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Forum Post: oh no! horrors of horrors! dastardly MSM!

Posted 5 years ago on Dec. 15, 2012, 9:40 a.m. EST by ericweiss (575)
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oh no! horrors of horrors! dastardly MSM! UP with Chris Hayes - MSM's MSNBC show just mentioned OWS is a leader in the anti-gun movement
damn that MSM - nothing but lies



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[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 5 years ago

I saw that .............. and turned off the TV !! They've got a lot of power. It works and people listen. Thanx and good post!


[-] 1 points by trashyharry (3082) from Waterville, NY 5 years ago

Who controls the US Government? That information is not merely"unknown,"it is SUPERUNKNOWN.No way are gun owners going to go along quietly with bans on guns or changes in gun laws.Lots of people who have had their permits revoked have simply become owners of illegal weapons.Also,the US could actually be described as a Sea of Guns,legal and illegal.Even a large scale confiscation of guns from people who have permits would be like bailing the Atlantic Ocean with a teaspoon.In fact,any attempt to forceably disarm Americans who are not narcos would be violently resisted.Who controls the US Government?Inquiring minds WANT TO KNOW.

[-] 1 points by ericweiss (575) 5 years ago

of course it is known - it is controlled by the owners

[-] 1 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 5 years ago

The owners are those that "create money out of thin air."

It’s the Interest, Stupid!

Why Bankers Rule the World

Ellen Brown November 3, 2012


In the 2012 edition of Occupy Money released last week, Professor Margrit Kennedy writes that a stunning 35% to 40% of everything we buy goes to interest. This interest goes to bankers, financiers, and bondholders, who take a 35% to 40% cut of our GDP. That helps explain how wealth is systematically transferred from Main Street to Wall Street. The rich get progressively richer at the expense of the poor, not just because of “Wall Street greed” but because of the inexorable mathematics of our private banking system.

This hidden tribute to the banks will come as a surprise to most people, who think that if they pay their credit card bills on time and don’t take out loans, they aren’t paying interest. This, says Dr. Kennedy, is not true. Tradesmen, suppliers, wholesalers and retailers all along the chain of production rely on credit to pay their bills. They must pay for labor and materials before they have a product to sell and before the end buyer pays for the product 90 days later. Each supplier in the chain adds interest to its production costs, which are passed on to the ultimate consumer. Dr. Kennedy cites interest charges ranging from 12% for garbage collection, to 38% for drinking water, to 77% for rent in public housing in her native Germany.

Her figures are drawn from the research of economist Helmut Creutz, writing in German and interpreting Bundesbank publications. They apply to the expenditures of German households for everyday goods and services in 2006; but similar figures are seen in financial sector profits in the United States, where they composed a whopping 35% of U.S. business profits in 2006. That was five times the 7% made by the banking sector in 1980. Bank assets, financial profits, interest, and debt have all been growing exponentially.

MOVE YOUR banking to publicly owned CREDIT UNIONS !


[-] 0 points by trashyharry (3082) from Waterville, NY 5 years ago

Well,I know exactly who you mean.The Owners are evil parasites who desire to kill as many of us as possible any way they can and turn whoever is left into a slave.Under those circumstances,we must remain armed,even if resistance means certain death.As long as the gun nuts keep on doing what they are doing,The Owners are prevented from directing the puppet Obama from declaring martial law.The Owners are getting ready to shove some serious austerity down our throats.I guess they are not as confident about success as they would like to appear.

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 5 years ago

That's not true, we're pro U.S. Constitution and pro Bill of Rights.

[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 5 years ago

the regulation of fire arms is more than compatible with the constitution and the bill of rights. to say it is not is asinine.

[-] 0 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 5 years ago

We should reopen the mental hospitals for the paranoid schizophrenic, the psychotic and the psychopathic.

If you want to marginalize OWS simply go against the 2nd Amendment. Can you say "become irrelevant"?

[-] 1 points by ericweiss (575) 5 years ago

some people at OWS are spending their time trying to create an alternate currency
one of OWS's big failures is concentaring on the impossible -
and the rediculous

[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 5 years ago

what is irrelevant is the rhetoric from the likes of you. it is over. public opinion has changed. after yesterday you can no longer rationalize the use of semi automatic weapons. sorry you didn't get the memo.

[-] 0 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 5 years ago

You mean this memo, "Could shooting be a gun-control tipping point?" http://news.yahoo.com/could-shooting-gun-control-tipping-point-140902422--politics.html ?

It seems you got the memo beforehand, it's amazing how on-the-same-page you folks are, the Prez even shed a tear (non-bogus of course).

Incidentally you are confusing two separate meanings of semi-automatic. Semi-automatic here refers to the shooter's hunting rifle (which I haven't heard he used anyway) which simply means it reloads automatically after each shot, not that it is capable of being a burst firing (again semi-automatic) machine gun. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_firearm

[-] 0 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 5 years ago

i have confused nothing. assault rifles do not fire in bursts. i can go buy an ar-15 right now and it does not fire bursts. you are an idiot.

[-] 0 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 5 years ago

Then it's just like a hunting rifle and not an assault rifle at all.

[-] 2 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 5 years ago

except they self load and can use and extended clip. they provide immense fire power to whom ever possesses one.



[-] -1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 5 years ago

Since when does MSM set the narrative for Occupy? You think we're all just so desperate for attention that we will hand over the narrative to MSM? Tell us how you really feel about Occupy.. oops, you just did.