Forum Post: OWS is starting to embarrass Obama, look for press coverage to disappear.
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 5, 2011, 10:26 a.m. EST by foreverleft
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It was the port thing, mindless, stupid, horrible PR and evidence of hard left infiltration right out there for all to see.
Bye bye OWS.
There aren't political parties or infiltrated in OWS. People protesting against the corps are students without a future, poor without a hope and adults without a job. It's so in America, Europe and every part of the world. The Movement is strong because represents the 99% of italian, spanish, french, english, german and so on people. That's why it can't be arrested. To win it's enough to go on.
ACORN and the Democrat Party have infiltrated.
I didn't know that and I'm sorry to listen to these things. In Italy the situation is different. As a matter of fact italian citizens have decided not to vote in order to reach gradually a direct democracy. I hope the things will improve in your country too.
I agree that the vast majority of OWS supporters wouldn't especially agree with or even particularly understand a radical world view. However, that doesn't vitiate the fact that the initial organizers of OWS were strongly influenced by an anarcho-syndicalist world view, nor is it correct to say that they some how "took over" the movement. On the contrary, to a considerable degree they were its creators and they continue to be its most coherent and articulate voices.
People have an unfortunate tendency to limit their possibilities. There seem to be two camps, the pro-OWS zealots who refuse to acknowledge any flaws in the movement, and the anti-OWS zealots who want to declare every mishap that befalls OWS renders the movement illegitimate or fundamentally immoral. This is a shallow analysis.
The truth is more complex. Bad things were done in Oakland, by some police as well as some protesters. There is no evidence either are typical of the whole.
Similarly, just because there are some odd characters who've associated themselves with OWS and some protesters express views far outside anything that could reasonably be called representative of the views of 99% of Americans doesn't invalidate legitimate grievances most can agree with, such as the dire need for campaign finance reform and an investigation into possible criminal behavior in the financial industry.
Just because the Oakland incident was - I agree - a PR disaster, doesn't mean OWS is illegitimate.
At the end of the day OWS consists of the same people who protested the WTO, the same people who would be anti-war protestors if a Republican were president and will fail because of the same reasons. They are actually the 1% and the more the actual 99% see of them the more disgusted they become.
Hard leftists, opportunists, starry eyed young "progressives" who have no more a clue than the moonbat professors who indoctrinate them...the usual suspects.
The "hard left" has hardly "infiltrated" OWS. Rather, the intellectual traditions of anarcho-syndicalism were not only present in OWS at its very origins, but to a considerable degree were responsible for those origins. What is interesting is how and why those ideas resonated with so many people who hold a much more moderate world view.
It's not that complicated; the mainstream supporters of OWS are angry about such things as the Wall Street bailout, soaring personal and national debt, radically disproportionate wealth and its corresponding disproportionate political influence. They're no more amenable to hard left ideology them they were before; these grievances really aren't 'leftist' grievances.
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Americans won't think for themselves.
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Americans either want an expert to think for them, many experts know nothing. You still need to choose an expert but there is no thought in doing that. Experts are never going to explain to their victims that they are only 10th best, they are all the best, or Americans want a quote from some big shot. Do they really listen to the quote because that quote is far superior?
Didn't the expert economists who testify before congress or advise the president, destroy the American economy. If it wasn't the experts who designed the strategy that has sunk America, did it all just happen by accident or destiny? I watch sports all the time. The experts are wrong about sports too, most of the time. In the stock market they cover themselves by claiming their advice is long term. There is no definition of long term.
I have been searching for an attorney to sue PIMCO. The class action securities practice is all done on a contingency. From the very beginning of my search I expected to find knowledgeable attorneys who could examine the evidence I presented to them and realize there was no doubt. That hasn't happened yet. They all run to an expert to tell them what to do.
I am very disciplined about using absolute facts with deductive reasoning to arrive at correct conclusions. I've done this since I took a logic course in 1960. I keep it real simple. That doesn't work because 99.999% of Americans are in a trance that is far stronger than I ever imagined. If the trance goes unbroken, nothing will work. People get pissed about the trance. They would rather be called a pervert or anything than admit they are in a trance.
I'll leave it to you to solve that problem. I don't know how to do it.
We will keep reporting on OWS even if it starts to embarrass Obama. The people have a right to know who their Pres. supports. Come on people keep up the pressure, shut down the port of NY and any other port you can think of. Stop people from going to work on Wall Street, Obama can take it and if he can't so be it.
He will cut his support or the Right will be on him like stink on a protestor.