Forum Post: ows is doing pretty well without me
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 2, 2011, 9:38 p.m. EST by buik2
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sometimes i think, hey this is a pretty cool social movement maybe i should get involved.
but then i realize i am pretty happy with my life as it is, and plus, there numerous people far more adept than myself at this protest type shit, so i will just watch it and see what happens...
see, on here, its like "read this link educate yourself, etc etc." but when it comes down to it, fuck that shit, i just want to watch this thing from the sidelines and see what happens. i got too much to do already; i got a list a mile long and plus, it might cut into my nap time.
can i get a GOTdam witness on this?
this movement is going to change the world- be a part of it - maybe a small part?- many years from now you will want to tell people that you were involved with ows. that you helped make the world a better place.+++training web page http://tinyurl.com/7rvpv43
maybe a small part. i have to go past occupy baltimore on tuesday and was thinking about rollin a blunt for those guys... i dont want to get anyone in trouble, tho. i guess we can take it off-site. that might be as far as i am willing to go for now, but if i were there, i'd certainly welcome a blunt-toting cyclist. i dont know that they are still there, but i think they are
i do respect what they are doing, and actually i think the movement has already changed the world. i think it will continue to grow in scope. i hope they dont get more involved in the political machine tho- that would ruin it for me. i am pretty sure this is about as far as a capitalistic representative democracy can go; i think that the current situation is the apex which is pretty sad i guess
There's no need for you. Even the protestors are at the sidelines. They want what people have wanted ever since the caveman with fire ate good while the one without had to worry about being attacked by animals. The "education" they offer is biased and can't be trusted. This is as involved as I plan to get, because they have no vision, no endgame, and now they have resolved to squatting in foreclosed homes to get their point across. Do your list, and take your nap. At the end of the day, you will be miles ahead of the majority of these people
i kind of like how they piss people like you off. thats my favorite part : )
we use the Nonviolent -direct action struggle model- we demonstration / occupy in a way that will cause them to react. these are our tools- we drive them nuts+++++++
nonviolent protest & persuasion 198 of them
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198 Methods of Nonviolent Action. Practitioners of nonviolent struggle have an entire arsenal of "nonviolent weapons" at their disposal. Listed below are 198 of them, classified into three broad categories: nonviolent protest and persuasion, noncooperation (social, economic, and political), and nonviolent intervention. A description and historical examples of each can be found in volume two of The Politics of Nonviolent Action by Gene Sharp.
The Methods of Nonviolent Protest and Persuasion
Formal Statements
Communications with a Wider Audience
Group Representations
Symbolic Public Acts
Pressures on Individuals
Drama and Music
Processions
Honoring the Dead
Public Assemblies
Withdrawal and Renunciation
Ostracism of Persons
Noncooperation with Social Events, Customs, and Institutions
Withdrawal from the Social System
Actions by Consumers
Action by Workers and Producers
Action by Middlemen
Action by Owners and Management
Action by Holders of Financial Resources
Action by Governments
Symbolic Strikes
Agricultural Strikes
Strikes by Special Groups
Ordinary Industrial Strikes
Restricted Strikes
Multi-Industry Strikes
Combination of Strikes and Economic Closures
Rejection of Authority
Citizens’ Noncooperation with Government
Citizens’ Alternatives to Obedience
Action by Government Personnel
Domestic Governmental Action
International Governmental Action
Psychological Intervention
Physical Intervention
Social Intervention
Economic Intervention
Political Intervention
199: walking around with your dick hanging out?
: )
I'm not pissed about anything. Personally, I want to understand what this whole thing is supposed be about and how they are supposed bring about change. Most of the "big corps" aren't even based in the US anymore. Wall St. is just that anymore. A street. I'm broke as a joke, and take personal responsibilty for what I do with my life. Will I blame the rich or the government for my personal financial problems?? Hell to the no. At the end of the day, YOU are responsible for what happens to you.
lol yeh right buddy
yeah, I know I'm right. You want to sit on the sidelines until the tide turns, and then what, jump in and pretend like you were there the whole time?? I was supporting your view in your original post. There is no reason to get involved, because if you step back, and see what these people are saying, you'll realize, at the end of the day, the majority have nothing to say outside of spouting the rhetoric the guy/girl before them spouted. If there was a plan in place I promise you, I wouldn't be saying what I am. I could give this whole thing more credibility. But there isn't. People are getting paid to protest, you don't see a problem with that??
The U.N. has been sitting back and watching things unfold as well. Currently, a U.N. envoy is drafting a letter to our government regarding criticism of the U.S. government and support of the Occupy movement. Perhaps you may wish to look a little deeper into the meaning behind the movement. Or, perhaps you believe that you have information that the U.N. has over looked?
I can draft my own letters. It doesn't mean that anything will happen. How many other countries with real problems criticize their government?? What does the UN do for them?? Gaddafi was a good example. When the guns were drawn and people started rooting out the problem through violence, they sat there and watched till things got too hot and sent in NATO forces. The meaning I have found-feel free to correct me if I'm wrong is: 1 People are sick of the super rich being super rich 2 People are sick of the banks taking money and blowing it on CEOs massive bonuses 3 The rift between the wealthy and the poor is getting larger every day and that's not good- which it isn't But this whole thing is starting to remind me of the Underpants Gnomes episode of South Park(follow me here if you've never seen it) where they show the kids how they are gonna make big money: Step 1: Protest Step 2: ???? Step 3: change. I know step 2 is the hardest, but so far all I hear is people regurgitating the same thing over and over. I guess I'm looking for an idea where there is none. At least not yet.
You lost me at SouthPark. I find it to be irritating potty-humor. Anyways, OWS has gotten people talking, organizing and participating in OUR democracy. As an example, if you look at the work being done regarding the Citizen's United ruling, you'll see that there's a good chance that an ammendment will be made to nullify that ruling. Did OWS do this directly? No, not directly. But, they were the first group of people to loudly shout, "The Emperor has no clothing!"
It may be irritating potty humor, but if you look at what some(not all) of the episodes actually have to say, you'll see real messages about what the writers feel about what is happening in this country. I don't see anyone in government saying anything about getting at the rich. If anything, many of the rich have come out to say that the high times are over and they should contribute more than they do. Did OWS do this?? Maybe, maybe not. And no they were not the first to let everyone know the rich are running the poor into the street.