Forum Post: OWS is not accomplishing what I thought it would
Posted 13 years ago on Dec. 13, 2011, 10 p.m. EST by HitGirI
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I have been a strong OWS supporter as everyone on this forum knows. But someone did point out to me that standing in a park with a sign that says "Occupy" is not going to stop the greed and corruption of the world. In fact I understand it is about as pointless as writing on my computer "Occupy." Am I just losing hope or what. We got some press coverage, but now nobody seems to care, we seem to be more of a joke about hippies than anything else. I was hoping maybe for socialistic revolution, when is this going to happen?
hey
I've been waiting a long time for this day. The thing is, this is just the beginning. It took about five years to get out of Nam. Some analysts have commented that next summer may look like 68.
It just may.
This is going to take time. Those with their hands on the levers of power took many years to cultivate their connections and get to where they are, they will not go easily.
we will have to fight tooth and nail.
tooth
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nail
Never surrender.
Hey, the HitGirl that you are responding to is posing. This one has a join date of of Dec. 13 2011. The real HitGirl has this on her profile: HitGirl I am a BIG Elizabeth Warren fan and Thom Hartmann acolyte. CSULB graduate. Currently employed. Hoping to help fight for change. Joined Oct. 20, 2011
duh
now I gotcha - the poser posted this forum post
that's why the comparison looked the same, because it is
so, do you have the real hitgirl's profile open?
Wrote a long response to a poser, wow I feel stupid.
I'll save those words for later.
I don't know about socialist revolution, but I do know that one of the spinoffs of the original movement is planning to set up a national GA and release a set of national demands (essentially our version of the Contract with America) at the height of the election season, and if the new Congress blows them off they're planning a Tea Party-esque organizing and fundraising drive to try to elect as many people as they can and scare the shit out of DC come 2014 and 2016.
Hey Girl, you have a fake trying to besmirch your name. Here's the link:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/beware-there-is-a-fake-hitgirl-out-there/
The Revolution has a new theme song!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L-GOHa5-YQ
http://occupywallst.org/forum/in-the-name-of-allah/
The Revolution starts here!
It will take years of sustained political action for real change to happen, but the amazing success in putting this issue on the political radar and starting dialog in a mere 3 months is pretty impressive.
Don't worry fake HitGirl, when Europe implodes, war starts in Syria, and the American economy finally gives up its last breath... it will start happening a lot faster.
The current track leads to a dead end, and no one is bothering to fix the problem so it can really only get worse.
it's hard to achieve something when you cant convince and persuade the people to understand you. That's the biggest OWS failure. So far the people are divided as how OWS helps them or not. The people turn their back on OWS, not even Wall St itself, but the people. If OWS could be something everyone agreed we needed, it would be unstoppable.
In America, never. That is not what we are about. If you still care about focusing on corruption, it has a purpose.
I hear you Something needs to happen. ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS.!!! It is past time to stand up and put this country back in the hands of people!!! Sad to say but until some blood is spilt then nothing is going to change. Right now the 1% and the government is just laughing at us. Just think a bunch of tripping hippies and pissed off african americans have more balls and got more things changed than people today. Everyone is scared to throw the first punch!! Also I mean NO disrespect to people who want to do things peacefully, but the truth is it's just not gonna cut the mustard. You should check out the news article I just posted, if you feel like throwing up!!
2 Words: False. Flag. Fuck off troll.
I hear you Something needs to happen. ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS.!!! It is past time to stand up and put this country back in the hands of people!!! Sad to say but until some blood is spilt then nothing is going to change. Right now the 1% and the government is just laughing at us. Just think a bunch of tripping hippies and pissed off african americans have more balls and got more things changed than people today. Everyone is scared to throw the first punch!! Also I mean NO disrespect to people who want to do things peacefully, but the truth is it's just not gonna cut the mustard. You should check out the news article I just posted, if you feel like throwing up!!
Well we got the support of Ben and Jerries and I saw an interview on TV with the Young Turks and a former lobbyists.
Nobody said things would change over night.
Hey, the HitGirl that you are responding to is posing. This one has a join date of of Dec. 13 2011. The real HitGirl has this on her profile: HitGirl I am a BIG Elizabeth Warren fan and Thom Hartmann acolyte. CSULB graduate. Currently employed. Hoping to help fight for change. Joined Oct. 20, 2011
lol okay
You need a time out. :/
A lot of people care. It is a question of stamina. Give up now and you give them what they want. Although, I doubt that there will be a "socialistic revolution". For a good long while the upper class has been able to shield itself and distance itself from the working class people. The problem is that this is not one specific group of people. And they cannot just play that off as much as they would like to. Further, the denial makes the United States look ridiculous in international politics.
I see a lot of people who care but i also see a lot of people who do not, And even though many people are creating forums and websites and marches and rallies i still do not see or hear anything about what this movement really needs , And that is to actually be heard in he house of representatives or at the very least the supreme court , Because we can speculate all we want and come up with the greatest solutions ever but none of them mean a damn thing unless they are actually put into motion within the proper legal channels and submitted , So why are we even here to have some intellectual chat room for grad students and investment bankers who are posing as OWS participants,
To hell with those Jewish capitalistic bankers. Chest Rockwell for president.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you had a problem with Jewish people.
Who do you think the 1% are seriously? They invented christ to keep all the non jewish people down. OWS has to start accepting the definition of the 1% is going to incluse almost all Jews
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You are a posing douchebag. You aren't the real deal. Go fuck yourself.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/capitalism-for-dummies/#comment-502243
I posted this 2 days ago and have been here since the start
HitGirl I am a BIG Elizabeth Warren fan and Thom Hartmann acolyte. CSULB graduate. Currently employed. Hoping to help fight for change.
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No. The above is the real hitgirl. With the above join date. Your join date is in fact Dec. 13 2011
You are a posing douchebag.
I am glad you finally see the error in your ways. If you could just wake up the few people left we could all go back to simply complaining about the weather.
Ae911truth.org will address your concerns. But you have to exercise intellectual courage. A skill not taught in formal education these days.
It's time to study up on the 1 out of 10 politicians who have morals and values, and vote out the rest of them. ALL OF THEM. Mobilize Nov.2012!!!
Yea you got it right but the people standing in the park are making money for people creating bank accounts for donations and assets from unsuspecting contributors who think they are actually helping out the people in the park with the signs , The real change will come when we actually have at least one piece of legislation to submit for amendments to the restrictions and bail outs of big business corporations and investment bankers who lose peoples money in the shady deals they make behind closed doors,
That hitgirl that you are responding to joined today. The real HitGirl (the one that started this thread) reads like this: HitGirl I am a BIG Elizabeth Warren fan and Thom Hartmann acolyte. CSULB graduate. Currently employed. Hoping to help fight for change. Information Joined Oct. 20, 2011 The fake HitGirl has a join date of Dec. 13 2011
Click on the user name to make sure that you are responding to the right one.
I seem to run into that sort of issue on a few different sites i have visited, People using other peoples user names so she is a copy cat hitgirl or imposter as we say ,
Yep. It is all together quite silly.
once it warms up it is gonna get crazy 2012 is gonna make 1968 look g-rated!!!!!
I want to drink the blood of every man woman and child 1%er rich banker hell yeah
you are an anti semite go fuck yourself
Hey the HitGirl that you are responding to is posing. This one has a join date of of Dec. 13 2011.
The real HitGirl has this on her profile:
HitGirl I am a BIG Elizabeth Warren fan and Thom Hartmann acolyte. CSULB graduate. Currently employed. Hoping to help fight for change. Private Messages send message Information Joined Oct. 20, 2011
the name is the same - or it looks like it when I copied and pasted both, and increased the font size, they look identical
but you can't have two profiles with the same name
so what gives?
the profiles are the same - no info now
looks like she got hacked
Yep. I was over at the thread http://occupywallst.org/forum/capitalism-for-dummies/#comment-502243 Blue Rose explained how it can be done.
is that explanation over there?
I mean, I know if you substitute a character it can work
there was a phishing expedition on myspace, where the url wasn't m it was rn - that's r n yspace
clever, looks the same
I'm a ding bat. The troll is using a capital I instead of an lowercase L.
ah, got it
I had found the real hitgirl's profile open for a sec and missed that
wait, here's the spelling of the poster for this forum post:
HitGirI
Damn, they're some sneaky bastards! They may be the enemy but I respect their cunning.
I am definitely a conservative, but I like the real HitGirl, not this Jew hating jerk hole imposter.
Agreed. The real HitGirl's a keeper. It's interesting that our 'opposition' chooses existing usernames instead of new ones. That's deviously clever. I like it though because it keeps us on our toes. It's a game of chess.
I don't go for that imposter bullshit. I don't give a damn if it's clever. I say it's damn evil. Sorry, it just pisses me off. Especially the Jew hating bullshit.
well this one has got to go
Thats not very nice
neither is this statement "To hell with those Jewish capitalistic bankers" that is anti semitic i am all for bringing down the system but jews are not the problem non intellectuals are the problem
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Non-intellectuals are the ones who still act like cave men.
this is really a struggle between the elite 1% and the intellectual 1%
But what about the elite intellectuals , I would say they may have the upper hand in the whole situation ,
ah yes the orchestraters of the new world order they are very dangerous indeed
Yes but now things are a bit different than they were when the NWO was created , seven billion people on the planet and that is just the known census ,they are not quite outspoken yet but for sure they are outnumbered , Now all we have to do is out wit them and find as many people as we can in federal Gov,t positions who are not war criminals and corrupt money and power mongers , i know right now it may seem like that is quite impossible but its not , And there may be more people than we know who are waiting for the right time to emerge in our favor and help us close the chapter of this wall st saga that has plagued our country and all the people in it for such a very long time ,
The so-called NWO's most powerful weapon is ignorance and apathy. People are waking up finally. There may still be time for us but it's fastly running out. There are indeed people in the military and federal government that don't agree with the concept of perpetual war and world domination and let's hope they side with the rest of us next year. We're gonna need them.
Actually you are on the right track there are many US, soldiers who have served their country and i really do not think that all of them would agree with the NWO , Yea especially soldiers like Sgt, Shamar Thomas , have you seen him backing down the NYPD in a righteous political outrage, i am quite sure there are many more soldiers like Mr Thomas , who do not agree even officers as well generals, i think the list of those who may refuse to entertain ideologies of the NWO , Is not as big as what i like to call big media wants us to believe, America is not as dead as everyone thinks , ,I really do not believe it there are just to many decent people i have seen them everyday i do not even have to look for them they are just there everywhere , I believe in America and i really hope there will be some kind of compromise even if it has to be on both sides because they cannot kick us off the planet and we cannot kick them off the planet , one thing is for sure almost every single human being alive in the year 2012 , will be alive for a reason , Because i believe that nature will play a part in this whole episode i mean if the ground breaks open there is no where to drive a tank if the sky is filled with meteor storms fighter jets cannot fly , and i there is 10 feet of snow on the ground or an earthquake or a tsunami then what can anyone including the NWO do besides run for cover , , sorry man i kind of went into some spiritual zone but i kind of view this movement as somewhat of a spiritual movement i have seen many drum circles , and many different kinds of music , everywhere , but i hope the NWo does not have the power to do want is on their agenda because its a seriously dangerous one ,
Yeah, there are a lot of good people in this country despite the damage done over the years by TPTB. And they're waking up to the realities. There are also countless militia members who will side with us if and when the time comes. I don't mean the neo-nazi types or the psychos. I mean the ex-military men with plenty of training and firepower and they are firm believers in this country and the Constitution specifically. If shit were to hit the fan, we'd probably be shocked by the numbers that would come out of the woodwork to stand beside us. That alone gives me renewed hope.
Yes brother these are some of the people that citizens who cannot defend their selves will rely on in the event of the deliberate breach of the constitution , and also hope faith these are very powerful words in a scene like this they carry much weight because they are more than just words and i believe in our country and do not think that it will fall as easily as some speculative wanna be,s think it will , I have friends and relatives who have been honorably discharged and i do not think they would agree either , but the positive side of this is that the federal Gov,t realizes this as well as we do , also the national defense act could be propagandized to appear more unconstitutional than it really is i am not saying that for sure because i do not know for sure i know what i have read and what i have seen sifting through news and media publications trying to make sense of it all i do not think it will even come to that because the rules in America are really fairly simple if you do not break any laws you do not get arrested , sure there is a lot of corruption and set ups and rights violations by different agencies but in the big picture i think there could be a kind of come to terms bill with some of these issues and the level headed politicians who are not corrupt may even say yea lets not dismantle America and just give it away to some other dictatorship or rule of law form another country , i really think the planets aligning has something to do with this whole issue even the most powerful Gov,t agencies on the planet cannot deny that the earth is about to spin off of its axis for the first time in a very very long time ,and there will be chaos on the planet even if it is not human induced , yes you make a very valid point of soldiers because i have also heard that active duty soldiers have certain rights and liberties that non active duty soldiers do not ,
In the three months OWS has officially been in existence, it has literally changed the political dialog in this country. Regardless of what the MSM says, we are very much a topic of conversation among the elite. Considering that politicians crave power, chances are by sometime next year some of them will see the writing on the wall and come around to our way of thinking. To do otherwise would amount to political suicide. And your comment about the earth spinning off its axis, do you mean the shifting of the magnetic poles?
agreed
I am glad to find such signs on intelligence here i do not claim to be of high level intelligence but do have a much higher than normal IQ , i am glad to have these words with you , because every time i speak with someone who,s ideas are not tainted by propaganda it gives me a little more hope than i already had, thanks ,
Well, then, some intellectuals better step up PDQ.
i thought that is what we were doing
blackbloc represents the intellectuals?
that is my moniker but i myself am considered an ny intellectual everywhere i go
"AN" New York intellectual? We're doomed. Good night.
how so ny is not a word so an is appropriate.
An intellectual with a gun is a worthy ally.
yes sir
Hahahahaha. What a fucking hysterical exchange. Why tear down, destroy and hate one group, when you can just tear down, destroy and hate anything in your path? Don't worry, Lil Hit Girl, they're bound to knock out some windows of a few Jewish bankers. Then you'll both be happy.
Hey, the HitGirl that you are responding to is posing. This one has a join date of of Dec. 13 2011.
The real HitGirl has this on her profile:
HitGirl I am a BIG Elizabeth Warren fan and Thom Hartmann acolyte. CSULB graduate. Currently employed. Hoping to help fight for change. Private Messages send message Information Joined Oct. 20, 2011
I do now see there is a capital I instead of l.
i don't hate a race, religion , or creed i hate the system and we are going to witness a glorious year in 2012 bet on it a year that will redefine history it is gonna be 1933, 1939, 1941, 1968 all rolled into one it is a great time to be alive
If you actually are a member of blackbloc, we all saw you in the video shoving and hitting peaceful marchers outside whole foods. You're just violent assholes.
you know black block is a tactic not a group right