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Forum Post: One of the primary reasons that it is over for America is because women are taking over,

Posted 11 years ago on Aug. 23, 2012, 2:48 p.m. EST by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY
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Thus says Tea Party Honcho The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson (NOT ME)


"I think that one of the greatest mistakes that America made was to allow women the opportunity to vote. We should’ve never turned it over to women."

August 22, 2012, 9:49 PM466 Comments All the Single Ladies By CHARLES M. BLOW The noxious “legitimate rape” comment by Todd Akin, Missouri congressman and Senate candidate, has me once again pondering a simple question: Why do any women vote Republican?

The Republican establishment rushed in to pressure Akin to drop out of the race — something that he refused to do — in part because they want to win the seat, win control of the Senate and win Missouri for Romney. A SurveyUSA poll earlier this month — before “legitimate rape” — found Romney and Obama in a statistical tie in the state.

But as The New York Times pointed out Wednesday:

As a legislator, Mr. Akin has a record on abortion that is largely indistinguishable from those of most of his Republican House colleagues, who have viewed restricting abortion rights as one of their top priorities. In fact, as this story reverberated through the public discourse, the Republican National Committee’s platform committee passed what one committee member told the Washington Times “appears to be the most conservative platform in modern history.” Among other things, it calls for a “human life amendment” with no exemption for rape or incest and praises “informed consent” laws.

Republicans are worried about the political fallout from Akin’s comment, though.

Rush Limbaugh, who famously called the former Georgetown law student and women’s birth control advocate Sandra Fluke a “slut,” said that Akin’s comment was “stupid” before adding:

I’ve seen all of the things that you’ve seen, people telling him he should go. He needs to get out for the good of the party, for the good of the country, for the good of the presidential campaign, and we gotta defeat Obama. I agree with that, by the way. I think there are a lot of things here larger than single individuals.

Sandra Fluke introduced President Obama at a campaign event in Denver on Wednesday. That’s the point. As the former governor of Alaska put it: “take one for the team.” (That’s right, I’m still not using her name. You can’t make me.)

The Republican Party already has a problem with women voters and can’t afford to make it worse by having them focus on this issue. And that deficit is among single women, not married ones.

As Shaila Dewan pointed out in The New York Times earlier this month:

Single women are one of the country’s fastest-growing demographic groups — there are 1.8 million more now than just two years ago. They make up a quarter of the voting-age population nationally, and even more in several swing states, including Nevada. And though they lean Democratic — in a recent New York Times/CBS News poll, single women favored Mr. Obama over his Republican rival, Mitt Romney, by 29 points — they are also fickle about casting their ballots, preoccupied with making ends meet and alienated from a political system they say is increasingly deaf to their concerns. On the one hand, the Republican establishment wants to battle the perception that the party is waging a war on women — which it is — by claiming that women’s economic interests are separate and distinct from their health interests. But that’s a false argument for many women because the two, particularly when it comes to reproductive control, are inextricably intertwined. Children dramatically affect one’s financial bottom line.

Self-sufficiency is tied up in self-determination. Family planning is essential to career planning. This is particularly true for single women.

On the other hand, there are those on the fringe of the party who are less beholden to the establishment and constrained by convention. They air the party’s frustration with these single women voters and don’t try to disguise their disdain.

Earlier this month, the rhetorical bomb-thrower and media-monger Ann Coulter commented on the influence of Sandra Fluke in a Fox News interview:

I think it’s probably a good sign that Obama is so desperate just to get the base Democratic voter — stupid, single women — to vote for him. Then, in another Fox interview, Coulter, speaking this time about Republicans wooing the women’s vote, said:

Ronald Reagan managed to win two landslides without winning the women’s vote, but it is as you say, it’s striking, it’s not the women’s vote generically, it is the single women’s vote. And that’s because single women look to the government to be their husbands and give them, you know, prenatal care, and preschool care, and kindergarten care, and school lunches. The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson — who has made a number of appearances on Fox News, founded a Tea Party group in California and is also the founder of a group called BOND (Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny) — recently gave a speech (I hope it wasn’t a sermon), in which he said:

One of the primary reasons that it is over for America is because women are taking over, women are taking over, they’re in high so-called powerful position, they’re now running companies, they’re making decisions. He then pointed out that he was not referring to all women:

The are some, a few out there that are logical women and can make sound decisions, but most cannot. He prattled on nonsensically for a while, adding that “women cannot handle power, it’s not in them to handle power in the right way” and “women have been degraded, women are now degraded, they have no shame.”

I’m getting upset just transcribing this, so let me just get to the meat of it. Here’s the part of his speech I wanted you to see:

I think that one of the greatest mistakes that America made was to allow women the opportunity to vote. We should’ve never turned it over to women. Why? Because “they’re voting in people who are evil.”

Now, on BOND’s website, both Sean Hannity and Dennis Prager, another conservative radio host, are listed as members of BOND’s advisory board. The Web site attributes the following endorsement to Hannity:

BOND has played an instrumental role in helping young men and women build lives which will help inspire the next generation. BOND continues to fight the good fight standing for the values of God, family, and country, and are deserving of our support. And it attributes an endorsement to Prager that reads in part:

Whatever the issue, Jesse seeks truth and speaks with courage. Even on the few matters that I may not entirely agree with Jesse, he forces me to think a second and third time. He is so morally grounded and fearless that when we differ, my first reaction is to ask myself, ‘Where did I go wrong?’ This brings me back to my original question: why do women vote Republican? Even if you are personally pro-life you don’t have to be universally anti-choice. This is the party that attacks reproductive rights and limits women’s health options — which has the effect of limiting women’s economic liberty — and whose proxies on the radio and TV openly show disdain for women, especially those not hitched to a man.

Even if you’re married now, you weren’t always. You too were once a single lady.



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[-] 1 points by JohnWa (513) 11 years ago

We can be divided Male against female - and we are divided.

The 1% rule when we are divided and will encourage division as much as possible.

We have to unite against the barrier to a fairer society and break the 1% rule and all they stand for.

Social and cultural freedom from the repressive rule of the 1% and their patent psychopathic greed.

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 11 years ago

What does that mean? Give in to Akin and friends? Clear this up. Where is this "unity" going to come from? Who gives in to have this "unity?"

[-] 1 points by JohnWa (513) 11 years ago

I don't see it as a matter of giving in but one of pressing for the biggest priorities.

That doesn't need to mean ignoring other important things we need for fairness and a better distribution of opportunity.

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 11 years ago

Well I am opposed to "trickle down" even if it means "trickle down" from the white 99ers to the black 99ers. The whole point is the black 99ers need guarantees they won't be sold out by the white ones. Is that a difficult thing to grasp? Same for women's reproductive freedom. They frankly should be able to enjoy sex the same as men can with the same level of concern about the aftermath.

[-] 2 points by JohnWa (513) 11 years ago

I agreed with you.

There are many things wrong with the system , laws and rule of the 1%.

The worst aspect I see is the mind control that one group have successfully managed over several generation but more recently in a ruthless manner dividing the population deeply on many issues.

Racism in many forms is endemic as is ignorance about simple events like global warming , 911 demolition of 3 WTCs, invasion of dozens of countries by the US and slaughter of more than 6 million women, men and children, drone attacks on civilians, trillions spent on unnecessary war machines and armaments when there is no enemy nor anyone attacking.

The US has become the biggest terror organisation the world has ever known yet we read and see "patriotism" being interpreted as supporting the slaughter and stripping of countries for the 1% private interests.

The body bags concern them not but they use death of US soldiers and another opportunity to increase blind hate against the foe , who may be people trying to defend their own country against US invasion including rape and torture.

Why does the public accept the lies and propaganda - because they are kept ignorant and their minds are controlled by the media who are owned by a very small group controlling power money and minds. Look through the names of Bankers, media boards, megawealth holders and you will see an alarming pattern of who they are.

Fear propagated and lies told about "enemies" and "threats" are swallowed by the ignorant US public and lapped up by the rednecks many of whom have been taught prejudice consistently throughout their lives. Without prejudice to fall back on they have problems thinking their way through the lies they are fed.

We have some sources of better information about events and the criminal world of the 1% parasites and warmongers. The internet is one of our lifelines to a ranged of opinions and some very good information. That life line is coming under threat increasingly.

Sometimes what you learn is unsettlingly and may not tell you what you would like to here.

Truth is consistent to an open mind.

Lies can be consistent to a closed mind selecting only what they want to believe or that approved by their "handlers".

That is an important challenge for us all as individuals.

Politician lie profusely.

There are big issues and how we change our system of Govt to give better information and some small hope of a democracy are the very fundamental issues.

Unless our political system is changed then hope for a fairer society and also some intelligent planning of peace and social justice will not take place.

We need our protest efforts to be effective in educating people and revolt against the 1% mind and information control.

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 11 years ago

No argument here.