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I ask you to imagine a once free America. Imagine an America which promoted individual liberty and personal responsibility, not a welfare state. Imagine an America where the Constitution applied to every person and every case, no matter how bad the crime or criminal at suspect. Imagine an America restrained by the Constitution, due process and the rule of law. Imagine an America devoid of secret watch lists, secret prisons and secret assassinations.

Imagine a moral society which only engaged in just war and only as a last resort. Imagine an America, where the decision to go to war, is actually one declared by congress. Imagine an America which never endorsed the use of preventive wars to promote peace. Imagine an America where torture was never acceptable, even if called "enhanced" interrogation techniques. Imagine an America in which a warrant was always required to search or seize persons or property. Imagine an America which respected the writ of habeas corpus and condemned indefinitely detaining individuals.

Imagine an America where prosperity wasn't derived from private printing presses, but from true wealth. Imagine an America not ravished by endlessly spending a fiat currency in pursuit of economic growth; all the while promoting the welfare and warfare state. Imagine an America which encouraged savings at the same time destroying that very possibility by devaluing their currency through the deceitful act of controlled monetary inflation. Imagine an America where coins were still worth their weight. Imagine an American in which gold and silver were actually legal tender.

Imagine an America where children are not arrested for front yard lemonade stands. Imagine an America where you couldn’t be arrested and jailed for gardening on your property. Imagine an America without checkpoints where blood could be drawn against one's will, and without warrant. I ask you to imagine an America where citizens could make the simple decision to drink raw milk. Imagine an America which valued personal choice and responsibility above dictating morality through law. Imagine an America which allowed companies to actually protect their property and customers. Imagine an America where individuals actually had the right to their life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as long as they didn’t endanger others.

Imagine if rights are actually derived from creation, and not from government.

Imagine now an America in which citizens understood and respected the experiment of liberty. Imagine now an America which still embraces the tired, the poor, and the huddled masses yearning to breathe free. Imagine now an America where the wretched refuse, the homeless, those searching for a New Colossus could venture to experience liberty. Imagine now America no longer safeguarded the liberty they sought, but only the security and secrecy of the state.

Imagine an America where ignorance isn’t sold as wisdom; and tolerance not delivered by force. Imagine an America where politicians stood behind American principles. Imagine an America where oath to the Constitution was taken seriously and always upheld. Imagine an America of resounding liberty; not one of ever incrementally increasing tyranny. Imagine America as she once was: free and prosperous.

Now try to imagine an idea. Imagine an idea so powerful, so strong in it conviction, no army or government could stop it. Imagine a return of the respect of the Constitution. Imagine a return to due process and the rule of law in all cases. Imagine a return to sound currency and sound monetary policy. Imagine the abolishment of partaking down the dangerous path of legislating morality. Imagine a return to a foreign policy of freedom and not of preemptive wars and nation building. Imagine the return to the ideals of extending friendship to all, and having entangling alliances with no one. Above all else, Imagine Liberty and understand the responsibility having it demands from each of us. Imagine America not as your Empire but as a Republic.

Freedom is a relatively new idea, liberty a young experiment. Imagine this youthful ideal lost to simple apathy and content. Imagine a chance to restore this ideal. Imagine if we had the chance to Restore America Now.

Imagine a Revolution. A Ron Paul Revolution.

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[-] 1 points by mrsbblack (102) 13 years ago

share http://purpleblogspot.blogspot.com/2011/10/list-of-ows-supporters.html on facebook and sign up! Support OWS and vote for YOUR ideas!

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[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 13 years ago

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[-] 1 points by sudoname (1001) from Berkeley, CA 13 years ago

What about http://www.facebook.com/OccupyWallSt ?

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[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 13 years ago

okay, anchored in..

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[-] 1 points by sudoname (1001) from Berkeley, CA 13 years ago

Global: http://www.facebook.com/OccupyWallSt Local example: http://www.facebook.com/OccupyFDSF

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[-] 1 points by oceanweed (521) 13 years ago

end bush tax cuts , rebuild America bridges and roads , invest in middle class not banking class thats the occupy wall street message.

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[-] 1 points by OccupyDC (153) 13 years ago

Has anyone tried to occupy Monster.com .... and get a job.

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[-] 1 points by Esposito (173) 13 years ago

Touche! LOL!

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[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 13 years ago

Get off the troll wagon and realize that the majority of these people cannot find jobs or have had their houses foreclosed on, etc. They are not lazy bums. They single parents, students, war veterans, and people from all walks of life. There is so much wrong with this system and people are sick of it. Bottom line. telling them to get jobs is such an easy way to pass blame, and you should think of something better.

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[-] 1 points by OccupyDC (153) 13 years ago

If they went to college and got an actual USEFUL degree, they would have jobs. A degree in nonsense like "gender diversity" or some other garbage along those lines basically means an unemployable idiot.

English literature is also a useless degree. There is a glut of people with those degrees.

The people in foreclosure.... I feel bad for some, but many bought too much house at too high of a price for their incomes all the while thinking the value of real estate goes in one direction....up.. No one put a gun to their head to sign the mortgages. The world needs renters and tenants too.

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[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 13 years ago

That's also a ridiculous thing to say. Why do colleges even offer these degrees if they are so useless? surely someone must think they are of some worth or they would not exist....and if that's the case, that are in fact worthless, then they should stop offering them and charging students so much money to get them, because then it is basically robbery, which is another thing being protested.

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[-] 1 points by OccupyDC (153) 13 years ago

Colleges and Universities couldn't give a damn whether the degrees and the curriculum are completely useless. They will offer any course they think any sucker will be willing to take. They don't give a rat's ass whether the degree has any real world value.

They are in business to make money. They are not altruistic organizations.

Maybe 30 or 40 years ago students would have been pushed in a direction to chose a major that had some real world value. Those days are long gone.

The college and university "bubble" is the next one to go bust.

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[-] 1 points by gibsone76m (298) from Washington, NJ 13 years ago

Who do you think funded Facebook.

HAHAHAHA its great. You all are so clueless.

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[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 13 years ago

Regardless of its investors, it is a fast and simple way to network and gain support and figure out what your numbers are.

http://www.facebook.com/marchtodc

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[-] 1 points by gibsone76m (298) from Washington, NJ 13 years ago

but don't you think its ironic that you are trying to protest via Facebook, but Facebook wouldn't exist without big banks?

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[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 13 years ago

It is ironic, yes. But they own everything...what are we suppose to do, hide at home without phones or tv or computers? That is the world we live in. big banks are not the only problem we face, and big banks would be fine if not given so much power.

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[-] 1 points by gibsone76m (298) from Washington, NJ 13 years ago

YOU ARE GIVING THEM THE POWER.

If you want to send a message, man up and give up the technology. Without the banks you already would be at home without phones tvs or computers. You say you want the technology but don't want the banks. Well you cant have your cake and eat it too.

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[-] 1 points by Esposito (173) 13 years ago

They're are saying they want the technology but don't want to pay for it. It's in the constitution. "Thou shalt have everything for free if it's too hard for thou to get out of bed in the morning." It's there. The first president George Jefferson said it. I'm not making this up. Really!

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[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 13 years ago

seeing as they don't have inexpensive ways to communicate anymore (stamps and envelopes and paper and cardboard and CB radios, etc are all insanely expensive now), there is no other practical way to communicate with each other. We are then forced to what, use our cars to go drive and talk to everyone? WAIT that means we are using gasoline. Well then we would have to start walking everywhere or biking which means we would have to buy nice shoes that are made by BIG fucking companies. anywhere you go now there are big corporations running everything. you cannot give up one thing without having to use another.

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[-] 1 points by gibsone76m (298) from Washington, NJ 13 years ago

Well then thank the banks for cheaper communication and transportation or stop complaining about how expensive everything else is.

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[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 13 years ago

maybe we should all buy horses but those are expensive too. practicality is something that cannot be given up when trying to organize something like this in modern times.

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[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 13 years ago

http://occupywallst.org/forum/how-many-of-you-would-be-willing-and-dedicated-eno/#comment-55482

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