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Posted 11 years ago on April 9, 2013, 2:11 p.m. EST by bensdad (8977)
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a 4 year old NJ child finds a 22 rifle under the bed and shoots a neighbor's 6 year old child

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[-] 2 points by LeoYo (5909) 11 years ago

Two 4-year-olds, two guns, two tragic shootings

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/09/17671333-two-4-year-olds-two-guns-two-tragic-shootings?lite

By Daniel Arkin, Staff Writer, NBC News

Four-year-old boys in different states were involved in two separate shooting incidents in the last four days, with tragic results.

On Saturday, a Tennessee boy discharged a pistol at a sheriff's deputy's wife, killing her instantly. On Monday, a New Jersey boy left a 6-year-old neighbor in serious condition after a rifle fired at his head.

The Tennessee incident occurred during a family cookout at the home of Josephine and Daniel Fanning. He's a sheriff's deputy in Wilson County.

Deputy Fanning, 51, was in his bedroom showing his collection of weapons to a relative around 7:00 p.m. Saturday, when Josephine, 48, and the 4-year-old came into the room. The young boy grabbed a loaded handgun sitting on the bed and fired it once, striking and killing the deputy’s wife, according to Tennessee Bureau of Investigations spokeswoman Kristin Helm. She was pronounced dead at the scene.

The incident appears to be an accident and no one has been charged, but the investigation is still open, according to Helm.

“It’s a sad, sad set of circumstances,” Sheriff Robert Bryan told NBC affiliate WSMV in Nashville. "Nobody is immune to this. Nobody. It doesn't matter if you are a law enforcement officer. These things can happen in second."

The 4-year-old is a relative of the deputy and his late wife, WSMV reported. The weapon used by the 4-year-old boy was not Deputy Fanning’s service weapon.

Another tragic incident took place in New Jersey on Monday evening, when a 4-year-old boy accidentally shot a 6-year-old neighbor with a rifle he found in his parents’ home.

Police said the two boys were playing with a .22-caliber rifle outside the 4-year-old’s home in Toms River, N.J., when around 7:00 p.m. the gun discharged and struck the 6-year-old in the head, NBCNewYork.com reported.

The 4-year-old's parents reportedly heard the shot and called 911.

According to NBCNewYork.com, the 6-year-old is in serious condition at Jersey Shore Medical Center. An investigation is ongoing.

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 11 years ago

wayne held a press conference a few minutes ago
"We must arm our six year olds"

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[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 11 years ago

It is EVERYONE'S negligence -
for not enacting legislation that could reduce this kind of tragedy.
Penalty for having a gun ( not being used )
without an installed gun lock $10,000

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 11 years ago

breaking news-
we need more guns in texas-
maniac assaults 14
all have survived
needless to say,
the weapon was NOT a gun

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[-] 2 points by LeoYo (5909) 11 years ago

13 dead, including a baby, after house-to-house shooting spree in Serbian village

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/09/17666022-13-dead-including-a-baby-after-house-to-house-shooting-spree-in-serbian-village?lite

A man in a small village outside Belgrade, Serbia went door to door, gunning down 13 people including his own son, six women and one baby. The man tried to kill himself and his wife but they survived and are gravely wounded.

By Alastair Jamieson, Staff writer, NBC News

A 60-year-old man fatally shot 13 people, including a baby, in a house-to-house rampage in a quiet village in Serbia Tuesday, before trying to kill himself and his wife.

The gunman, identified by police as Ljubisa Bogdanovic - a former soldier and veteran of the early-1990s regional conflict– was in a critical condition in hospital along with his wife, Javorak, police told reporters.

Serbian police official Milorad Veljovic said the victims included 6 women, 6 men and a two-year-old boy, according to Serbian news site Press Online and other reports.

The shooter came from a “quiet family” and had no criminal record, Veljovic said. “We'll see what the motive is for this gruesome murder, we're all just stunned,” he told reporters.

Marko Djurica / Reuters

A policeman stands guard in the village of Velika Ivanca, Serbia, on Tuesday.

Bogdanovic had lost his job last year, Veljovic said according to Reuters, and had a firearms permit for his CZ88 pistol, according to Press Online and Novosti.

"We have never seen a tragedy like this in Serbia, and for that reason a motive must be ascertained - what prompted this man to kill so many people in their sleep," Veljovic added, according to news site B92.

'Good neighbor'

Residents of the village of Velika Ivanca, 30 miles southeast of the capital Belgrade, said Bogdanovic first killed his son, before leaving the house and shooting his neighbors, some of whom were still asleep.

"He knocked on the doors, and as they were opened he just fired a shot," villager Radovan Radosavljevic told The Associated Press. "He was a good neighbor and anyone would open their doors to him. I don't know what happened."

The killings occurred between 5 a.m. and 5:30 a.m local time (11 p.m. to 11.30 p.m. ET Monday), the AP said.

Nada Macura, an official at the Belgrade hospital in Belgrade where the two were being treated, told the AP that Bogdanovic had no history of mental illness. However, Kostadinovic's wife Stanica said the man's father had hanged himself when he was a young boy and his uncle had a history of mental illness.

The AP added:

Although such apparently random shootings are rare in Serbia, weapons are readily available mostly from the regional conflicts that tore through the Balkans in the 1990s and there is a tradition of possessing firearms.

The last similar shooting spree happened in Serbia in 2007 when a 39-year-old man gunned down nine people and injured two in a village in the east of the country.

Bogdanovic served as Serbian army soldier in the war in Croatia that began in 1991 and lasted until 1995, Reuters reported.

[-] 0 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 11 years ago

what was the weapon?

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 11 years ago

a box cutter or knife
its a crime that the 14 victims did not have their AR15s handy
there would have been fewer victims
and fewer innocent bystanders

[-] 1 points by DebtNEUTRALITYpetition (647) 11 years ago

Why is that so much more important than the 10 million children who are forced to move because of corrupt foreclosure practices, and I think it is safe to say that at least a few thousand end up dying because of unsafe conditions that then result.