Forum Post: Occupy Miami eviction is happening right now
Posted 12 years ago on Jan. 31, 2012, 7:52 p.m. EST by TechJunkie
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Occupy Miami stays past sunset deadline
The tent city started by Occupy Miami outside the government center will be evicted at sunset Tuesday, occupants have been told. Some residents of the camp, which started October 15, were packing to leave Tuesday afternoon, while others vowed to stay.
The sun had set, but dozens of people remained Tuesday at the downtown location of Occupy Miami — despite warnings from county officials that anyone who stayed passed sunset would be arrested.
Thought many people at the site, on a lawn near the Stephen P. Clark Government Center, had taken down their tents, some people remained Tuesday afternoon.
And after the sun set, the group appeared to grow. Video live streamed by Occupy Miami showed what looked like an impromptu gathering with drums, protest signs and blaring Bob Marley music.
Miami-Dade County officials said the protestors had to leave their place near the government center because the weekly permit that allowed Occupy Miami to stay on a lawn near the Stephen P. Clark Center was not renewed. Anyone who stayed past the deadline might be arrested.
In a statement, county leaders said the permit’s latest weekly renewal was denied because unsanitary conditions and safety issues.
“The Victorian Sunshine Corporation’s permit to use the West Lawn at the Stephen P. Clark Center was denied based on the unsanitary site conditions and unsafe activities, which have resulted in a number of arrests by the Miami-Dade Police Department,” said the statement from Miami-Dade spokeswoman Suzy Trutie.
“The safety of those at the site as well as the safety of County employees and residents and visitors to the Stephen P. Clark Center is our top priority.”
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/01/31/2617628/county-occupy-miami-must-leave.html
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Occupy Miami has been dispersed.
good riddance to the pestilent unsanitary squatters of the public commons......a great day for the working members of society....
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Good put them on a boat to Cuba, has everything that they are looking for.
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-----Original Message----- From: VVV PR [mailto:vvvpr@vvvpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:01 PM To: 'OccupyMiamiNow@Gmail.com'; 'general@occupymia.org'; 'press@occupymia.org' Subject: Heads Up to Occupy Miami: Please Forward
Heads Up to Occupy Miami: Please Forward
The rent-a-cops at Bryant Security are offering their services as hired muscle to evict you:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/31/bryant-security-occupy-miami_n_1244826.html
Here is their website and contact info:
Bryant Security 16840 N.E. 19th Ave. North Miami Beach, FL 33162 Phone: 305-948-0100 Fax: 305-948-0131 info@bryantsecurity.com
Agency License # B-8500267
http://bryantsecurity.com/contact-us-now
The company principals:
http://realpages.com/sites/salessamples/sites/bryantsecurity/page4.html
Making their information available makes it much easier to thank them.
you really don't belong here
Elsewhere you have claimed to be the mental patient starring in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuctdBycnSo
I accept your claim, and discount your comments accordingly.
Round Here
Crazy
Four Seasons in One Day
Elsewhere you have claimed to be D. Winter of Burlington Vermont:
http://zendogblog.net/
And if this is your blog, your issues are not political.
Elsewhere you have claimed to be the mental patient starring in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuctdBycnSo
I accept your claim, and discount your comments accordingly.
Make You Crazy
Round Here
Crazy
Four Seasons in One Day
Elsewhere you have claimed to be D. Winter of Burlington Vermont:
http://zendogblog.net/
And if this is your blog, your issues are not political.
Can't You See
Crimes of War
Is this not Political?
Or this?
Or this?
Elsewhere you have claimed to be the mental patient starring in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuctdBycnSo
I accept your claim, and discount your comments accordingly.
Make You Crazy
Round Here
Crazy
Four Seasons in One Day
Elsewhere you have claimed to be D. Winter of Burlington Vermont:
http://zendogblog.net/
And if this is your blog, your issues are not political.
Make You Crazy
Round Here
Crazy
Four Seasons in One Day
Elsewhere you have claimed to be the mental patient starring in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuctdBycnSo
I accept your claim, and discount your comments accordingly.
Oh, and, here's a page from a Professor of Meteorology at Pennsylvania State University that explains how the atmosphere works in really simple to understand terms. The FAQ link at the bottom of the page is great too.
http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/BadGreenhouse.html
(I'm too lazy to go back and find the link in which you and I were engaged in a debate about global warming)
there is not much to debate -
It's about 48 F here in Vermont right now.
And NBC reported last night:
Are you taking an elitist point of view and telling me where I do and do not belong? Are you discriminating against me because I'm different than you are? Believe different things? Think differently?
Because if this movement is ONLY for people who think like you do, and act like you do, and believe as you do-then it's a discriminatory organization AND it will fail because it will never appeal to the majority of US citizens-who DO NOT think like you do, act like you do, or believe as you do.
Most of the kids who started this Movement do not act or believe as I do - yet I do support the movement. The dire need for change is quite unmistakable.
You've made it clear you do not support the movement or many of its core points of contention. Therefore it is clear you are only here to foment dissent within the forum, distract and dismay those who do support efforts to promote change.
Therefore I say you have no place here.
It's my opinion. I'll stick to it, thanks. And I certainly don't need the likes of you defending my right to it - since I am perfectly capable of that all on my own.
cya
You know what? We should go to foxnews.com and start trolling all of those forums. See how these trolls like a taste of their own medicine, LOL.
Without vomiting?
'Cuz, I don't know if I could pull that off.....
yeah-ya - Friday's right - I'm not sure I could take it.
lol
we could all tweet . . .
Tweet 7 Economic Lies Link
Tweet That with this page link -Tweet That!!
Corps Do Not Have Tongues Tweet
Gimme the PLIERS!!
I support knowledge-all of it-even when it proves that some opinion or understanding I held prior to the introduction of that knowledge-was wrong. I value truth over my ego. My only agenda is to learn what I do not know, and share what I do.
So, perhaps you can explain to me why the introduction of facts, or a firm insistence on operating under the controls and parameters established by them, in this particular forum results in "dissent, distraction, or dismay"???
How can anyone promote real, true, honest change without making sure that all the premises involved in the current situation are ACCURATELY and FACTUALLY established? The only way in which we as a country might arrive at a specific and "right" goal, from flawed and "wrong" premises, is by sheer coincidence.
FACT
WPTZ news is reporting - right this miniute - the maple sap is already running, and there is no snow, haven't gotten half of last years snow.
it's the second warmest year since 1890 - raining and high temp in the 50s - average temp:
this is VERMONT
You know how I read that? I read that as:
In the past 122 years, Vermont has had 2 winters this warm or warmer, and 120 winters that were colder.
Air temperatures reported by your local weatherman are NOT the same as the readings and recordings taken to establish "global" warming or cooling trends.
And Alaska has record cold AND snow this year.
The North Atlantic Oscillation, is holding the jet stream far to the north and it's at record pressures.
Actual climatologist, are in awe, saying this is unprecedented.
It's been 50 here in Michigan for the last 2 days. No snow on the ground.
This after the anti-global warming crowd was predicting a cold harsh winter.
Well, I guess you don't know the right "climatologists" then. Forward them to this website will you?: http://www.bitsofscience.org/solar-no-cold-winter-europe-sunspot-4122/
Recent (relatively) cold winters happened during solar minimum
"The theory is quite straightforward – and has been known to climatologists for many years: during the winter months solar activity influences air pressure patterns over the Arctic and lower northern hemisphere latitudes."
Sounds nice, but the latest data debunks that theory.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120130172611.htm
You need find .......um.....non........"conservative" sources for factual information.
It's true of everything, but more so for science.
Um no sweetie. Stay on task.
You were talking about the North Atlantic Oscillation holding the jet stream far to the north at record pressures. The link was to a website that explained the phenomenon known as the North Atlantic Oscillation and how it affects seasonal weather. :)
SMACK!!!!!!!!!!!
DF...............YOU brought up solar minimum!!!!
Go back to FLAKESnews for your science info.
SUCK that Murdock ass.
Do you people actually READ anything in it's entirety? Ever?
That article was based on how the solar minimum AFFECTS the North Atlantic Oscillation.....my crap. Even the part I quoted said "During winter months, solar activity influences AIR PRESSURE PATTERNS over the Arctic and lower northern hemisphere latitudes".
Or did you actually not even KNOW what the the NAO is????
From here
To make a climate skeptic sputter, you need to as ask him for real evidence — published in a respected, peer-reviewed scientific journal and authored by a scientist with a PhD in climatology — that atmospheric concentrations of CO2 can rise above 450 parts per million (ppm) without affecting global temperatures. No expert will make that claim. The overwhelming majority of climate scientists believe that a global tragedy is drawing nigh.
CO2 Now stands at 391.80 ppm
wait - did I post this here already?
I've got other notes if you like . . .
Oh wait...are you just posting "notes" you've taken out of context from different websites that AGREE with your position-while ignoring everything else from those websites that does NOT agree with your position? Or do you actually know how the climate and atmosphere and sun and the planet actually work in relation to each other?
I assumed the latter without even giving a thought to the former....because the former would be immature, stupid, and completely insane.....
actually I've been watching this . . . debate . . . since 1998. I'm kinda tired of the bullshit. I've watched it morph, from:
to
and soon, based on my thermometer right outside my own door - I would say the whole debate will disappear altogether.
The sun has been down for 4 hours now, this is Vermont, in the dead of winter. Currently the temp outside is 41 F
that's crazy
Good. Glad you've been watching the debates. Now, go back and read actual scientific facts -ALL of them-about how the atmosphere, the Sun, and our own planet (with or without us humans) work together to form that mysterious thing called "climate".
Read up on the North Atlantic Oscillation-what it does, and how it affects seasonal weather.
here
The IPCC? Seriously. Wow.
http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/BadMeteorology.html
And then this from last month:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45975071/ns/us_news-environment/t/scientists-say-cut-soot-methane-curb-warming/#.TyoBZYHC7Lw
"A 2007 Stanford University study calculated that carbon dioxide was the No. 1 cause of man-made global warming, accounting for 48 percent of the problem. Soot was second with 16 percent of the warming and methane was right behind at 14 percent.
But over a 20-year period, a molecule of methane or soot causes substantially more warming then a carbon dioxide molecule."
Get that? CO2 is 48% of the "man made" global warming problem. HALF. So let's ignore the other half completely!
I agree Xenu (below-ran out of replies I guess)
We SHOULD do all we can to protect and honor this planet. I'm not suggesting otherwise in any way.
For MYSELF, that includes understanding as much as possible about HOW the climate works BEFORE we go attempting to tweak it in some way that COULD result in an even WORSE predicament than we currently find ourselves in. I mean seriously, some scientists are suggesting we "perturb volcanoes" in order to put soot in the air to "cool" the planet. Does THAT "make sense" or is it a "gamble"???
The computer models that originally caused all the hoopla about "global warming" were not programmed correctly. They failed to take into consideration things that we NOW know affect the climate more than we'd previously thought. They need to be re-programmed with CURRENT data sets and rerun.
People like ZenDog and shooz WANT you to believe that people like me don't give a flying crap about this planet, but they are wrong.
My stance on the whole climate change issue is that, no matter what the science says, we should be taking preventative measures to ensure that the planet that we leave behind is the same planet that your children and their children inherit. I want them to be able to fish, hunt, and breathe natural air without being worried about being poisoned in the process. This isn't something that I want anyone to take a "gamble" on. It is sensible for humans to do what they can to minimize their impact on the planet that we all have to live in.
I guess you could call me an "environmental conservative," LOL.
"the warmer it gets, the warmer it's gonna get."
Which is why the earth is now 4 billion degrees....because it's done nothing but WARM and get warmer.
Too much pot in the old days ZenDog. Too many government electrodes.
you are still grasping at straws. And discounting the fact that when permafrost or the ice caps melt methane is released. In significant amounts.
In other words, the warmer it gets, the warmer it's gonna get.
Add in the fact that as the ice caps shrink, they reflect less energy, while the ocean absorbs more energy, and again, what you end up with is -
get that?
Oh no the World is ending!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Help us all hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahaha in other related news, scientist say not to worry about Global warming because it is not happening!!!!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204301404577171531838421366.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read
From here
To make a climate skeptic sputter, you need to as ask him for real evidence — published in a respected, peer-reviewed scientific journal and authored by a scientist with a PhD in climatology — that atmospheric concentrations of CO2 can rise above 450 parts per million (ppm) without affecting global temperatures. No expert will make that claim. The overwhelming majority of climate scientists believe that a global tragedy is drawing nigh.
CO2 Now stands at 391.80 ppm
Thanks for the charts.
The CO2 levels have risen something along the lines of 80-100ppm since 1900. And the temperature has risen (using Zendog's second link) .46 Celsius. HALF a degree.
Now, I DO believe in climate change. I have no problem accepting that CO2 rising above 450ppm could affect global temperatures. You're telling me that it is the RISING CO2 levels ALONE that are causing global temperatures to rise already!!!
My "skepticism" comes from the fact that CO2 levels HAVE NEVER affected global temperatures ALL ON THEIR OWN. Fact is, they were once up to TEN TIMES higher than they are now-and the globe was COLDER.
See, the very website from your first link says the following about the high CO2 levels in the atmosphere during the Ordovician Period: http://www.skepticalscience.com/CO2-was-higher-in-late-Ordovician.htm
"During the Ordovician, solar output was much lower than current levels. Consequently, CO2 levels only needed to fall below 3000 parts per million for glaciation to be possible."
WOW...If CO2 levels were the only thing that drove temperatures, and they "ONLY" need to fall below 3000ppm for glaciation to be possible.... My Lord we should be frozen inside ice blocks right now!
But wait...it said something about the SUN being involved there too.....much lower solar output than we have now. WHEW!! Seems that solar output is the only thing keeping us from death by frostbite at the moment.
The Sun, CO2 levels, the radiation from the Earth (we radiate...you know that...), OTHER "green house" gases, and the radiation from the atmosphere itself ALL affect the climate. NO expert denies that.
Some of those things, HUMANS can and do affect, and some of them we can't and don't. Saying that ONLY the ones we affect are responsible for the climate changing and NONE of the others-seems a tad....unscientific don't you think?
there are a number of feedback loops - including a loss of ice at either pole, which will increase the amount of sun's energy absorbed into the sea; then there is methane trapped in the permafrost, and in the sea bed beneath the ice caps. Methane is more efficient at trapping the sun's energy than co2.
you are seriously confusing the different eras contained in that vast period of time we term the Ordovician Period.
I think you are grasping at straws. How much they pay ya?
What is your reading comprehension level? I need to make this simpler I guess.
Do you believe that C02 levels ALONE are responsible for the changes in our climate? Yes or no?
If you DO-then you are hopelessly uninformed on every scientific level possible.
If you DO NOT-then please list the OTHER influences that SCIENTISTS have PROVEN can and do affect our climate.
Like I said: I think you are grasping at straws. How much they pay ya?
What Factors Determine Earth's Climate?
Earth more sensitive to CO2 than previously thought
It's 2012 ZenDog. And climate scientists have come a long way baby.
Yeah, really, wsj, pays them to make stuff up.
Sad for sure.
hahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahaha the Earth is crumbling, I am burning up bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
you need to put the crack pipe down.
Giggle.....giggle...............wsj..................giggle.....................Murdock...............................PROPAGANDA...............crap...........giggle.
FLAKESnews!!!!!!!!!
Same dog..............different race.........................giggle.
propaganda..................................OR.................................as they like to call it.....................PR
Hehehehe........giggle.......Scientists...........actual data.......hehehehehe....oh crap..........makes those buying the global warming PROPAGANDA look stupid...........
Claude Allegre, former director of the Institute for the Study of the Earth, University of Paris; J. Scott Armstrong, cofounder of the Journal of Forecasting and the International Journal of Forecasting; Jan Breslow, head of the Laboratory of Biochemical Genetics and Metabolism, Rockefeller University; Roger Cohen, fellow, American Physical Society; Edward David, member, National Academy of Engineering and National Academy of Sciences; William Happer, professor of physics, Princeton; Michael Kelly, professor of technology, University of Cambridge, U.K.; William Kininmonth, former head of climate research at the Australian Bureau of Meteorology; Richard Lindzen, professor of atmospheric sciences, MIT; James McGrath, professor of chemistry, Virginia Technical University; Rodney Nichols, former president and CEO of the New York Academy of Sciences; Burt Rutan, aerospace engineer, designer of Voyager and SpaceShipOne; Harrison H. Schmitt, Apollo 17 astronaut and former U.S. senator; Nir Shaviv, professor of astrophysics, Hebrew University, Jerusalem; Henk Tennekes, former director, Royal Dutch Meteorological Service; Antonio Zichichi, president of the World Federation of Scientists, Geneva.
If I gave you the list that do support it, and have since the start, it would crash the server.
Go back to darning socks, Betsy, do what you do best.
You should also learn how propaganda (PR) works.
Indeed public relations, is the propagandized word for propaganda.
Rookie.
funny....science is not a popularity contest, the number of supporters vs the number of skeptics does not make it true or false.....a single experiment with results that do not corroborate the theory, invalidate it, that is how science works......
It's not about consensus, or popularity of a hypothesis, or theory, it's about whether there is indisputable evidence, and in the case of anthropological global warming there is NOT that sort of empirical evidence.....Sorry to burst your bubble.....
Sorry to burst your pitiful bubble but, NOTHING in science is truly indisputable.
That's the magic. It's all falsifiable.
Perhaps experimenting with the atmosphere IS the problem.
Please tell, oh great and perfect slammy, what system has man messed with that he didn't screw up?
You underestimate man, by a large margin.
You sexist piece of crap.
Again, apparently you and ZenDog have no idea that being skeptical that the globe IS warming, is different from being skeptical about HOW/WHY/WHAT is causing the warming. And I dare you to find a list of credible, published, CLIMATE scientists that say that CO2 is solely and completely responsible for global warming, and that ALL that man has contributed to the atmosphere that can possibly affect it IS CO2.
Idiot.
still grasping at straws I see . . .
What is the Relationship between Climate Change and Weather?
Ding bat!
I never did say that. Chloroflouro carbons, methane, stuff they won't even admit, is going into the atmosphere.
Let me ask you one simple question.
What hasn't man managed to screw up?
Usually at the behest of one corporation or another.
Man has managed to screw up everything-INCLUDING science. And completely at the behest of one corporation or another. That you believe your precious climate scientists are ABOVE IT ALL....or not human enough to screw that up too, makes you the biggest idiot here.
No, I'm afraid I don't, real science is falsifiable, yet you accept whatever wsj says.
That makes you the fool.
I don't think he even bothers to read the entire websites he takes his "quotes" from. If he did, maybe he'd realize why taking quotes from them out of context keeps undermining his own arguments?
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Thank them for attacking our freedom?
No. To thank them for offering to help to protect the freedom of the vast majority of the citizens who live in Miami from a small minority of people who are abusing their right to speak freely to the point that it is affecting OTHER rights and freedoms which belong to the public as a whole as well.
How were other people's rights attacked by a few people in a park? Did you not have access to said park? Could you not walk through that park and say what you wanted to while in that park?
Was this city park established specifically as a "place to walk through" and "say whatever one wants to say"? If that is the case, then OWS has every right to walk through that park and say what they want to say during the time frames and manners established by the consensus of the society that established and/or maintains that park.
American society has established that CAMPING should be done in areas designated for camping. Our society has designated OTHER places for LIVING, and has even done much to provide places for those who are homeless to LIVE, rather than in city parks, because society does not believe that city parks are acceptable places for people to live/camp.
Now, if you'd like to propose laws and guidelines that allow "protests" held within city limits to INCLUDE camping and living etc, and allow the citizens of those cities to Democratically VOTE (consensus remember??) on whether or not they agree with the property that belongs to all of them equally being used in that manner-GREAT!! I'm all for it.
Parks are established to be used by the public. Occupiers are members of the public, ergo they have the same rights as everyone else does to use that park in the way that they see fit.
And American society did NOT establish camping to be an illegal form of free speech. A few politicians paid for by the 1% lobbyists? Maybe. But not the people. To date there has been no public referendum to determine whether to ban camping on public property. All of these bans have been handed down by elected officials that are most likely NOT going to remain elected for long due to their 1% sucking-up.
"Parks are established to be used by the public.....have the same rights as everyone else does to use that park in the way that they see fit".
Seriously? ANY way they see fit? So members of the public could use the park to slaughter chickens? Or graze some cows in? Or use it as a motor cross raceway? Or a place to burns trash in large bonfires in. Or as a parking lot?
But you bring up a good point....America has also NOT established that camping is a Legal form of free speech. I think it should go on every ballot in every city this fall, so that the "people" can decide for themselves. Don't you?
Its public land. There should be no restriction on how its used, even if that means some dude starts chopping up chickens on it. Although in that case I would want that person to keep their chicken chopping at home because of the possible sanitary and safety issues from the knife...
I agree with you. It should be on every ballot. That's actually the whole point behind OWS, that corporations and the big banks have been holding the votes in this country thanks to their money. I want US to decide, not the corporate lobby, how this country is run.
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