Forum Post: Occupy's Rap Sheet . Today you hit 213 incidents
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 8, 2011, 12:49 a.m. EST by angelofmercy
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"over 75 incidents of sexual assault, violence, vandalism, anti-Semitism, extortion, perversion, and lawlessness."
http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/10/28/occupywallstreet-the-rap-sheet-so-far/
When the 1% gives the U.S. government back to the people, the trouble will stop.
Is that your justification for everything listed ? I don't think the 1% has anything to do with that.
This is junk. There are plenty of valid arguments you can make against OWS, I do it every day. But this post? It's truly trolling.
I looked at this list, the majority of it is non-violent in nature. Feeding flags to dogs, kids using curse words... fodder.
Make a real point or get out of here. I'm sick of seeing your name all over every page pertaining to this I go to. You're obnoxious.
If you don't like what I have to say , don't read it. :)
Most of those aren't crimes. A fair number of them are but things like:
10/15/2011 — #OccupyPortland Protesters Sing “F* The USA”
that added as padding.
They're bad, but the term "Rap Sheet" is used to invoke crime and a lot of these aren't.
I think the term rap sheet is used as the over all list of incidents that may or may not make the news.
I wonder how many illegal acts were committed by wall street bankers in the same time frame. I will venture to say that were quite a few more if u were going to to strictly by the book
one of the "incidences" is an article featuring the protesters using restrooms without buying anything first. "They use the bathrooms and they don't even buy coffee first". I tried to follow some of the more disturbing links and couldn't find anything substantial.
I would look again.
Saw yesterday in the news. Occupy DC , pushed a elderly woman down some stairs.I don't know if it was added to their list yet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xgcRlrt2ZL4
Yeah but you have to remember that it's New York... where they already have a huge crime problem in comparison to other cities... and Zuccotti park is open to everyone... which includes non-OWS people. Think about how many trolls come to this website to hate on people? Now imagine that the same level of hatred walks down to that park to cause problems.
This is for the whole movement. Not Just NY. If you would have taken the time to go read he link you would know this.
Yeah but there's been zero acts of violence and problems in my city. So far we have had 3 arrests for people sitting down holding signs on public property at 4am. If it had been 6am they would have been fine.
Also most of what you listed IS NOT ANYTHING like you made it out to be. Did you read your own link that you posted?
My first comment makes sense because most of the 75 incidents were in NY and it also applies to all cities. We have 2 communists people always trying to hand out communist pamphlets... yet NONE of the rest of us want communism.
Good for you on no problems
Yes I read the link , and many of the links with in it. I was compiling my own list before this one came out.
"75 incidents were in NY and it also applies to all cities" It is a list of incidents with the movement. How hard is this to understand? Did I , or anyone else say all cities? So far there are 167 incidents racked up by those with the Occupy movement. And Seems there is a new one that get added everyday.
Before I came to check this , I saw 2 stories. http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/11/07/socal-street-cart-vendors-hurting-after-occupy-group-splatters-blood-urine/
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/occupiers_terrorize_us_eatery_o4dKzxi3n03WyJWAJu4AhO
Just a few days ago. Was this story . http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/11/06/occupymcdonalds-protester-turns-violent-when-denied-free-food/
And this one From Occupy London http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2058172/St-Pauls-staff-having-clean-human-waste-INSIDE-cathedral-protestors-use-latrine.html#ixzz1d3dwe2Td
The truth about protesters supposed "riots" in Oakland and the distortion put upon you by the media.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqoFR1MPSH0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Occupy is a non-violent, non-destructive, and peaceful protest. Anyone doing otherwise is not a member of Occupy.
If they are with you , then they are apart of you. The public , or media don't really see the difference. The movement has allowed all walks of life to be apart of it. From socialist , communist , and anarchist. If you allow them to march with you , then they are apart of you and the movement.
By the way , I think all of the protesters need to look up the word peaceful. Yelling , using bull horns , pounding on drums , blocking road ways , is not peaceful by any means. And using peaceful as another word as non violent. Don't work either. That went out the window when just one march that was with the Occupy movement got violent. Why do I say this ? Because . On this site they post Stand in Solidarity with Occupy Oakland. http://occupywallst.org/article/ows-takes-streets-solidarity-occupyoakland/
Which means Unity or agreement of feeling or action, esp. among individuals with a common interest; mutual support within a group. That also mean support what ever violence that came from it on the protester behalf. Rather then condemning it here , and on my other Occupy web sites. Ohh and one last thing on the Oakland thing. Shutting down a port. Is considered as a terrorist act. Because they are trying to harm the US Economy . It also doesn't not make any sense at all with this movement. If these people truly loved the US , and wanted more for it's people , it would not try to hurt it , or even it's people.
There is some food for your thoughts , but I doubt you , or any other protesters will read this and understand it. As it seems most of you have been brain washed into hating America.
Yes but Occupy is open to anyone who wants to participate in their peaceful protest. Because Occupy is a peaceful protest and everyone is welcome to join the peaceful protest.
I read your post. I see the point you're trying to make, and if Occupy wasn't a peaceful protest open to anyone wanting to join in the peaceful protest, I'd agree with you. But since it is an act of peaceful protest, I can't agree with you. Some people are taking advantage of the "Welcome" aspect and they're using it in an attempt to hijack the movement. Kind of like how the .00001% have hijacked capitalism.
Peace prevails. Destruction fails.
Sounds like fun..wish I were there..Only 75 incidents? That's nothing..I go through at least 75 incidents a day, just being married...
I would re read about the 75 incidents.
Civil disobedience is a right.
Why should we trust this reactionary site?
You don't have to trust it , do your own research.
If a crazy man came up to you on the street and said that the end was coming because the rogue planet Nibiru was on an intercept course with the Earth, because the Government was putting giant magnets in space to this end, would you actually have to bother researching it or would you just discount him as a crazy?
But let's say I did do my research, and checked out the sites he's referencing. Disreputable trash for the most part, tabloids and such, with a spattering of mainstream news. But didn't the author say that the Mainstream media (or MSM as he likes to abbreviate it) gave disproportionate coverage to the crimes that occurred at Tea Party rallies? Then, by his own logic, can he really cite the MSM as a source?
Look you if don't like the source , then get off your butt and find other sources. The site isn't MSM, The incidents are sent in by e-mail. Which can be traced back to reliable sources , or actual youtube videos posted by protesters , supporters , and everyday people. Rather then taking the time to write out off your nonsense , if you don't like what I have posted , don't read it , don't reply to it. Have a wonderful day. :)
Everyone seems to forget that the people in the OWS movement are humans. Instead of fixating on "incidents" that in no way represent the movement as a whole, why don't we focus on addressing the failing economy and the dismal state of the job market? That is OWS's concern, but it appears to me that we're more than a little hung up on smear campaigns. It's the "birther effect."
"that in no way represent the movement as a whole"
Every incident that happens that is related to occupy movement , does represent the movement. Even if you disagree.
Sometimes there are hired instigators used to discredit a movement. It has been done before and might just be being done again. Maybe, just maybe, these incidents are caused by special interests that wish to bring this movement down. Just a thought.
Yeah I don't think someone was paid to rape someone just to discredit "The Movement"
Was the kitchen worker paid to sexually abuse a woman , and rape another at Zuccotti Park?
Who do you think is down in the occupy encampments most of the time? Is it the people who have the cushy jobs? Or is it the people who have no homes, and have no job.
These people are the most desperate in our society. They are the lowest of the lower class. All societies are judged on their lowest class. If you judge them, you judge yourself.
It's easy to throw stones when you're living an easy life created by the misery of the people you throw stones at.
Some of these people are/was being paid to protest. I would say that is a cushy job.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/06/organizer-admits-to-paying-occupy-dc-protesters-video/
OccupyChicago paid volunteer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iDqqObYS2kU
http://news.yahoo.com/occupy-wall-street-protesters-being-paid-114000623.html
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/10/help-wanted.php
Collateral damage, Is that not what are gov't would call it. We are trying to win the hearts and minds of our politicians.
"We are trying to win the hearts and minds of our politicians."
lol I think it's being done all wrong. Rape , pimping , selling drugs , peeing on cop cars , and pooping on residents door steps is not the way you go about "Winning Hearts and Minds" of anyone.
Frankly, Occupy should have addressed these problems a long time ago. A month and a half ago. They will never be able to stop stupid people attaching themselves to the movement, but they can - and must - mitigate it.
Their cause is just, but they need to admit that it does not justify everything. There's no legitimized body that can denounce and disown this stuff. There's no infrastructure in place to stop it. And there's no push from any leadership to encourage and inspire people to act better - on the contrary, the voices that do speak up are tacitly encouraging people to behave however they want.
I don't think even then it would have mattered.
Of course it does. First, teaching people how to focus their anger is fundamental to organization of dissent. It - like everything else - requires training. Second, actively working against this kind of stupidity is what legitimizes disowning it. Just saying "this is not us!" is not enough.
Don't get me wrong, I understand what you're saying. Even with perfectly organized leadership, there will still be stupidity. And as long as there's stupidity, there will be people who insist on trying to pin it to the movement as a whole as a (logically incoherent, but somehow still compelling) way to discredit the movement's cause. The issue here is not perfection. The issue is how effectively Occupy - or any organization - can combat stupidity.
Shit, all of that happened at once 75 times?
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Keep it up. Arm yourselves OWSers. That's the next logical step.
I think you maybe be right.
http://www.businessinsider.com/occupy-seattle-protesters-surround-jp-morgan-ceo-jamie-dimons-hotel-attempting-citizen-arrest-2011-11
What a bunch of ass pirates.
Yea..one of these occupy people stole my shoe.
A shoe ?
Yes..just one..It's a cruel joke to steal just one shoe..If you'll notice next time your see a homeless person on the subway, there's a good chance he's missing a shoe. Everybody knows this..There is this guy on IRT #6 in the city hall station:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_Hall_(IRT_Lexington_Avenue_Line)
He is one of those guys stealing our shoes and tries to sell them back to us... But since no one has any money, what most do is just steal some one else's shoe..
That's what probably happened to me, but I figured I'd blame that on OWS...and before you ask, yes I have an iPad.
I guess this has been a learning experience for you. Better sleep with your ipad down your pants , and duct tape your shoes to your feet so no one can take them while you are sleeping.
Sorry but I have to laugh at this whole shoe thing. At what point when it keeps happening , do you say enough is enough ?
There is always someone sleeping/passed out in the subway tunnels..Shortly after my initial shoe loss, I jumped the turnstile and got another shoe..it never stops because there's always someone without a shoe and no money and we aren't going to pay the guy @ city hall.
If you ever get caught homeless..NYC transit is the place to be! I've got electricity down here and everything..You just have to get over the steel dust, urine smell, and the occasional little friend..But I'm living rent free!.
Now if you want some good stuff go to the old "train to the plane" under the F line...you can get some good cronic down there..