Forum Post: OWS turning in to a joke
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 24, 2011, 10:59 p.m. EST by number2
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it started out about wall st. which is a legitimate issue. now it's "occupy" walmart, the school, the bridge. what's next?
and there is still no clear message or agenda.
It's kind of obvious what's going on, just taking a look at the last few posts on the forum:
This forum is horrible... and I'm not being negative 4 comments 26 minutes ago by Soldier last comment 0 minutes ago OWS turning in to a joke 1 comments 6 minutes ago by number2 last comment 0 minutes ago They are laughing at you. 70 comments 19 hours ago by stuartchase last comment 0 minutes ago Another poll shows support declining for the Occupy movement 34 comments 59 minutes ago by TechJunkie last comment 0 minutes ago Dr. Paul needs OWS supporters. 53 comments 2 hours ago by Gmartine last comment 1 minute ago read this you underachieving cry babies... 14 comments 30 minutes ago by morons123
Lot of people ... or perhaps just one or two ;) ... tripping over themselves in their eagerness to write OWS's obituary and convince everyone it is so (between rabid frothing against it). It'll take a little more than parlour tricks and trolling to do that. This website isn't even that relevant to it.
As long as the economic reality is punching people in the gut, OWS - perhaps under other names, because of all the co-opting attempts - will only be getting bigger. Especially once the warm weather is back.
I read and post here but the best news source and most focused information is the reddit news page. There's not much point in debating the "thinking about leaving", "nothing but leeches", "popularity dwindling threads".
seriously don't flatter yourself. NO ONE cares if your little party is over or not. (except maybe a few small buisness owners who suffer broken windows and less business from your blocking the streets) in fact we'd rather it not be. it's comical and entertaining to watch for the most part.
and no, don't fool yourself into believing there is someone out there worried about any OWS and how it is somehow making their life hard.
it's just a funny clip to watch once a week on a late show and a few forums to laugh at your delusions of becoming intelligentsia.
we used to see something on the evening news once a day. wasn't much just showing a bunch of rioters showing their ass and chanting silly sayings but, you don't even get that now. the nation is bored to tears. you are lucky to get yourself pepper sprayed. most attention you had all month right?
OWS is simply Distraction created by a Community Activist (guess who) to point the Blame towards anything BUT himself, and carried out by those most easily fooled, the young impressionable, ignorant, hungry for attention and Greedy.
it's just a funny clip to watch once a week on a late show and a great few forums to laugh at their dilusions of
OWS is a simply Distraction created by a Community Activist (guess who) to point the Blame towards anything BUT himself, and carried out by those most easily fooled, the young impressionable, ignorant, hungry for attention and Greedy.
Your entire post is what we call a non-sequitur. I was talking about this forum and the nature of certain of the posts being made. You're off on some tangent about OWS as a whole, which you obviously oppose. So why are you here? Are you one of the ones making these kinds of posts? If not why would you respond to what I have written? You say no one cares - so why are you here? Just to be smarmy and disruptive? Probably nobody cares about some municipal elector's forum or a forum about antique tractors either, so why aren't you there being disruptive, why are you here instead? If OWS doesn't matter why would you bother? It's obvious it does matter to you or you wouldn't waste your breathe trying to convince everyone that it's a distraction created by a "Community Activist" or anything else you're spewing. And the emotional/passionate/nonrational tone of your post (impressionable, ignorant, greedy, blah blah blah) is certainly telling as well. Maybe you're just having fun being a troll, I don't know, but that makes you nothing more than a zit-faced juvenile denizen of the internet to me, so nothing you say is relevant except as an example of a blathering vandal who doesn't respect anyone else's space.
You're not convincing anyone but yourself.
what makes you think I am not part of it all?
and what makes you think my comments and opinions do not matter?
I also commented to my son his shoe was untied yesterday. I'm GLAD he didn't call me a troll but it wouldn't have broke my heart.
I see you are a troubled youth so I'll leave you to better qualified to keep you on course.
and what makes you think my comments and opinions do not matter?
You said so yourself. No one cares, you said ... it was obvious that was meant to include you. Your opinions about something you don't care about don't matter. That's just basic common sense.
I see you are a troubled youth so I'll leave you to better qualified to keep you on course.
You will "leave me to better qualified to keep me on course", I see. I know a good remedial English teacher if you want.
Also, I'm 6 years from retirement. I know you really desperately need to believe some things to satisfy some emotional need, but sometimes reality is what it is.
yes reality. which goes back to my reply to your 1st. the Only people who care if OWS continues or not is the Protestors and the Obama administration. so, My comment stands. Don't Flatter Yourself. you wont find any so called 1% or hater or troll or whatever name you create who gives a rats ass if OWS lives on or dies. except for the comedy of it all.
You're just going in circles with empty platitudes, subjective impressions, etc. When you've got a coherent argument with even the slightest shade of discursive logic, get back to me.
Greedy? Seriously? I'm amazed that you would call OWS members greedy when you have wall street running rampant plundering billions as they go. But no, OWS is greedy. Sheesh!
yes, I'm sorry. but greed is what greed is.
try to look at it the way I looked at it. and no. I didn't say in My view.
but.
The amount of money someone else is "plundering" doesn't matter, could be $10 or 10 billion, but if You WANT for yourself what someone else HAS, I tend to think that may fall into the "Greedy" department. no?
so some person is very successful trading stock on the market. (AND btw, in MOST cases these BIG profits are made within corporations consisting of Thousands of stock Holders, people doing well perhaps, depending on how much they have invested of Their money(not the publics' or yours).
what is next?
a heart surgeon makes 3 mil one year and some regulatory commission decides that is too much?
I see eventually on this path some Twisted version of socialism or communism. Why not let the government take ALL profit of Everyone? then it can split it all evenly. :) jimmy who bags groceries at the food mart should have the same pay as Dr. Wilson right?
well. you get the point I'm sure. most LARGE profits, and large losses are made/lost by Investment brokers holding and trading stock for thousands of regular every day people.. or is this not true?
So when failed institutions took the American tax payer money to save themselves and failed to funnel that money back into the economy was that greed? When they took the money and gave themselves bonuses was that also an example of "You WANT for yourself what someone else HAS?" The government doesn't have its own money, it has only one way of generating money and that is through taxes, the taxes come from the people. Corporate greed isn't about the heart surgeon making 3 mill, its about financial institutions who make billions but don't pay taxes.
The "joke" is Faux News !
of course but is OWS even coherent or is it just occupy everyone and everything?
It is to occupy everyone and everything, if that everyone and everything refuses to operate on behalf of the public. The political and legal systems are proving to be inadequate on serving public interests, as corporations are banning together to rewrite the laws more and more every day.
We are coherent, but you need to look at the bigger picture to see it. Out of chaos comes order.
I'll think you will find that OWS is very coherent, as well as cognizant. Especially, after you research American History.
A very similar movement happened in 1776... that movement ultimately allowed you and I to discuss this matter freely in this open forum!
I'd like to see them "Occupy a Job"
Everyone has input -and ideas. Some suck. Others are brilliant. Is life. Join the group working to focus the beam on educating about why we are all doing this in the first place. http://occupywallst.org/forum/interesting-read-about-the-constitution-and-corpor/#comment-413890 until there is a paradigm shift where the gordian knot of fiat money and where it comes from-and how we volunteer for slavery-well, it won't stop.
Only a small percentage of the population lives within commuting distance of Wall Street. For those who don't only a few can take time out of their lives or from work to occupy in New York City, an even more difficult proposition since the eviction. Finally, even unemployed and retired people who might theoretically be able to occupy but who don't live in the immediate vicinity of Wall Street may not be able to afford the trip to New York City. So, if they are supporters of the movement, they are left with picking targets of opportunity in their own neigborhoods and so far I think they've done a pretty good job. Some people who support OWS don't even live in the United States and as a result OWS encampments have sprung up all over the world. They too are not in a position to march to Wall Street literally, but they too have been creative and inspiring in choosing appropriate targets of opportunity where they are.
occupy a bank then, financial institution or the federal reserve in your own area.
OWS will get spread so thin and people will be making jokes about all the various companies that get occupied.
It doesn't strike me so much being spread thin as being spread out. A lot of people literally cannot afford the trip to New York and the eviction has made the whole issue of occupation there problematic, at least for the time being, so people set up GAs and occupy where they are, which in fact is the specific recommendation of the NYC GA for people to organize GAs everywhere and where they are.
Part of this is perhaps a not clearly stated vision of seeing GAs the building blocks of a new society. The fact that most GAs are small, weak and few and far between is an honest indication of exactly how weak the movement really is and how much work needs to be done, which is truely collossal. But creating the illusion (to ourselves as well as the world) that we are bigger than we are by having a big demo in DC or NYC will not vitiate the necessity of organizing everywhere. Solidarity forever!
Walmart - one of the largest distributors of Chinese 'goods'. Also they stomp all over workers rights and treat their workers like shite
Schools - education, stop cutting education.
Bridge - funding for infrastructure. Brooklyn bridge and many others are in dire need of repairs and maintenance. This isn't me pulling stuff from my butt, many reports have came out that certain bridges are in dire need for some TLC.
"occupy" everything then because really evrything sucks in this country. And life is not fair everywhere you go.
Nobody is cutting education, We spend more money on education than anyothr country and we keep getting poorer results.
Don't work for walmart then.
http://chronicle.com/article/House-Votes-to-Cut/126456/
http://blog.chron.com/texaspolitics/2011/11/survey-shows-big-problems-from-public-education-cuts/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/29/shrinking-texas-school-pa_0_n_986909.html
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/17/local/la-me-state-budget-20111117
Took me 5 minutes to google.
The problem is religion doesn't bond well with logic.
that may be true but spending more money much just goes to bureacrats doesn't bond well with logic
they are now occupying houses. lol
Given that you equate Walmart, the school and the bridge with each other, I'm inclined to believe you just don't get the message.
no i don't get it. what is the message?
The movement was a Joke when it started..... no, before it was even thought of
what is so funny about the bankers robbing our children's future?
"turning" ? into a joke.
lol
their Holy Obama runs around bailing out businesses who donated to his campaign fund.
They can't really do anything about the businesses but they Could throw out their messiah.
but instead, they run out and protest everything from a street to ketchup.
"turning" ? into a joke.
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"there is still no clear message"
Its clear to everyone else who isn't regurgitating this line over and over. You're just being deliberately obtuse.
"There are none so blind as those who will not see.."
Not the first time in history that nay-sayers chose to be ignorant, or at least pretend to be.. Nope, not the first time by a long shot..
Maybe the message is that we are going to take matters into our own hands and persist in doing what the government and the economy aren't doing.
When institutions refuse to act in behalf of the public and continue to operate in their own greed and continue to rewrite the legal system so they face less and less consequences for their heinous atrocities, they will be facing threats of occupation.
The day could come, too, when we finally occupy the government.
Kill Walmart! Then Kill your television.
besides blocking streets being a health hazzard and now supporting a convicted cop killer. What has the OWS accomplished ?
occupy OWS
OWS is dead. Tea Party zero arrest compared to the OWS loons had over eight thousand arrest, not to mention the social unrest, theft, rape, drugs and murders. OWS is a disgrace and America is sick of it
Turning?
I must agree. It has become a movement with no focus and little to do about any cause of the financial condition to a movement bent on accomplishing nothing but threatening jobs occupied by the 99%. Additionally it has become a platform for left wing politics and the very liberal view. Nothing about fixing the laws that enable the banks and wall street. The movement has failed.
This is no joke! I want you to speak truth to power!. Say it once, say it twice. Say it loud. Say it proud. I'm down with the KTC. The Revolution starts here!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGaRtqrlGy8&feature=related
http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/make-a-stand-join-the-clan/
The Revolution starts here! No one can silence the Revolution!
the reason OWS is failing is too many of you are stupid anarchists, left wing entitlement loving utopia dreaming big government hippie's and just plain illegitimate in your approach, lack of message, ideas, and you misjudged american values...you are the 1%.....it is only now dawning on you...hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Dude... you are either freeze-dried, or stuck in a time warp! The term "Hippy" has not been used since the 60's!
under-achieving jealous cry babies
very inteligent post there bro