Forum Post: Occupy Has Changed The World
Posted 11 years ago on May 13, 2012, 6:03 a.m. EST by GypsyKing
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After seven months I am no longer able to contribute here, but before I go, I just wanted to say that Occupy has changed the world. I was so inspired by those who came to Zuccotti Park back in September and early October that I felt obligated to try to help in some way, and the only way was on this forum.
Circumstances no longer allow that.
But before I go, I want to say that you have changed the world. The idea of Occupy is now unstoppable, so don't be dragged down by the paid trolls here. Their job is to disperse hopelessness and confusion; but when you look at the world today it is not the same world that it was a year ago. Occupy is here to stay, and five years from now the world will be transformed. That is because of you, and I thank you.
The best to all those I have had the pleasure of getting to know here, and happy in the knowlege that we will all meet again in a better world, I bid you all a fond adieu.
GypsyKing
Bye Gypsy :(
GK,
I truly hope that all is well with you and that you will come back to join us soon. You've been a strong voice for Occupy.
BW.
Hello GyspyKing, Will miss you. Nevada1
Thank you for sticking around for so long GypsyKing.
I'm going to be working with another poster and whoever is interested in forming a new party out of this at the DNC. Lets talk in PMs if you're going to be there.
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At the DNC? Good thing we haven't been co-opted!
We thank you. And wish you God's speed in your return. Stay safe out there and continue to carry the torch.
Gypsy:
Very sad news about your leaving here. You will be sorely missed.
I hope you are OK.
Send me a PM and we'll exchange info if you wish.
All the best.
Do please stop back in from time to time. No need to post just an occasional touch base PM would be appreciated by all of your friends. Be well. {:-])
Goodbye my friend, enjoy the spring and please don't be a complete stranger here.......:)
You will be missed.
I wish you the best GK, I appreciate you intellect, your courage and humor.
Gypsy King we barely had time to meet, let alone know each other, sad news indeed. Those that follow will have a harder road to find without your light. If there is anything you would wish to share please pm.
Oliver! - Be Back Soon
Didn't always agree with you, but you were always polite and explanatory.
Thanks for your many responses to my queries.
Happy Trails GypsyKing.
Thanks for the memories GK. I always thought that you were at your best when you inspired us to strive for the best in ourselves. Your spirit will always be here, as it will live on in many of us.
Sorry to see you go Gypsy (I'll miss you) ... hope all is well & if you're a mom, happy mothers day :)
We rarely saw eye to eye, but at least you were polite.
Good Luck!
I can't imagine this forum without seeing the name "GypsyKing" Be safe, be well.
Last time you said this, you fortunately came back the next day and started posting more than ever before. A romantic you were, an earnest romantic. You had one of the highest scores here, most likely because of a bad forum addiction. You posted more than anyone before you! We knew Gypsy threads when we read the words "paid trolls". They were always after you for some reason. I guess you must have been dishing out the truth all along.
Fair well righteous man. One addiction less in your life.
I have seen them come and I have seen them go.This one will be missed..
Delusional much?
Old-time Wall-Street saying: "Sell in May and go away." Everything may well still be the same here after the summer (I am a little bit depressed about the J.P. Morgan Chase incident -- it seems that the financial industry still got the regulatory law pent up in the regulatory agencies where our "never happen again" national executive will continue to allow stabs in the back). The fact that we will experience these financial crises again and again makes circular time very believable. You may not miss much. I learned something here and you probably did, too. Best Wishes!
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There is a paid troll position ? I could use a job where do I apply?
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Posting on a website is too big a commitment?
Gypsy King, I can't imagine why you won't contribute to this site anymore, if that is something you want to do, But I was curious about your "paid trolls" comment. How does one do that exactly? When I Google the subject, all I come up with is comment and speculation, except for an article by George Monibot when he talks about a couple of Monsanto PR shills back in 2002. I think people on the Left have a real hard time believing that anyone with an ounce of brains could disagree with them, and would take the time to do so independently on a forum like this, or the Huffington Post for that matter. Quite honestly, if the comment section on any site is a love fest where everyone is nodding their head in agreement with each other, what is the point of having one in the first place? It certainly takes the entertainment factor out of it, Again, how does one become a paid troll? I could use the extra money.
"Again, how does one become a paid troll?"
it helps to take on an attitude of authority and pedantry
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bullshit
Matt, I get your point on this particular posting, but it isn't very interesting or persuasive. My eyes started to glaze over by the end of the first sentence! And the syntax was poor. I really don't believe the person that wrote that got paid to do so, but if you have proof, I'd very much like to see it. Maybe they work for BP pumping gas, but if BP paid them to write that stuff, they are getting ripped off.
lol
I don't have my voter pamphlet on hand. but I plan to get that out
earthquakes and tidal waves don't cause extinctions
"Again, how does one become a paid troll?"
I believe one possible way is to get hired by one of the various bureaucracies that help protect the gov't. The other way is to get hired at a public relations firm (the Monsanto PR shills were from The Bivings Group - a PR firm working for Monsanto.)
Mark, Which bureaucracies "protect the government"? The Secret Service or Capitol Police? The military? They are all salaried and none of them are paid for piece work, which is how I understand trolls get paid; by the post. PR flaks get paid salaries too, and you actually have to go to college to be one.The Monibot article talks about how some libertarian group was training people to manipulate things online, but they weren't PAYING the people. Though it is not on Snopes, I think that paid trolls are firmly in the realm of urban legends, because other than the Monsanto thing ten years ago, I can't find proof of it anywhere. No recruitment, no people coming forward to admit they had done it, no media exposes, no nothing. Could it be that there are people out there, like me, that just like to debate online and have strong feelings about certain issues? Why should PR firms pay people for something that they will do for nothing?
"Which bureaucracies "protect the government"? The Secret Service or Capitol Police? The military?"
Oh goodness. I guess I have to spell it out for you. F B I - Homeland Sec. And, okay... I see you want to play semantics in your understanding of the word troll. I'm not gonna follow you down that rabbit hole. As for why the above would be here? In case you missed it, the sub-title of this forum is "The Revolution Continues." Umm... I think it is their business to check out what the radicals and revolutionaries are saying about this revolution, dontcha think?
"The Monibot article talks about how some libertarian group was training people to manipulate things online."
The Monibot article says a lot more than that! (He does have a few articles on the subject.) Let me provide the link for you... and, more importantly for other people here who haven't heard about this. http://www.monbiot.com/2002/05/14/the-fake-persuaders/
"Could it be that there are people out there, like me, that just like to debate online and have strong feelings about certain issues?"
Of course... that is just pointing out the obvious.
"Why should PR firms pay people for something that they will do for nothing?"
First, PR firms are providing a service for (ie: getting paid by) corporations and bigger companies to help with their public image, and protect their interests (profit-making). The example of the Monsanto case gives a crystal clear reason why they do this: A scientific paper by 2 Berkeley reseachers gave conclusive evidence that Monsanto's GMO product (which they make billions in profits) was going to cause harm to the public, and this paper might have caused huge losses in profits if it gained attention. So they used a PR firm to help protect their interests by undermining the 2 researchers and spreading disinformation on internet forums used by over 3000 scientists - the details are in the Monibot article linked above.
In regards to roaming smaller online public forums, like this one, I'm guessing PR hacks aren't here as much because the various interests they are paid to protect aren't really directly being threatened here (remember the OWS people have already been thoroughly discredited and painted as "misfits" "hippies" "anarchists" "lazy" by the media, so at this point I question whether they see any threat to their interests on a forum like this.) - plus, as you noted (in a more polite way) the bored tea party idiots and the other holier than thou right-wing folks do a spectacular job for them for free.
Monibot said it best... "Persuasion works best when it’s invisible." ie: if people think this is just an urban legend, and a "conspiracy" then they retain the power to continue falsely persuading public opinion on internet forums and such. So, it's kind of interesting to take notice of how you are helping this phenomenon stay invisible by playing the "it's just an urban legend" card. I'm not sure if it's intentional or not... but, regardless, I'm sure the PR folks appreciate you helping to keep it invisible.
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You are still an Obama fan, so there hasnt been any change on your part.