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Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 21, 2011, 4:01 a.m. EST by Betty27 (13)
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"The official Occupy Wall Street Method for dealing with dissenters: Divert, Deny, Denigrate. Never answer any question directly. Our survival depends on following this method." Now why is that?

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[-] 1 points by Betty27 (13) 13 years ago

bannik3111 points 12 minutes ago Alright King Pupa, it is bed time. I've work in the morning. 1percenter4life0 points 1 hour ago I get paid to be a troll..650 a week! FIGHT TO HOLD WALLSTREET

[-] 1 points by Betty27 (13) 13 years ago

bannik3111 points 46 minutes ago Call them on it in a civil way, if they create a thread that contributes nothing except trolling, get them to elaborate their views. Most of them are too narcissistic not reply to a post in their own thread. At some point they must break character. happy1 points 30 minutes ago Good idea.. thanks.... savethe991 points 1 hour ago Very reasonable advice. ................................. http://www.savethe99.com/default.htm Moving3China0 points 1 hour ago No. The official Occupy Wall Street Method for dealing with dissenters: Divert, Deny, Denigrate. Or answer any question directly. Our survival depends on following this method. bannik3112 points 60 minutes ago I'll add another word for you disingenuous. There is no official method, nobody voted you as my spokesperson. The survival of this movement is about being inclusive and moving the political discussion away from extremists from either end. Each dissenter is a 99%er. They just haven't found the common ground yet and it is up to us to reach out and help them find it. Moving3China0 points 57 minutes ago I made myself the movement's official Secretary of Information and Propaganda. I love a movement without leadership. Everyone can be whatever they want. Choose your title now before it is all gone. replypermalink bannik3111 points 45 minutes ago Ok I made myself the movement's official Secretary of Information and Propaganda. replypermalink Moving3China1 points 42 minutes ago Too late. replypermalink bannik3112 points 23 minutes ago Says who? Fine I'll make myself the movement's official committee n appointing the Secretary of Information and Propaganda. Guess what our first motion is! I agree totally, if you talk to a majority of the people on the street they're extremely proud to be from the USA and an idea like that would never fly (i freaking love puns) A few people joke about moving to Canada but they're never serious. They would be back the first time they saw a bag of milk (seriously, what is up with that) If protestors didn't love this country they wouldn't be so passionate about trying to make it better. Freebird1 points 42 minutes ago Define troll. huemanoun1 points 44 minutes ago do people that call them "trolls" even know why they are called trolls? replypermalink bannik3111 points 42 minutes ago Is it because they get a bonus to strength and are able to regenerate limbs? happy1 points 1 hour ago A troll is a troll is a troll... if you recognize that they are one I don't think any amount of niceties (or anger for that matter) is going to change their mind... would just ignoring them be a better tactic? Have you tried reasoning with some of them? It's next to impossible, no matter how you approach them they go into tirades.... bannik3111 points 1 hour ago I've actually have reasoned with several quite successfully. If every person you have a discussion with goes into tirades, perhaps you need to work on that happy1 points 57 minutes ago Well, I do keep my replies civil and actually haven't "lost" it with any of them. Well maybe a little sarcasm with a couple of really nasty characters,.;) But the ones that I have encountered aren't here to listen to anyone... they were obviously here to create a distraction, bannik3111 points 46 minutes ago Call them on it in a civil way, if they create a thread that contributes nothing except trolling, get them to elaborate their views. Most of them are too narcissistic not reply to a post in their own thread. At some point they must break character. happy1 points 30 minutes ago Good idea.. thanks.... savethe991 points 1 hour ago Very reasonable advice.://www.savethe99.com/default.htm Moving3China0 points 1 hour ago No. The official Occupy Wall Street Method for dealing with dissenters: eny, Denigrate. Never answer any question directly. Our survival depends on following this method. bannik3112 points 60 minutes ago I'll add another word for you disingenuous. There is no official method, nobody voted you as my spokesperson. The survival of this movement is about being inclusive and moving the political discussion away from extremists from either end. Each dissenter is a 99%er. They just haven't found the common ground yet and it is up to us to reach out and help them find it. Moving3China0 points 57 minutes ago I made myself the movement's official Secretary of Information and Propaganda. I love a movement without leadership. Everyone can be whatever they want. Choose your title now before it is all gone. bannik3111 points 45 minutes ago Ok I made myself the movement's official Secretary of Information and Propaganda. Moving3China1 points 42 minutes ago Too late. bannik3112 points 23 minutes ago Says who? Fine I'll make myself the movement's official committee on appointing the Secretary of Information and Propaganda. Guess what our first motion is! Moving3China1 points 21 minutes ago FIne. I am now the King Pupa of OWS HR -- You're fired. Oops, did Trump copyright that?

[-] 1 points by Betty27 (13) 13 years ago

bannik3111 points 46 minutes ago Call them on it in a civil way, if they create a thread that contributes nothing except trolling, get them to elaborate their views. Most of them are too narcissistic not reply to a post in their own thread. At some point they must break character. happy1 points 30 minutes ago Good idea.. thanks.... savethe991 points 1 hour ago Very reasonable advice. ................................. http://www.savethe99.com/default.htm Moving3China0 points 1 hour ago No. The official Occupy Wall Street Method for dealing with dissenters: Divert, Deny, Denigrate. Or answer any question directly. Our survival depends on following this method. bannik3112 points 60 minutes ago I'll add another word for you disingenuous. There is no official method, nobody voted you as my spokesperson. The survival of this movement is about being inclusive and moving the political discussion away from extremists from either end. Each dissenter is a 99%er. They just haven't found the common ground yet and it is up to us to reach out and help them find it. Moving3China0 points 57 minutes ago I made myself the movement's official Secretary of Information and Propaganda. I love a movement without leadership. Everyone can be whatever they want. Choose your title now before it is all gone. replypermalink bannik3111 points 45 minutes ago Ok I made myself the movement's official Secretary of Information and Propaganda. replypermalink Moving3China1 points 42 minutes ago Too late. replypermalink bannik3112 points 23 minutes ago Says who? Fine I'll make myself the movement's official committee n appointing the Secretary of Information and Propaganda. Guess what our first motion is! I agree totally, if you talk to a majority of the people on the street they're extremely proud to be from the USA and an idea like that would never fly (i freaking love puns) A few people joke about moving to Canada but they're never serious. They would be back the first time they saw a bag of milk (seriously, what is up with that) If protestors didn't love this country they wouldn't be so passionate about trying to make it better. Freebird1 points 42 minutes ago Define troll. huemanoun1 points 44 minutes ago do people that call them "trolls" even know why they are called trolls? replypermalink bannik3111 points 42 minutes ago Is it because they get a bonus to strength and are able to regenerate limbs?

[-] 1 points by Betty27 (13) 13 years ago

The survival of this movement ground yet and it is up to us to reach out and help them find it. Moving3China0 points 57 minutes ago I made myself the movement's official Secretary of Information and Propaganda. I love a movement without leadership. Everyone can be whatever they want. Choose your title now before it is all gone. bannik3111 points 45 minutes ago Ok I made myself the movement's official Secretary of Information and Propaganda. Moving3China1 points 42 minutes ago Too late. bannik3112 points 23 minutes ago Says who? Fine I'll make myself the movement's official committee on appointing the Secretary of Information and Propaganda. Guess what our first motion is! Moving3China1 points 21 minutes ago FIne. I am now the King Pupa of OWS HR -- You're fired. Oops, did Trump copyright that? bannik3111 points 12 minutes ago Alright King Pupa, it is bed time. I've work in the morning. 1percenter4life0 points 1 hour ago I get paid to be a troll..650 a week! FIGHT TO HOLD WALLSTREET ACCOUNTABLE NOW! make a difference and get paid! http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/gov/2618821815.html divebum10 points 1 hour ago I agree totally, if you talk to a majority of the people on the street they're extremely proud to be from the USA and an idea like that would never fly (i freaking love puns) A few people joke about moving to Canada but they're never serious. They would be back the first time they saw a bag of milk (seriously, what is up with that) If protestors didn't love this country they wouldn't be so passionate about trying to make it better. Freebird1 points 42 minutes ago Define troll. huemanoun1 points 44 minutes ago do people that call them "trolls" even know why they are called trolls? bannik3111 points 42 minutes ago Is it because they get a bonus to strength and are able to regenerate limbs? happy1 points 1 hour ago A troll is a troll is a troll... if you recognize that they are one I don't think any amount of niceties (or anger for that matter) is going to change their mind... would just ignoring them be a better tactic? Have you tried reasoning with some of them? It's next to impossible, no matter how you approach them they go into tirades.... bannik3111 points 1 hour ago I've actually have reasoned with several quite successfully. If every person you have a discussion with goes into tirades, perhaps you need to work on that happy1 points 57 minutes ago do keep my replies civil and actually haven't "lost" it with any of them. Well maybe a little sarcasm with a couple of really nasty characters,.;) But the ones that I have encountered aren't here to listen to anyone... they were obviously here to create a distraction,

[-] 1 points by Betty27 (13) 13 years ago

is about being inclusive and moving the political discussion away from extremists from either hour ago I get paid to be a troll..650 a week! FIGHT TO HOLD WALLSTREEbannik3111 points 37 minutes ago I agree totally, if you talk to a majority of the people on the street they're extremely proud to be from the USA and an idea like that would never fly (i freaking love puns) A few people joke about moving to Canada but they're never serious. They would be back the first time they saw a bag of milk (seriously, what is up with that) If protestors didn't love this country they wouldn't be so passionate about trying to make it better. Freebird1 points 42 minutes ago Define troll. huemanoun1 points 44 minutes ago do people that call them "trolls" even know why they are called trolls? bannik3111 points 42 minutes ago Is it because they get a bonus to strength and are able to regenerate limbs? happy1 points 1 hour ago A troll is a troll is a troll... if you recognize that they are one I don't think any amount of niceties (or anger for that matter) is going to change their mind... would just ignoring them be a better tactic? Have you tried reasoning with some of them? It's next to impossible, no matter how you approach them they go into tirades.... bannik3111 points 1 hour ago I've actually have reasoned with several quite successfully. If every person you have a discussion with goes into tirades, perhaps you need to work on that happy1 points 57 minutes ago well, I do keep my replies civil and actually haven't "lost" it with any of them. Well maybe a little sarcasm with a couple of really nasty characters,.;) But the ones that I have encountered aren't here to listen to anyone... they were obviously here to create a distraction, bannik3111 points 46 minutes ago Call them on it in a civil way, if they create a thread that contributes nothing except trolling, get them to elaborate their views. Most of them are too narcissistic not reply to a post in their own thread. At some point they must break character. happy1 points 30 minutes ago Good idea.. thanks.... savethe991 points 1 hour ago Very reasonable advice. ................................. http://www.savethe99.com/default.htm Moving3China0 points 1 hour ago No. The official Occupy Wall Street Method for dealing with dissenters: Divert, Deny, Denigrate. Never answer any question directly. Our survival depends on following this method. bannik3112 points 60 minutes ago I'll add another word for you disingenuous. There is no official method, nobody voted you as my spokesperson. end. Each dissenter is a 99%er. They just haven't found the common 1percenter4life0 points 1

[-] 1 points by Betty27 (13) 13 years ago

(or anger for that matter) is going to change their mind... would just ignoring them be a better tactic? Have you tried reasoning with some of them? It's next to impossible, no matter how you approach them they go into tirades.... bannik3111 points 1 hour ago I've actually have reasoned with several quite successfully. If every person you have a discussion with goes into tirades, perhaps you need to work on that happy1 points 57 minutes ago Well, I do keep my replies civil and actually haven't "lost" it with any of them. Well maybe a little sarcasm with a couple of really nasty characters,.;) But the ones that I have encountered aren't here to listen to anyone... they were obviously here to create a distraction, bannik3111 points 46 minutes ago Call them on it in a civil way, if they create a thread that contributes nothing except trolling, get them to elaborate their views. Most of them are too narcissistic not reply to a post in their own thread. At some point they must break character. happy1 points 30 minutes ago Good idea.. thanks.... savethe991 points 1 hour ago Very reasonable advice.://www.savethe99.com/default.htm Moving3China0 points 1 hour ago No. The official Occupy Wall Street Method for dealing with dissenters: eny, Denigrate. Never answer any question directly. Our survival depends on following this method. bannik3112 points 60 minutes ago I'll add another word for you disingenuous. There is no official method, nobody voted you as my spokesperson. The survival of this movement is about being inclusive and moving the political discussion away from extremists from either end. Each dissenter is a 99%er. They just haven't found the common ground yet and it is up to us to reach out and help them find it. Moving3China0 points 57 minutes ago I made myself the movement's official Secretary of Information and Propaganda. I love a movement without leadership. Everyone can be whatever they want. Choose your title now before it is all gone. bannik3111 points 45 minutes ago Ok I made myself the movement's official Secretary of Information and Propaganda. Moving3China1 points 42 minutes ago Too late. bannik3112 points 23 minutes ago Says who? Fine I'll make myself the movement's official committee on appointing the Secretary of Information and Propaganda. Guess what our first motion is! Moving3China1 points 21 minutes ago FIne. I am now the King Pupa of OWS HR -- You're fired. Oops, did Trump copyright that? bannik3111 points 12 minutes ago Alright King Pupa, it is bed time. I've work in the morning.

[-] 1 points by Betty27 (13) 13 years ago

them to elaborate their views. Most of them are too narcissistic not reply to a post in their own thread. At some point they must break character. happy1 points 30 minutes ago Good idea.. thanks.... savethe991 points 1 hour ago Very reasonable advice. ................................. http://www.savethe99.com/default.htm Moving3China0 points 1 hour ago No. The official Occupy Wall Street Method for dealing with dissenters: Divert, Deny, Denigrate. Or answer any question directly. Our survival depends on following this method. bannik3112 points 60 minutes ago I'll add another word for you disingenuous. There is no official method, nobody voted you as my spokesperson. The survival of this movement is about being inclusive and moving the political discussion away from extremists from either end. Each dissenter is a 99%er. They just haven't found the common ground yet and it is up to us to reach out and help them find it. Moving3China0 points 57 minutes ago I made myself the movement's official Secretary of Information and Propaganda. I love a movement without leadership. Everyone can be whatever they want. Choose your title now before it is all gone. replypermalink bannik3111 points 45 minutes ago Ok I made myself the movement's official Secretary of Information and Propaganda. replypermalink Moving3China1 points 42 minutes ago Too late. replypermalink bannik3112 points 23 minutes ago Says who? Fine I'll make myself the movement's official committee n appointing the Secretary of Information and Propaganda. Guess what our first motion is! I agree totally, if you talk to a majority of the people on the street they're extremely proud to be from the USA and an idea like that would never fly (i freaking love puns) A few people joke about moving to Canada but they're never serious. They would be back the first time they saw a bag of milk (seriously, what is up with that) If protestors didn't love this country they wouldn't be so passionate about trying to make it better. Freebird1 points 42 minutes ago Define troll. huemanoun1 points 44 minutes ago do people that call them "trolls" even know why they are called trolls? replypermalink bannik3111 points 42 minutes ago Is it because they get a bonus to strength and are able to regenerate limbs? happy1 points 1 hour ago A troll is a troll is a troll... if you recognize that they are one I don't think any amount of niceties

[-] 1 points by Betty27 (13) 13 years ago

bannik3111 points 37 minutes ago I agree totally, if you talk to a majority of the people on the street they're extremely proud to be from the USA and an idea like that would never fly (i freaking love puns) A few people joke about moving to Canada but they're never serious. They would be back the first time they saw a bag of milk (seriously, what is up with that) If protestors didn't love this country they wouldn't be so passionate about trying to make it better. Freebird1 points 42 minutes ago Define troll. huemanoun1 points 44 minutes ago do people that call them "trolls" even know why they are called trolls? bannik3111 points 42 minutes ago Is it because they get a bonus to strength and are able to regenerate limbs? happy1 points 1 hour ago A troll is a troll is a troll... if you recognize that they are one I don't think any amount of niceties (or anger for that matter) is going to change their mind... would just ignoring them be a better tactic? Have you tried reasoning with some of them? It's next to impossible, no matter how you approach them they go into tirades.... bannik3111 points 1 hour ago I've actually have reasoned with several quite successfully. If every person you have a discussion with goes into tirades, perhaps you need to work on that happy1 points 57 minutes ago well, I do keep my replies civil and actually haven't "lost" it with any of them. Well maybe a little sarcasm with a couple of really nasty characters,.;) But the ones that I have encountered aren't here to listen to anyone... they were obviously here to create a distraction, bannik3111 points 46 minutes ago Call them on it in a civil way, if they create a thread that contributes nothing except trolling, get them to elaborate their views. Most of them are too narcissistic not reply to a post in their own thread. At some point they must break character. happy1 points 30 minutes ago Good idea.. thanks.... savethe991 points 1 hour ago Very reasonable advice. ................................. http://www.savethe99.com/default.htm Moving3China0 points 1 hour ago No. The official Occupy Wall Street Method for dealing with dissenters: Divert, Deny, Denigrate. Never answer any question directly. Our survival depends on following this method. bannik3112 points 60 minutes ago I'll add another word for you disingenuous. There is no official method, nobody voted you as my spokesperson. The survival of this movement is about being inclusive and moving the political discussion away from extremists from either end. Each dissenter is a 99%er. They just haven't found the common ground yet and it is up to us to reach out and help them find it. Moving3China0 points 57 minutes ago

[-] 1 points by Betty27 (13) 13 years ago

bannik3111 points 37 minutes ago I agree totally, if you talk to a majority of the people on the street they're extremely proud to be from the USA and an idea like that would never fly (i freaking love puns) A few people joke about moving to Canada but they're never serious. They would be back the first time they saw a bag of milk (seriously, what is up with that) If protestors didn't love this country they wouldn't be so passionate about trying to make it better. Freebird1 points 42 minutes ago Define troll. huemanoun1 points 44 minutes ago do people that call them "trolls" even know why they are called trolls? bannik3111 points 42 minutes ago Is it because they get a bonus to strength and are able to regenerate limbs? happy1 points 1 hour ago A troll is a troll is a troll... if you recognize that they are one I don't think any amount of niceties (or anger for that matter) is going to change their mind... would just ignoring them be a better tactic? Have you tried reasoning with some of them? It's next to impossible, no matter how you approach them they go into tirades.... bannik3111 points 1 hour ago I've actually have reasoned with several quite successfully. If every person you have a discussion with goes into tirades, perhaps you need to work on that happy1 points 57 minutes ago well, I do keep my replies civil and actually haven't "lost" it with any of them. Well maybe a little sarcasm with a couple of really nasty characters,.;) But the ones that I have encountered aren't here to listen to anyone... they were obviously here to create a distraction, bannik3111 points 46 minutes ago Call them on it in a civil way, if they create a thread that contributes nothing except trolling, get them to elaborate their views. Most of them are too narcissistic not reply to a post in their own thread. At some point they must break character. happy1 points 30 minutes ago Good idea.. thanks.... savethe991 points 1 hour ago Very reasonable advice. ................................. http://www.savethe99.com/default.htm Moving3China0 points 1 hour ago No. The official Occupy Wall Street Method for dealing with dissenters: Divert, Deny, Denigrate. Never answer any question directly. Our survival depends on following this method. bannik3112 points 60 minutes ago I'll add another word for you disingenuous. There is no official method, nobody voted you as my spokesperson. The survival of this movement is about being inclusive and moving the political discussion away from extremists from either end. Each dissenter is a 99%er. They just haven't found the common ground yet and it is up to us to reach out and help them find it. Moving3China0 points 57 minutes ago

[-] 1 points by mutualminds (129) 13 years ago

"American democracy is being altered by Alinsky's ideas," Why not break away from old useless thoughts. Let's take Eckhart Tolle's advice and break away from our ego's and unite as one.

Ego is a part of life. Recognizing it and being aware of it helps dissolve it.

Many peoples ego seems to be a very selfish one that blames others and can't take ownership for your own actions. Very Republican, I'm surprised more people haven't defame God and thrown God Christian values into all this to achieve our ego's agenda. I've been very involved with the IAM Union when they represented the mechanics at Northwest Airlines. Yes greed and people's ego's ruined what they had. But the union was still needed to protect the public from maintenance short cuts and holding the company responsible for public safety.

The self realization of who you are as an individual is what's at question here. Are you a human being having a spiritual experience as fear based organized religions want you to believe. Or are you a spiritual being having a human experience? there is a difference. What's your self-realization to bring out the grandest of who you are? Do you remember yourself as all love? If your a part of God (you can't get around it) you are all love. Many people just don't remember themselves that way anymore. That is why I set up a website for "Finding Your Own (Damn) Way Home" I've found my equal to God status as all love. Many others should try it also. Here's my site; www.equaltogod.com

As Shakespeare said; "Nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so."

Michael,

[-] 1 points by Betty27 (13) 13 years ago

You FAIL.

[-] 1 points by Betty27 (13) 13 years ago

All you guys sleeping under the tarps...get a good listen here....divert...deny....denigrate. Do you know what denigrate means?

[-] 0 points by asauti (-113) from Port Orchard, WA 13 years ago

I can give you the definitions:

1. to speak damagingly of; criticize in a derogatory manner; sully; defame: to denigrate someone's character. 2. to treat or represent as lacking in value or importance; belittle; disparage: to denigrate someone's contributions to a project. 3. to make black; blacken: rain clouds denigrating the sky.

Now, that you ask that, and I have given you the accepted definitions, you have peaked my curiosity: Why do you ask?