motivation of financial gain, the population had no incentive to work hard or to come up with creative solutions. Automated production eliminates this problem because computers and robots can be programmed for 100 percent efficiency. In addition, they can be more productive and active than human beings since they do not need rest, sleep or time off for holidays.

Paradist nationalization includes all land and housing, with the exception of family homes.

In a paradist system, elected politicians work only because they are devoted to humanity. They have no financial advantage or powers.

Paradism must first be accepted democratically by a population that understands the advantage of a world without money, where everything is available to every person free of charge. For example, robots already produce cars worldwide with very few humans involved, and even those few will soon be completely replaced by robots.

The same is true for food. Vegetables produced on farms will be harvested by robots, with technology that already exists. Robotized trucks can then deliver the produce directly to consumers, who will select what they want online.

Services will be provided exactly the same way. For example, surgeon robots are already performing tasks more precisely than human surgeons can.

Everything a human being can do can be done better by robots.

Therefore, instead of working only for money, human beings can let all work be accomplished by robots and use their lives to do what they like - creating, doing research and studies, pursuing the arts, or meditating and achieving self-development. Under these conditions, the world will finally reach the level of paradise. That is why this system is called paradism.

A paradist system is already in place on the Elohim Planet, and it is the only possible next step for humanity. It is a process that leads to mondialization (nationalization on a worldwide scale). Nationalization in a paradist process leads naturally to a world government, under which the mondialization of all world resources is a matter of simple justice for all Humanity.

I hope many people will start paradist political parties around the planet and promote this idea. Paradism is coming soon anyway. But the sooner it comes, the better, for it can avert the additional human suffering that will otherwise result from the more terrible and devastating economic crashes that still lie ahead, when all economic and financial systems currently in use fail worldwide. RAEL, Founder of the International Raelian Movement




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[-] 1 points by genanmer (822) 8 years ago

They display many examples of such technologies that can create superabundance and free us from a monetary system





There are many more video links but I think you'd agree a consciousness shift must occur before such a society can exist.

That's why this group is proposing to try and build a test city to showcase how a resource based economic society would function.


[-] 1 points by rajarood (67) 8 years ago

Sure, I'm all for amelioration. But the mindset of the initial links you shared was qualitatively different from paradism. With paradism, resources will be essentially unlimited. Man will not be limited by resources in the conventional sense but by his cognition and imagination.


"You have just dined, and however scrupulously the slaughterhouse is concealed in the graceful distance of miles, there is complicity."

Ralph Waldo Emerson, 1870

[-] 1 points by genanmer (822) 8 years ago

Oh, I understand.

I'm aware that many suppressed technologies exist which could allow for bio-cybernetics and mind-machine interface.

An example using brain EMF's to control a video game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNr3yGcI_V8

3d printing (less advanced manufacturing relative to nanotech) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VJpBj2mLEU

I'm aware nanotechnology, zero point energy, and other technologies would create resources where there were none. However, being able to display people living in an environment with relatively advanced technologies (without having to use money) may make the transition towards such lifestyles easier.

People would be less likely to cling to the use of money if they knew their quality of life could in fact improve without it.

[-] 1 points by rajarood (67) 8 years ago

There is a rich history of these type of movements, from Shakers to Arcosanti and your futurists. I'm afraid humans will have to much improve DNA-wise or machine technology will have to become almost magical for a competition free, positive, and global scale paradigm shift. Until then, Self-Reliance and Culture a la Ralph Waldo Emerson.

[-] 1 points by genanmer (822) 8 years ago

Different people are at different stages in this process.

The transition into a collaborative society won't be adopted by everyone at once but simply waiting for the money system to destroy itself will create more suffering than at least offering sustainable lifestyles to the public.


[-] 0 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 8 years ago

OMG. Did I just witness a chat between a Raelian UFO cult member and a Zeitgeist cult member? This crackpot magnet web site is amazing.

[-] 1 points by rajarood (67) 8 years ago

I am not a Raelian. I am a universalist and a transhumanist.

[-] 1 points by genanmer (822) 8 years ago

This sounds very similar to


one group is working on the details


Perhaps a merge would be in order (of course the Raelian part might be met with some skepticism)

[-] 0 points by Jimboiam (812) 8 years ago

Ok. You get the biggest sucker of the year award. What utter and complete nonsense. Robots do everything? The Elohim Planet? Are you like 9 years old? This is the type of thing that shows the OWS is filled with uneducated, inexperienced simpletons who think they are being deep.

[-] 1 points by rajarood (67) 8 years ago

Go ahead, keep mumbling your 10 Commandments, bible boy.

[-] 0 points by Jimboiam (812) 8 years ago

Im an athiest, sorry to inform you.

[-] 1 points by rajarood (67) 8 years ago

You must be a very tortured soul / injured child or you wouldn't be so quick to lash out at others. Heaven forfend if you are in a position of [relative] power or influence--high school football coach or policeman. The world has too long had an unhealthy share of petty tyrants.

[-] 0 points by Jimboiam (812) 8 years ago

Im not a tyrant. I am a long time employer and been involved in trying to change politics for decades. The very corruption OWS is against today, i have been fighting for 20+ years. It is posts like your that deter from correcting problems, now that more people have a vested interest in ending the corruption. Your post has no chance of becoming reality and it is more in the realm of science fiction. So yes when i see someone posting some nonsense that is going to further divide this movement, or detract from what needs to be done, i will call you out on it. Stick to the plan. We aren't changing our government, because a Republic is the best form of government in the world, we are here to end corruption.

[-] 1 points by rajarood (67) 8 years ago

Your very thought processes are corrupted. Only in your imagination are you a superior, Age of Reason man. You deride theists of all varieties, but fail to understand your own leap of faith in embracing a universe, like God/gods, of unknown origin. Your defense of the Republic is a cartoon. If you are an employer, you might practice what you preach and offer all your workers a living wage at the expense of your personal/corporate profits. If you really want to effect positive changes, attempt to expand yourself scientifically, philosophically, and metaphysically, giving more to your family, employees, neighbors, and the world. Instead of feathering your nest and preaching, form a profit sharing / COOP B Corporation http://www.bcorporation.net/


[-] 0 points by Jimboiam (812) 8 years ago

I don't deride athiests i am one. Secondly i pay all my employees the best wages in the city and are at the top of the end for industry. Health benefits, 401k matching, dental, aflac, paid vacations. They are all very happy. You have no idea, that alot of small business owners, are capitalists, and we don't abuse our employees. Most of my hourly people make over $60k a year.

[-] 1 points by rajarood (67) 8 years ago

I said you deride "theists". That's "atheist" without the "a" if you care to look it up in the dictionary. I suspect you are trying not to own your own leap of faith in a universe which appeared out of nothingness. LOL! And instead of leeching off the efforts of your employees, why not fairly share the wealth with them by transforming your company into a employee owned COOP "B Corporation"?

[-] 0 points by Jimboiam (812) 8 years ago

As soon as the employees come up with the $11 million to pay me back for my investment they can have full ownership.

[-] 1 points by rajarood (67) 8 years ago

And your own belief in a universe...?