Forum Post: OWS to me is......
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 17, 2011, 2:21 a.m. EST by singlemom99
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from Bethlehem, PA
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OWS is coming up in conversation everyday with millions of people. I would say the common question is, "What do u think of OWS?" (This is a question you can ask someone to understand who they are by the answer they give) First off I say that I am all for it and that I agree. I then say I am the 99% and I'm struggling just like most of the adult youth I know. Being the 99% shouldn't be based on the number that shows up on your bank statement every month. OWS is a group made up off all good people. We are all just trying to help each other. People that have left over money need to help other people out. We are not looking for a handout we are wanting a break. Everyone who has money right now got a "big break" in their life somehow. The people struggling have been for years. I wish people could live the way a lot of us live for just one week and see how much it sucks. Think about it, we have everything we need within 10 miles of where we are. Life could be so easy, happy and fun if we all worked together.
It might be true to say that most of the "99%" isn't greedy and doesn't need to own beautiful expensive things to make them happy. Right now all I really have is an iphone, mac book, car, enough clothes to last me awhile, a bed, toothbrush and toothpaste, soap and makeup. I had it all a few years ago and now I can't afford my wants. I'm content with what I have. All I want is a home but the cost of living is too expensive to afford.
Occupyoneer I hope I inspired you. I never protested or joined occupy groups. However I've been reading this forum since day one from my computer. This is where its at. This might be social networking at its best.
I must say I completely agree with you, we must remember that this distinction of 99% and 1% is only made when we fight those who fight us. Not all people who have money are to blame. This is not a game of blaming or accusing, it is a movement of people. Once the 1% is toppled we must think of ourselves as a united 100% again. One of society's greatest weaknesses today is to systematically categorize people, to divide and thus facilitate the rule of the oppressors on the oppressed. We fight so that people come before money, and so we must also show that the bank account does not shape our view of people. They are just numbers after all. Conversation and observation are the only ways to truly get to know people, to get the people moving we must show to all that we are "the people", and not one certain group. In that way we will practice what we preach.
Thats why I love OWS because it seems like we are the only ones left who talk and observe. Thanks to us people are starting to move, I can see it happening all around.
The time has come to let the people say what they think and they have to listen. The 1% is sitting on a bomb and it could blow at any moment.
Yeah a big money bomb. 2012 is the year.
The time has come, ready your arguments, your videos, your speeches, your thoughts and your rights! The movement is the people!
OWS to me is the dissatisfaction in how the system works. It means that I'm tired of seeing politicians sell out to corporations. It means that I can't stand anymore being told that college will give me the independence I want, but no one wants to give an interview, even though I have an electrical engineering degree. It means that I want to see change, true change, in how things work. I hope OWS achieves this by raising awareness at very least so the people can make the politicians work for all of us as a country and not just for the elite rich.
Thanks for your post, singlemom99. You're so right. I wish we all had your sense and your vision. I'm not yet sure that everyone who's commenting on this website feels that they're truly part of OWS, but your words sure do resonate with those of us who feel we are. =]
Sorry guys I've been away from my MAC and busy over the weekend. Wow, first off I'd like to say thank you Occupyoneer for defending me from MASTERdBATER. "From what I can tell this is uneducated single mother who is wondering why her life is hard. And her answer would be in the description I made of her." YOU ARE SO WRONG. I'm not going to waste my time telling you who who I am. If you would like to know ask me but please don't assume. From what I can tell tho is MASTERdBATER probably watches porn 4 hours out of the day, has to please himself because women don't want him, "college" educated and pissed off at life. Maybe you should strive to be someone like Occupyoneer. To me he sounds young, attractive, smart, funny, and loves to experience life. A man with emotions is a beautiful thing and hard to find it seems. Why do u think women love gays haha? I should have my masters in the study of Men but can't find a better teacher than myself.
The Enemy of Nature: The End of Capitalism or the End of the World? A book by Joel Kovel A world where exchange value is the predominant value such as capitalism will destroy nature and us with it.
I agree that we've practically been legislated out of the boundaries of a comfortable life. Sure they are stealing our money vehemently, but we have to realize greed and desire for corporate products is giving them power as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGaRtqrlGy8
Here are the kings of inhumane values! They are the Lords of the Dirty Fucks!
http://occupywallst.org/forum/stop-the-evildoers/
The Revolution starts here!
I believe that the biggest break I have received in my life is to have had parents who did not try to give me the world on a silver platter. I was made to work for what I wanted. I still remember that 3 speed English racer (blue) that I purchased at age 15 with my own allowance, birthday, holiday, and paper route money. I started saving when I was 13. I cared for that bike like a baby. And I was so proud every time I rode it. When I left for the service at age 19, I “gave” the bike to my sibling (then 15 years old) with strict instructions. I never saw my baby again. My gift was pissed on, I believe, because my sibling did not have to earn this gift.
As I look at the younger generation of today (15 – 25), I see my sibling of years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-3hZsXrxaI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mkRFCtl2MI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SQqjTxI3vc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EewGMBOB4Gg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w
"People that have left over money need to help other people out."
Could you clarify "left over money" for me?
"We are not looking for a handout we are wanting a break."
Huh?
"Everyone who has money right now got a "big break" in their life somehow"
Prove it of GTFO
How can you only have negative things to say about her post? What she said was not only beautiful, it was also true, and your reaction to her just makes me even more thankful I'm able to see that, because for some reason you're currently blind to it.
I don't think that what I said was at all negative. Two questions and a request to back up a statement with facts. How do you see that as negative?
Well to me it all came off as pretty critical, I can't speak for anyone else. You might have said "Prove it or GTFO" playfully, or half-jokingly or whatever, but without a ;P or anything, it just came off as someone being hostile for no reason. Anyway, that was my take.
I would agree with hostile, just not negative.
From what I can tell this is uneducated single mother who is wondering why her life is hard. And her answer would be in the description I made of her.
The only thing we can say now for sure is that she's much more educated in the important things than you are. Or maybe English just isn't your first language, and you're not yet able to write it without sounding offensive.
Offense is my intent, but not specifically in a negative way. I make attempts to offend in hopes the person will realize why and correct their thinking.
The OP is specifically what is wrong with our country. No personal accountability.
So you're not content with just blaming the victim, you wanna offend it too...
I suppose that accountability for those who've been defrauding us all to the tune of trillions of dollars within a system increasingly rife with unfettered corporatism and crony capitalism is conversely undeserving of your attempts at offensiveness to create a better world.
Victim is your definition, not mine. Your second point receives offense from me regularly, but it is directed at our government as it should be.
Corporate fraud/corruption exist, no one will argue. My point is that the ones committing the acts are not the problem (not the immediate problem anyway), it is the over complicated over reaching government that promotes most if not all of it. Fix the government, and the fraud will fix itself.
Under a reformed government with a functioning welfare system the "needy" that want to make the effort will be rewarded, and the ones that don't (see OP) will seal their own fate.
Targeting prosperous Americans will get you nowhere.
Yes I happen to believe that the 99% are victims of greed and corruption increasingly apparent in the current US political system over the past decade, and that's exactly what Occupy Wall Street is targeting, not just "prosperous Americans". You're mischaracterizating it, and you should know better by now. I'm explaining this to you, but I doubt you're open to it.
I'm not sure what specifically falls under your term "complicated over reaching government", but in regards to our recent economic collapse, there's obviously been too little appropriate government oversight and sensible financial regulations put into place to protect us in the 99%. (I say "us" like you're an American citizen too but I'm beginning to have my doubts about that now.)
"made up of all good people"? I guess thats why yall finally set up that tent for women? So the number of rapes would decline?
A featured speaker at the Tea Party's July 4th event in Oklahoma talked about using his military training to become a domestic terrorist. That same Tea Partier was later arrested for the rape of a 7yr old at his house where police also discovered a stolen grenade launcher. Are you saying that totally discredits everyone in the Tea Party? No. And it shouldn't. Nor should the actions of him and a few others make us question the legitimacy of the entire Tea Party movement. There's always an extremist fringe when you assemble a lot of people together.
Likewise, none of the overwhelming majority of those supporting the Occupy Wall Street movement would defend rape or violence.
Of course, if you, or powerful corporate moneyed institutions including mainstream media outlets, wanted to discredit a movement by focusing on exceptions, it would be a natural move, since based on contemporary knowledge of human nature most of us are very susceptible in attributing disproportionately negative behavior to those groups we don't consider to be our own.
Sex is what connects people's souls. Aw I'm sorry you probably never experienced this
You cannot connect souls when souls in this society are outlawed.
not forcefully
I don't believe I used the term sex, I believe the term was rape. Would you like for me to share the news article?
i really don't believe news articles anymore
Depends on the source.
Obviously, Fox, CNN, et al. are out.
As are the crypto-fascist fake-left outlets like NPR and MSNBC:
Bought and paid for by Wall St.
Good sources are:
Thanks for the links =]
No problem.
Also, please check out:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/nutshell-is-back-new-and-improved/
http://metapolitik.org/article/approaching-metapolitical-discourse
Of course. You're a conspiracy nut. Think you have your own personalized government satellite just to watch you also?
OWS = stupid folks who want a communist system. Go piss on each other and move to North Korea. Take Noam Chomsky with y'all!