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Forum Post: OccupyWallSt.Org -- security broken -- google bomb using my account

Posted 8 years ago on May 20, 2012, 11:07 a.m. EST by OccNoVi (415)
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This is a typical item from google that appear in response to a query with terms [ romney avenging angels site:occupywallst.org ]

Forum Post: WE Party Committee's moving forward - Next stop ... occupywallst.org/.../we-party-committees-moving-forward-next-stop... 3 posts - 2 authors - Nov 3, 2011 Avenging Angel -- traditional title for extralegal vigilantes. Mitt Romney and Orrin Porter Rockwell ? 0 comments 6 hours ago by OccNoVi ...

The link goes here:


When you get there, there's no such comment. As a guess, this OccNoVi account was taken over by someone with Administrator privileges, opened up for a program/bot to use for entry of more than 100 faked entries.

Then the bogus comments were erased after google indexed them. It's flat-out sabotage.

The subject matter retains interest. Did Mitt Romney accept membership in his community's Avenging Angels group? Did that happen when he was 16 which is a typical age for the beginning of membership?

Having google flooded with bogus entries makes it much more difficult for interested parties to find substantive discussion of this topic.

One additional anomaly: a google search with this argument [ romney ballot law commission site:occupywallst.org ] returns a very old page-image link.

Forum Post: Romney Tax Returns '98-'01 -- Perjury, Fraud & the ... occupywallst.org/.../romney-tax-returns-2002-2004-utah-38000-frau... 12 posts - 5 authors - May 7 When Mitt Romney ran for governor in 2002, he swore under oath that he had been a resident of Massachusetts for the constitutionally required ...

In the most recent update to this page, the link found 56 comments.

One additional test comment was added to that posting today. We'll see how this goes.

-At least the front page is back up for occupywallst.org. That's a good change.-

Front page is dead again. Why am I not surprised?



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[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 8 years ago

The older postings on this forum are being updated on google.

We'll see what is going on. This scheme posted comments to 130 items at this forum, then deleted them after google ran its indexing system.

Google [ romney avenging angels site:occupywallst.org ] now turns in a total count of 95 hits. Of these, all but three are bot-generated trash.

[-] 0 points by ClaraSprings (91) 8 years ago

Conspiracy theory mumbo jumbo

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 8 years ago

Sorry, but this evidence speaks for itself.

These 119 original-count comments were entered using this OccNoVi account and, almost certainly, a bot. They were left in place long enough to make the google scan of the site.

The google updating system is not updating its indexes. Recent count was 95 comments.

Them's the facts.




[-] -1 points by JoeWinters (47) 8 years ago

There's no Google bomb using your account. You don't know what you're talking about.

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 8 years ago

A total of 119 bogus entries were made. These appear as comments to postings going back as far as October 2011. Earlier today the count was in the 130s.

These google-bomb excretions were deleted after being indexed on google. The google search makes it look like the connection between Romney and the Avenging Angel vigilante group look like a bot-driven flood at this site.

Why the perp decided to erase the comments is unclear. Maybe to make it harder to find ISP sourcing ???

The lists have been stored, of course. A subset of the info:



















These droppings were made electronically. The admin account swapped out the password long enough to make these comment droppings, then restored the password.

Unix does that for root by way of the shells.

Root doesn't need to know a password to swap one out.

[-] 1 points by francismjenkins (3713) 8 years ago

I mean, it's certainly plausible to think some misguided conservative groups are spamming this site, but if OWS wants to maintain a public forum (which I think is certainly an excellent idea), then to a certain degree, this sort of thing is unavoidable. Obviously reasonable efforts should be made to get rid of spam, but beyond that ... I'm confident that most OWS supporters won't be influenced by this sort of thing. However, it's worth considering legal action wherever possible and feasible (assuming these claims can really be established, and a cause of action exists). Of course it's also possible that accusations of spam is itself spam?

[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 8 years ago

Just beware that the enemies of OWS are not amateurs.

America has enough wack-job inherited-wealth paranoid billionaires to fill your neighborhood McDonalds to overflowing.

There's no such thing as civil legal action for spam where it falls short of a DOS attack. These attacks, where limited and carried out with simple bots, are protected speech. However sabotage using an infiltrator and obtaining a root password is a crime.

Thing is, OWS doesn't do security.

The cartoon ostrich has a cuz.