Posted 5 years ago on Jan. 1, 2012, 12:44 p.m. EST by A3Admin
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The notion of "Freedom of Religion" in relation to the Constitution comes from the First Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion". Most people believe that the first amendment "guarantees" the right to FREEDOM OF RELIGION. The problem is, people have a grossly idealized image of the word "freedom". They believe such a thing can actually exist. IT CAN'T. Read that again. Our "idealized" notion of FREEDOM can not exist! As soon as one human wants to do something another does not want to do, and they have to do it in the same place, freedom goes out the window. As soon as one religion establishes a "thou shalt" which does not agree with a "thou shalt NOT" of another religion in the same location, the possibility of freedom in society breaks down.
For example, if members of religion "A" believe all other people who do not believe religion "A" doctrines are "heathens" and must be killed, then there is NO possibility of Freedom for anyone as long as there is one other religion in their vicinity. Or, if members of religion "A" believe that ALL people in a society must say one of THEIR prayers to THEIR god every day, or the people of religion "A" will be subject to punishment from THEIR god, then freedom is again lost for any part of the society not in their clan. This is a VERY big problem. Why? Because our country is home to over a THOUSAND religious doctrines! And most of those doctrines don't tolerate other beliefs!
I've also heard it stated many times, "can't each person just keep their religion to themselves?" This sounds reasonable at first. But again, it falls apart in practice. The reason is, most religious beliefs REQUIRE "social action" in some form. So people might hold some beliefs inside their heads. But any of those beliefs that require social action create a conflict with others who don't hold the same beliefs.
Now bring in the PROBLEM of religious moderates. Right, I used the word "problem". Religious moderates, while helping to reduce violence and conflict, also create a large CREDIBILITY problem for religion. In order to reduce violence, they have to either deny some of the passages in their doctrines or bend the meanings so much that using logic to understand the doctrines becomes meaningless.
To be sure, religious freedom is a very serious and difficult problem.
The goal of this discussion page is to get ideas from people about how they think "freedom of religion" can be LOGICALLY achieved? The approach in the Constitution is an obvious failure. One way I've approached this exercise is to imagine being a ruler, who has no personal religious belief, but has the responsibility to try to maintain peace among a thousand different religions. ( Which of course is the actual problem the Constitution was supposed to solve. )
(This post is part of a collection of posts aimed at launching a new process called the National Opinion Collection System (NOCS). For more information on the process, see http://occupywallst.org/forum/occupytheconstitution-introduction/ )