Forum Post: OWS= Stealing from our Parents
Posted 12 years ago on March 20, 2012, 5:47 a.m. EST by toonces
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Funny how OWS demands that those who have managed to acquire wealth have their property taken by the government and redistributed to others (themselves). They must want the government to take what it has taken a lifetime for their parents to accumulate. They need to vote for the government to do what they don't have the stones to do, that is, demand from their parents the money and property it has taken a lifetime to save.
Nah, we just want the rich to pay their fair share for using the roads that we built, walking on the streets that we paved, enjoying the fire department that we work for, enjoying the police protection that keeps them safe, using cars that we built, breathing air that we keep clean through EPA enforcement, enjoying the parks that we paid for, eating the food that we grew...
And then utopia?
Who paid for those things to begin with? The "rich" have paid proportionally more to fund and maintain all those thing you talk about.
ehh - wrong the middle class paid for it all built up when America still had factories in the US. The economy functions like this I will volunteer a lesson: Mr moneybags starts a company, decides to employ some people who help him run his company and make it a success who without he could not operate. In return all of Mr moneybags employees go out and stimulate all of Mr moneybags friends who also have companies. Who are then able to hire more employees to help build their companies - those employees now come and shop from Mr. Moneybags making him even wealthier. The economy has always been based on the notion of pay it forward. Downsize jobs, outsource, kill off jobs, you just watched the economy plummet. See ... no jobs and no workers = no consumers = no business to stimulate. The moment it all fell apart is when corporations were to greedy and stupid to realize more employees create more a more profitable economy - they unfortunately couldn't see past their bonuses - and still can't grasp this notion of a circular economy. They are not the great gods of finance they deem themselves to be this seems like economics 101 to me - anyone else? Then they have the nerve to make such comments like they made this country. No collectively we all made it work but you chose to take us out of the equation (even if you shot yourselves in the foot) so now we want to take you out of the equation and prevent you from controlling our lives. We understand how society and economics and freedom and capitalism should function - you whoever "you" are - have no idea but continue to persist on imposing your faulty notions onto our democracy - we want you and your screwed up values to follow your companies overseas - and stay there - we don't want your kind of business or economy we'd be perfectly glad to start fresh on our own and without your involvement or corruption seeping into every corner of our freedom and lives.
But doesn't "Mr moneybags" not also improve the lot of all of the employees he hires? Doesn't "Mr moneybags" and his friends make the lives of those he and hires better? If someone doesn't want to work for "Mr moneybags" or his friends, doesn't he have a choice to work for someone else or start his own company or work?
Judging by our debt, I'd say no one's paid for those things yet.
That is an irresponsible government spending problem, not a tax rich people more problem.
Another misinformed, low information, false interpretation, repetitive thread started by toonces?
Who would have thunk?
Who has the money? Who wants to take it? Nothing you presented refutes what I said.
The funny part is, nobody is saying or doing what you said, except maybe you.
Do you have a link to a picketsign, or anything at all where this is a demand of any sort?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/only-blood-of-the-rich-will-stop-occupy-st-louis-hit-with-frightening-pro-occupy-graffiti/
Well hello... didn't the banks already do that? Newspaper story, 2011, "There are nearly 1.7 million homes in the U.S. in some state of foreclosure. Banks already own some of these homes and will soon repossess many more." Now, who owns the banks? How do the banks fund their trading? You know good and damn well OW doesn't want your mom and pops house. Most of us want our own, and are willing to fight for our own.... Now I ask you what Wall Street liar put you up to this?? How about telling your cronies that a lot of us have read the book New World Order...by Ralph Epperson, published in 1990.. So stop behaving stupidly!!!
You may not want their home, but you want the savings it took years and years to put away. Why would you rather take from "the bank" rather than work for what you want yourself?
Does your name mean toonces or looney toons? Please don't reply to my posts anymore....I am not here to argue a moot subject, particularly when you as the poster have no idea what you are posting about!!. When you start making sense, which I doubt you will, then we can have an intelligent discussion.
You are a moron. The easiest way to keep me from replying to your posts is to not repy to me. I really don't care who replies, I just try to give my opinion if I think the person I reply to is honestly wanting discussion. You obviously fall outside of someone here who wants honest discussion, so don't reply to me any longer and I will not reply to you.
Moron? Would that be the same as a MOOR? Or perhaps ON the same level as one? Is that a secret masonic code word??
Just curious....
If that equation is true than 3 = Bear
Your opinion is this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R25Eflr0oJ8
Go back to debate class.
Go back to going back to things.
These parents are the ones who push debt on to unborn children. They have been doing this for decades. You have it backwards.
Funny how critics of OWS claim that OWS protestors want to acquire wealth that they haven't earned. Most OWS protestors just want the same opportunities to earn their wealth as their parents had.
Fifty years ago, even workers without college degrees could get jobs that enabled them to buy homes and cars and put their children through college.
Now, those jobs have been stolen by the greedy elites of Wall Street, and are performed by slaves in countries far away. Since those workers cannot afford to buy many of the products they make, the economy continues to collapse, all because of the greed of a few.
The greed of those who want theunions and government to give them money they have not earned.
The progress of capitalist society should naturally produce increasingly well paid jobs and better working conditions. This is what progress is, better lives for everybody.
No, the capitalist society allows for the individual to have the right to his own labor and the proceeds it produces.
With progress, the worker can produce more, so he is entitled to more return.
That's why Bernake set the interest rate on treasuries at zero, so my parents can pay him to hold their money or rather use it to bail out the banks? Pay attention.