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Forum Post: OWS/MSM say's that Obama is the Solution OWS is Wrong

Posted 12 years ago on March 4, 2012, 2:48 a.m. EST by hdean (-29)
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Why isn’t the american media raising questions about these risks? Is it worth blowing up the world in order to stop Iran from having a nuclear energy program or even a nuclear weapon? Does Washington think China is unaware that Washington is taking aim at its energy supply? Does Washington think Russia is unaware that it is being encircled by hostile military bases?

Whose interests are being served by Washington’s endless and multi-trillion dollar wars? Certainly not the interests of the 50 million americans with no access to health care, nor by the 1,500,000 american children who are homeless, living in cars, rundown motel rooms, tent cities, and the storm sewers under Las Vegas, while huge amounts of public funds are used to bail out banks and squandered in wars of hegemony. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suJCvkazrTc

The US has no independent print and TV media. It has presstitutes who are paid for the lies that they tell. The US government in its pursuit of its immoral aims has attained the status of the most corrupt government in human history. Yet Obama speaks as if Washington is the font of human morality.

The US government does not represent americans. It represents a few special interests and a foreign power. US citizens simply don’t count, and certainly Afghans, Iraqis, Libyans, Somalians, Yemenis, and Pakistanis don’t count. Washington regards truth, justice, and mercy as laughable values. Money, power

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[-] 1 points by RedJazz43 (2757) 12 years ago

Where does OWS say this. I have been to GAs in half a dozen different cities and in every case the dominant position is far, far to Obama's left. At most OWS is indifferent to Obama, as it is to electoral activity in general, though a main reason for this is that its activist base tends to see the corporate state as unreformable and Obama is, of course, the chairman of the board of the state as well as being the commander and chief of its military arm.

[-] -1 points by hdean (-29) 12 years ago

I completely agree that the 100% goal of the OWS is to bring Raygun back from the dead and make him president for eternity.

[-] 1 points by RedJazz43 (2757) 12 years ago

If the vision of OWS is contrary to that of Obama it is even further from the reactionary meanderings of Reagan, though this is almost impossible for most Americans, including most professional commentators to understand as they find it difficult in the extreme to think outside of the Republican-Democratic binary and OWS is far, far outside that binary.

[-] 1 points by tbuontempo (194) from Jersey City, NJ 12 years ago

When did anyone, ANYONE, at OWS say Obama is the answer?

I have never heard this said at OWS. NEVER.

[-] 0 points by hdean (-29) 12 years ago

Every fucking day, every minute, the golden-one is the answer, he is the prayer there are no other god's than Obama.

There is only 2 state logic here, your either PUG or DEM, are you PUG? Then your a DEM, then you are OBAMA.

[-] 0 points by tbuontempo (194) from Jersey City, NJ 12 years ago

Let me understand you. You got to OWS?

I am there for 70% of GA's, and am a member of a very active Working Group. I have NEVER, EVER heard anyone at OWS say they support Obama. He is a joke at OWS.

When do you go? Where do you attend OWS functions?

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[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

Welcome the Plutocratic States of the Military Industrial Complex.........:)

You are fully assimilated.

Please be seated while awaiting your orders.

It is the business of these United States, to protect the interests of it's citizens on foreign soil.

It's their fully sworn duty.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just telling you how it is.

[-] 0 points by hdean (-29) 12 years ago

Thanks, we're ready. We'll wait all winter if we have too, like lemmings, once we get Obama re-elected we can all go to pasture, for another 4 years until we get new orders from the DNC.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

As usual, you're response has nothing to do with what was posted.

Confused much?

[-] -1 points by hdean (-29) 12 years ago

I completely agree. Most constipation problems in ameiKKKa are causes by voting. This VOTE & WAIT game leads to much of the public being full of shit most of the time.

Why wait until spring? Why not go out today and dump your feces in the park? Oh but you'll not venture out until the DNC gives you the green-light, ... so fucking sad.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 12 years ago

You are expecting to be insulted, but in your response you insulted yourself, so I won't bother.

[-] 0 points by GypsyKing (8708) 12 years ago

Wow, another version of the same post you just posted. I asked you a question there. I am waiting for an answer.

[-] 1 points by hdean (-29) 12 years ago

I asked you why you change your handle so much? Thrassy, Jart, ... GirlFriday, ... can't you just be one person?

I'm waiting for you to tell other asshole control freaks such as yourself how they too can be super-secret OWS moderators?

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8708) 12 years ago

The only question is who you are and who you're working for. You seem to know a lot about this forum for a guy who's been here about three days. Could that mean it is you, and not I, who are hiding under a new username, the classic method of the slimey troll?

For everybody's information, it's good to look at a person's profile here, and see how long they've been around. When they've spewed their lies for a week or two everybody's on to them, and so they need to get a new username.

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

With you on that GK. Old tried and true troll tactic.

[-] 1 points by brightonsage (4494) 12 years ago

Good catch. Notice most of the trolls are turning over new monikers.

Somebody call a play?

[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

No they don't often stay with an ID too long. Only a couple try to maintain an image. They usually give up after awhile though when they have finally slipped up once to often. Then they will reincarnate also.

[-] 1 points by brightonsage (4494) 12 years ago

I am getting leary of threads that look like bait from guys with fresh numbers. Seems to get a fresh crop with the Limbaugh incident.

[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

Well you have to start out going on trust. Then you need to trust your instincts and pay attention not just to what is said but how it is said. Yes there are a lot of obvious troll posts and then there are the ones with subtle poisons. Usually though if you keep an open mind and share only what you truly believe then their efforts generally fall apart. You know your on a good track when they won't leave you alone. Generally anything that is positive for the general population and so not so great for the greedy corrupt will attract the trolls to attack like flies going after shit.

[-] 1 points by brightonsage (4494) 12 years ago

Roger that. I had been saying that the mandated contraceptives didn't cost the church, the government, and not the insurance companies. Then I found this: “In the grand scheme of things, it doesn’t seem like a material cost to be added to the managed care company or the employer,” Stifel Nicolaus health insurer analyst Tom Carroll told Reuters."

So who are they trying to protect, bishops who don't represent their membership? The answer is nobody. It is just an Obama red herring. Anyway, the quote is a showstopper. Wonder why the Obama folks don't use it. Setting a trap? I don't get it.

[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

In politics it is often damned if you do and damned if you don't. Right now though I do not understand the Presidents tactics. I mean it looks like the republican party is trying to commit suicide with the actions that they have been taking. The only thing I can figure is that The President is letting them have all the rope they need to hang themselves.

[-] 2 points by brightonsage (4494) 12 years ago

I believe the preferred GOP term is"lynch."

Let's see; If you are LGBT the GOP doesn't want you. If you are a woman the GOP doesn't want you. If you are a teacher the GOP doesn't want you. If you are a firefighter, the GOP doesn't want you. If you are a nurse, the GOP doesn't want you. If you are a cop, the GOP doesn't want you. If you are in a union, the GOP doesn't want you. If you are black, the GOP doesn't want you. If you are brown, the GOP doesn't want you. If you aren't religious, the GOP doesn't want you. If you are poor, the GOP doesn't want you. If you are college educated, the GOP doesn't want you. If you are a veteran, the GOP doesn't want you. If you need Social Security, the GOP doesn't want you. If you want to keep your insurance after a negative diagnosis, the GOP doesn't want you. If you want the rich to pay there fair share, the GOP doesn't want you. If you believe that planet is warming exacerbated by humans, the GOP doesn't want you. If you believe in science the GOP doesn't want you. If you think alternative energy should be developed, the GOP doesn't want you. If you believe that the financial services industry should be regulated, the GOP doesn't want you. If you want birth control and preventative healthcare for women, the GOP doesn't want you. If you want clean air, water, food, and medicine, the GOP doesn't want you. Now I know that their are many more groups of people that the GOP doesn't want, but I am limited on time.

The bottom line is they want a few old bigoted white guys and they would like to suppress the votes of all of the groups I just named. That is the GOP plan for success, as I see it.

[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

Very impressive grasp and clarity on reality nicely put down in writing that is easy for anyone to read and understand ( except for trolls they are not paid to understand just to disrupt ).

About the only thing I can see that you missed ( just on a quick look ) would be that those Bigoted Old White Guys need to have money lots of it and if you have enough you can be voted an honorary Bigoted White Man as long as you can take direction without having to look where you are going ( for those who were born color impaired or challenged - what is the current politically correct designation these days? ). Anyway got money? Are you blind or willing to pretend? Well then the GOP want's you.

Yep yep. That pretty much says it all.

[-] 1 points by brightonsage (4494) 12 years ago

Thanks. The money angel occurred to me, but I realized that they have a really good thing going here. They are actually screwing the poor Old Bigoted White Men and they still support them. Guess it isn't rape if they ask for it. So, being dumb as a box of rocks is the requirement. Then they don't even have to buy them. You could refer to them as the sucker faction of the GOP.

As an aside, I am very colorblind. Since I am also a painter, it requires some workarounds. I never thought it would be a political asset, but there it is..

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

Yep. It will go away if given an opportunity. Maybe coming together to fight the greed and corruption will help.


1 points by brightonsage (1201) 45 minutes ago

I'm kind of an amateur cultural anthropologist, and little kids are much more colorblind than older people. Their are so many blended race kids now that maybe that will go away. There is a very deep seated mechanism to see "different from me" that may never go away, I suppose.

I try to be optimistic. ↥like ↧dislike permalink

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 12 years ago

Little known silver-linings. It's good you have found a positive outlook/use for an unfortunate condition. If only everyone were "properly" color-blind.

[-] 1 points by brightonsage (4494) 12 years ago

I'm kind of an amateur cultural anthropologist, and little kids are much more colorblind than older people. Their are so many blended race kids now that maybe that will go away. There is a very deep seated mechanism to see "different from me" that may never go away, I suppose.

I try to be optimistic.