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Forum Post: OWS is not accomplishing what I thought it would

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 13, 2011, 10 p.m. EST by HitGirI (-2)
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I have been a strong OWS supporter as everyone on this forum knows. But someone did point out to me that standing in a park with a sign that says "Occupy" is not going to stop the greed and corruption of the world. In fact I understand it is about as pointless as writing on my computer "Occupy." Am I just losing hope or what. We got some press coverage, but now nobody seems to care, we seem to be more of a joke about hippies than anything else. I was hoping maybe for socialistic revolution, when is this going to happen?

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[-] 10 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

hey

I've been waiting a long time for this day. The thing is, this is just the beginning. It took about five years to get out of Nam. Some analysts have commented that next summer may look like 68.

It just may.

This is going to take time. Those with their hands on the levers of power took many years to cultivate their connections and get to where they are, they will not go easily.

we will have to fight tooth and nail.

tooth

and

nail

Never surrender.

[-] 4 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Hey, the HitGirl that you are responding to is posing. This one has a join date of of Dec. 13 2011. The real HitGirl has this on her profile: HitGirl I am a BIG Elizabeth Warren fan and Thom Hartmann acolyte. CSULB graduate. Currently employed. Hoping to help fight for change. Joined Oct. 20, 2011

[-] 3 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

duh

now I gotcha - the poser posted this forum post

that's why the comparison looked the same, because it is

so, do you have the real hitgirl's profile open?

[-] 1 points by leavethecities (318) 12 years ago

Wrote a long response to a poser, wow I feel stupid.

[-] 2 points by NLake72 (510) 12 years ago

I'll save those words for later.

[-] 2 points by ARod1993 (2420) 12 years ago

I don't know about socialist revolution, but I do know that one of the spinoffs of the original movement is planning to set up a national GA and release a set of national demands (essentially our version of the Contract with America) at the height of the election season, and if the new Congress blows them off they're planning a Tea Party-esque organizing and fundraising drive to try to elect as many people as they can and scare the shit out of DC come 2014 and 2016.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 12 years ago

Hey Girl, you have a fake trying to besmirch your name. Here's the link:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/beware-there-is-a-fake-hitgirl-out-there/

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 12 years ago

The Revolution has a new theme song!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L-GOHa5-YQ

http://occupywallst.org/forum/in-the-name-of-allah/

The Revolution starts here!

[-] 1 points by alexrai (851) 12 years ago

It will take years of sustained political action for real change to happen, but the amazing success in putting this issue on the political radar and starting dialog in a mere 3 months is pretty impressive.

Don't worry fake HitGirl, when Europe implodes, war starts in Syria, and the American economy finally gives up its last breath... it will start happening a lot faster.

The current track leads to a dead end, and no one is bothering to fix the problem so it can really only get worse.

[-] 1 points by sato (148) 12 years ago

it's hard to achieve something when you cant convince and persuade the people to understand you. That's the biggest OWS failure. So far the people are divided as how OWS helps them or not. The people turn their back on OWS, not even Wall St itself, but the people. If OWS could be something everyone agreed we needed, it would be unstoppable.

[-] 1 points by Brandon37 (372) 12 years ago

In America, never. That is not what we are about. If you still care about focusing on corruption, it has a purpose.

[-] 1 points by whatisgoingon (2) 12 years ago

I hear you Something needs to happen. ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS.!!! It is past time to stand up and put this country back in the hands of people!!! Sad to say but until some blood is spilt then nothing is going to change. Right now the 1% and the government is just laughing at us. Just think a bunch of tripping hippies and pissed off african americans have more balls and got more things changed than people today. Everyone is scared to throw the first punch!! Also I mean NO disrespect to people who want to do things peacefully, but the truth is it's just not gonna cut the mustard. You should check out the news article I just posted, if you feel like throwing up!!

[-] 1 points by buphiloman (840) 12 years ago

2 Words: False. Flag. Fuck off troll.

[-] 1 points by whatisgoingon (2) 12 years ago

I hear you Something needs to happen. ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS.!!! It is past time to stand up and put this country back in the hands of people!!! Sad to say but until some blood is spilt then nothing is going to change. Right now the 1% and the government is just laughing at us. Just think a bunch of tripping hippies and pissed off african americans have more balls and got more things changed than people today. Everyone is scared to throw the first punch!! Also I mean NO disrespect to people who want to do things peacefully, but the truth is it's just not gonna cut the mustard. You should check out the news article I just posted, if you feel like throwing up!!

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 12 years ago

Well we got the support of Ben and Jerries and I saw an interview on TV with the Young Turks and a former lobbyists.

Nobody said things would change over night.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Hey, the HitGirl that you are responding to is posing. This one has a join date of of Dec. 13 2011. The real HitGirl has this on her profile: HitGirl I am a BIG Elizabeth Warren fan and Thom Hartmann acolyte. CSULB graduate. Currently employed. Hoping to help fight for change. Joined Oct. 20, 2011

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 12 years ago

lol okay

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

You need a time out. :/

A lot of people care. It is a question of stamina. Give up now and you give them what they want. Although, I doubt that there will be a "socialistic revolution". For a good long while the upper class has been able to shield itself and distance itself from the working class people. The problem is that this is not one specific group of people. And they cannot just play that off as much as they would like to. Further, the denial makes the United States look ridiculous in international politics.

[-] 0 points by thefutureisnow (223) from Newark, NJ 12 years ago

I see a lot of people who care but i also see a lot of people who do not, And even though many people are creating forums and websites and marches and rallies i still do not see or hear anything about what this movement really needs , And that is to actually be heard in he house of representatives or at the very least the supreme court , Because we can speculate all we want and come up with the greatest solutions ever but none of them mean a damn thing unless they are actually put into motion within the proper legal channels and submitted , So why are we even here to have some intellectual chat room for grad students and investment bankers who are posing as OWS participants,

[-] -1 points by HitGirI (-2) 12 years ago

To hell with those Jewish capitalistic bankers. Chest Rockwell for president.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you had a problem with Jewish people.

[-] 1 points by HitGirI (-2) 12 years ago

Who do you think the 1% are seriously? They invented christ to keep all the non jewish people down. OWS has to start accepting the definition of the 1% is going to incluse almost all Jews

[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Information

Joined Dec. 13, 2011


You are a posing douchebag. You aren't the real deal. Go fuck yourself.

[-] 1 points by HitGirI (-2) 12 years ago

http://occupywallst.org/forum/capitalism-for-dummies/#comment-502243

I posted this 2 days ago and have been here since the start

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

HitGirl I am a BIG Elizabeth Warren fan and Thom Hartmann acolyte. CSULB graduate. Currently employed. Hoping to help fight for change.

Private Messages

send message

Information

Joined Oct. 20, 2011


No. The above is the real hitgirl. With the above join date. Your join date is in fact Dec. 13 2011

You are a posing douchebag.

[-] 0 points by MASTERdBATER (15) 12 years ago

I am glad you finally see the error in your ways. If you could just wake up the few people left we could all go back to simply complaining about the weather.

[-] 0 points by fjolsvit (957) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

Ae911truth.org will address your concerns. But you have to exercise intellectual courage. A skill not taught in formal education these days.

[-] 0 points by mediaauditr (-88) 12 years ago

It's time to study up on the 1 out of 10 politicians who have morals and values, and vote out the rest of them. ALL OF THEM. Mobilize Nov.2012!!!

[-] 0 points by thefutureisnow (223) from Newark, NJ 12 years ago

Yea you got it right but the people standing in the park are making money for people creating bank accounts for donations and assets from unsuspecting contributors who think they are actually helping out the people in the park with the signs , The real change will come when we actually have at least one piece of legislation to submit for amendments to the restrictions and bail outs of big business corporations and investment bankers who lose peoples money in the shady deals they make behind closed doors,

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

That hitgirl that you are responding to joined today. The real HitGirl (the one that started this thread) reads like this: HitGirl I am a BIG Elizabeth Warren fan and Thom Hartmann acolyte. CSULB graduate. Currently employed. Hoping to help fight for change. Information Joined Oct. 20, 2011 The fake HitGirl has a join date of Dec. 13 2011

Click on the user name to make sure that you are responding to the right one.

[-] 0 points by thefutureisnow (223) from Newark, NJ 12 years ago

I seem to run into that sort of issue on a few different sites i have visited, People using other peoples user names so she is a copy cat hitgirl or imposter as we say ,

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Yep. It is all together quite silly.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

once it warms up it is gonna get crazy 2012 is gonna make 1968 look g-rated!!!!!

[-] 0 points by HitGirI (-2) 12 years ago

I want to drink the blood of every man woman and child 1%er rich banker hell yeah

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

you are an anti semite go fuck yourself

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Hey the HitGirl that you are responding to is posing. This one has a join date of of Dec. 13 2011.

The real HitGirl has this on her profile:

HitGirl I am a BIG Elizabeth Warren fan and Thom Hartmann acolyte. CSULB graduate. Currently employed. Hoping to help fight for change. Private Messages send message Information Joined Oct. 20, 2011

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

the name is the same - or it looks like it when I copied and pasted both, and increased the font size, they look identical

but you can't have two profiles with the same name

so what gives?

the profiles are the same - no info now

looks like she got hacked

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Yep. I was over at the thread http://occupywallst.org/forum/capitalism-for-dummies/#comment-502243 Blue Rose explained how it can be done.

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

is that explanation over there?

I mean, I know if you substitute a character it can work

there was a phishing expedition on myspace, where the url wasn't m it was rn - that's r n yspace

clever, looks the same

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

I'm a ding bat. The troll is using a capital I instead of an lowercase L.

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 12 years ago

ah, got it

I had found the real hitgirl's profile open for a sec and missed that

wait, here's the spelling of the poster for this forum post:

HitGirI

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 12 years ago

Damn, they're some sneaky bastards! They may be the enemy but I respect their cunning.

[-] 0 points by Farleymowat (415) 12 years ago

I am definitely a conservative, but I like the real HitGirl, not this Jew hating jerk hole imposter.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 12 years ago

Agreed. The real HitGirl's a keeper. It's interesting that our 'opposition' chooses existing usernames instead of new ones. That's deviously clever. I like it though because it keeps us on our toes. It's a game of chess.

[-] 0 points by Farleymowat (415) 12 years ago

I don't go for that imposter bullshit. I don't give a damn if it's clever. I say it's damn evil. Sorry, it just pisses me off. Especially the Jew hating bullshit.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

well this one has got to go

[-] 1 points by HitGirI (-2) 12 years ago

Thats not very nice

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

neither is this statement "To hell with those Jewish capitalistic bankers" that is anti semitic i am all for bringing down the system but jews are not the problem non intellectuals are the problem

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[-] -1 points by pinker (586) 12 years ago

Non-intellectuals are the ones who still act like cave men.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

this is really a struggle between the elite 1% and the intellectual 1%

[-] 0 points by thefutureisnow (223) from Newark, NJ 12 years ago

But what about the elite intellectuals , I would say they may have the upper hand in the whole situation ,

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

ah yes the orchestraters of the new world order they are very dangerous indeed

[-] 0 points by thefutureisnow (223) from Newark, NJ 12 years ago

Yes but now things are a bit different than they were when the NWO was created , seven billion people on the planet and that is just the known census ,they are not quite outspoken yet but for sure they are outnumbered , Now all we have to do is out wit them and find as many people as we can in federal Gov,t positions who are not war criminals and corrupt money and power mongers , i know right now it may seem like that is quite impossible but its not , And there may be more people than we know who are waiting for the right time to emerge in our favor and help us close the chapter of this wall st saga that has plagued our country and all the people in it for such a very long time ,

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 12 years ago

The so-called NWO's most powerful weapon is ignorance and apathy. People are waking up finally. There may still be time for us but it's fastly running out. There are indeed people in the military and federal government that don't agree with the concept of perpetual war and world domination and let's hope they side with the rest of us next year. We're gonna need them.

[-] 0 points by thefutureisnow (223) from Newark, NJ 12 years ago

Actually you are on the right track there are many US, soldiers who have served their country and i really do not think that all of them would agree with the NWO , Yea especially soldiers like Sgt, Shamar Thomas , have you seen him backing down the NYPD in a righteous political outrage, i am quite sure there are many more soldiers like Mr Thomas , who do not agree even officers as well generals, i think the list of those who may refuse to entertain ideologies of the NWO , Is not as big as what i like to call big media wants us to believe, America is not as dead as everyone thinks , ,I really do not believe it there are just to many decent people i have seen them everyday i do not even have to look for them they are just there everywhere , I believe in America and i really hope there will be some kind of compromise even if it has to be on both sides because they cannot kick us off the planet and we cannot kick them off the planet , one thing is for sure almost every single human being alive in the year 2012 , will be alive for a reason , Because i believe that nature will play a part in this whole episode i mean if the ground breaks open there is no where to drive a tank if the sky is filled with meteor storms fighter jets cannot fly , and i there is 10 feet of snow on the ground or an earthquake or a tsunami then what can anyone including the NWO do besides run for cover , , sorry man i kind of went into some spiritual zone but i kind of view this movement as somewhat of a spiritual movement i have seen many drum circles , and many different kinds of music , everywhere , but i hope the NWo does not have the power to do want is on their agenda because its a seriously dangerous one ,

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 12 years ago

Yeah, there are a lot of good people in this country despite the damage done over the years by TPTB. And they're waking up to the realities. There are also countless militia members who will side with us if and when the time comes. I don't mean the neo-nazi types or the psychos. I mean the ex-military men with plenty of training and firepower and they are firm believers in this country and the Constitution specifically. If shit were to hit the fan, we'd probably be shocked by the numbers that would come out of the woodwork to stand beside us. That alone gives me renewed hope.

[-] 0 points by thefutureisnow (223) from Newark, NJ 12 years ago

Yes brother these are some of the people that citizens who cannot defend their selves will rely on in the event of the deliberate breach of the constitution , and also hope faith these are very powerful words in a scene like this they carry much weight because they are more than just words and i believe in our country and do not think that it will fall as easily as some speculative wanna be,s think it will , I have friends and relatives who have been honorably discharged and i do not think they would agree either , but the positive side of this is that the federal Gov,t realizes this as well as we do , also the national defense act could be propagandized to appear more unconstitutional than it really is i am not saying that for sure because i do not know for sure i know what i have read and what i have seen sifting through news and media publications trying to make sense of it all i do not think it will even come to that because the rules in America are really fairly simple if you do not break any laws you do not get arrested , sure there is a lot of corruption and set ups and rights violations by different agencies but in the big picture i think there could be a kind of come to terms bill with some of these issues and the level headed politicians who are not corrupt may even say yea lets not dismantle America and just give it away to some other dictatorship or rule of law form another country , i really think the planets aligning has something to do with this whole issue even the most powerful Gov,t agencies on the planet cannot deny that the earth is about to spin off of its axis for the first time in a very very long time ,and there will be chaos on the planet even if it is not human induced , yes you make a very valid point of soldiers because i have also heard that active duty soldiers have certain rights and liberties that non active duty soldiers do not ,

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 12 years ago

In the three months OWS has officially been in existence, it has literally changed the political dialog in this country. Regardless of what the MSM says, we are very much a topic of conversation among the elite. Considering that politicians crave power, chances are by sometime next year some of them will see the writing on the wall and come around to our way of thinking. To do otherwise would amount to political suicide. And your comment about the earth spinning off its axis, do you mean the shifting of the magnetic poles?

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

agreed

[-] 0 points by thefutureisnow (223) from Newark, NJ 12 years ago

I am glad to find such signs on intelligence here i do not claim to be of high level intelligence but do have a much higher than normal IQ , i am glad to have these words with you , because every time i speak with someone who,s ideas are not tainted by propaganda it gives me a little more hope than i already had, thanks ,

[-] -1 points by pinker (586) 12 years ago

Well, then, some intellectuals better step up PDQ.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

i thought that is what we were doing

[-] -1 points by pinker (586) 12 years ago

blackbloc represents the intellectuals?

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

that is my moniker but i myself am considered an ny intellectual everywhere i go

[-] -1 points by pinker (586) 12 years ago

"AN" New York intellectual? We're doomed. Good night.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

how so ny is not a word so an is appropriate.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 12 years ago

An intellectual with a gun is a worthy ally.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

yes sir

[-] -1 points by pinker (586) 12 years ago

Hahahahaha. What a fucking hysterical exchange. Why tear down, destroy and hate one group, when you can just tear down, destroy and hate anything in your path? Don't worry, Lil Hit Girl, they're bound to knock out some windows of a few Jewish bankers. Then you'll both be happy.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 12 years ago

Hey, the HitGirl that you are responding to is posing. This one has a join date of of Dec. 13 2011.

The real HitGirl has this on her profile:

HitGirl I am a BIG Elizabeth Warren fan and Thom Hartmann acolyte. CSULB graduate. Currently employed. Hoping to help fight for change. Private Messages send message Information Joined Oct. 20, 2011

[-] -1 points by pinker (586) 12 years ago

I do now see there is a capital I instead of l.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

i don't hate a race, religion , or creed i hate the system and we are going to witness a glorious year in 2012 bet on it a year that will redefine history it is gonna be 1933, 1939, 1941, 1968 all rolled into one it is a great time to be alive

[-] -1 points by pinker (586) 12 years ago

If you actually are a member of blackbloc, we all saw you in the video shoving and hitting peaceful marchers outside whole foods. You're just violent assholes.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 12 years ago

you know black block is a tactic not a group right