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Forum Post: Occupiers and The Tea Party have common ground

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 20, 2011, 11:56 a.m. EST by ustaknow (14)
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Well I hope we all realize that Washington politicians ( Dems and Pubs) are bought and paid for. It is called Cronyism and a result of efforts on behalf of any one organization ( collective group) to Lobby ( request made by the aforementioned group) by promise of favor( political donations,all expense paid trips, outright fee for speaking engagement or other nefarious means).
 We as a nation are being led by a Few that create propaganda ( political fodder ) for the many to cause factions and division among the masses.

The one says about the other ( You are republiCON and bought and paid for by Wallstreet) The Other says ( You are a DemocRAT) giving tax dollars to foreign countries and welfare babies) Both are partially right but the point is the division is enough to divert the real attention away from what really ails us , which is the System structure has evolved to function in a manner that profits the few ( Government workers and Politicians) - for it is when these few are most profitable that the benefactors ( the Lobbyist mentioned above) are most appeased.

The trouble with the system is multifaceted in nature- for on one hand it requires massive spending- on a level that eclipses the revenue that it brings in which results in a cry for more revenue which brings out a group of peasants that are known by some as the TEA PARTY ( Taxed enough Already) .

And yet on the other hand the system rewards the benefactors (Lobbyist) who reward their selves with absurd pay scales which brings out the other side known as the Occupiers ( the group of people who are now being pepper sprayed at UC DAVIS) that recognize that the System is dysfunctional and rewards disproportionately ,the Lobbyist, and when they talk about it are now being put into a political context by the media to prop up the beliefs that the individual writer has come to know or believe due to years of propaganda by the FEW ( FEW = government politicians)

The end result is a chaotic division that has an underlying sense of "Symmetry" that both parties ( The Tea party and The Occupiers) sense but have yet to put into context exactly what their Base Gut instincts are telling them.

  In the balance of the story you have the common man and woman ( regular folk, working class folk, everyday Joe " You and me") that recognize that both factions ( Tea Party and Occupiers) are somehow right but on the other hand wrong- so we have to make the wrong make sense and to do so we revert back to what we have been taught throughout the ages by the FEW with their propaganda.

The System can be fixed but first we need all Americans to stand up and say that hey the TEA PARTY and The Occupiers are partly right and therefore cant be all wrong so we will hear them out on this matter.

In closing: I feel like the pay scale income equality can be fixed- for it is simply a formula that deals with the Gross income minus expenses ( net income) that is left over and how you distribute such ( ALL CAN PROFIT) I feel like the the trouble with the system ( 4th paragraph above) can be fixed- it will require a revolution at the voting booth that surrounds sound business principals applied to the revenue that we take in. We cant spend more than we take in and Government employees and politicians should not be paid excessively ( like fortune 500 companies) but rather like a scale of the common workers) The public sector should not be the most desired or coveted place to work because it pays more than the private sector- the private sector imo is any business that is not a publicly trade company.

p.s. There is nothing broken that can not be fixed even if the fix requires replacing that which is broken.

With Kindest personal regard I am hoping

( Hoping that Occupiers and The Tea party can be supported by the Common man or woman who know that both are partly right and yet needs a gelling factor so we can take the good and leave the bad and coalesce)

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[-] 4 points by StevenRoyal (490) from Dania Beach, FL 12 years ago

When the people fight each other, the 1% win!

[-] 3 points by 99watching (15) 12 years ago

I had been at zuccotti park over a dozen times before OWS was EJECTED (evicted requires an ownership interest that certainly doesn't apply to OWS squatters).

A large portion of the "PEACEFUL OWS DEMONSTRATORS" are seething, radical lunatics just under the surface.

The Tea Party hold rallies attended by 10000s - 100000s with NO arrests & NO trash, NO bigotry DESPITE repeated attempts of Liberal wanabe infiltrators to make it seam otherwise for the benefit of a VERY antagonistic main stream media.

On the other hand, The OWS (FILLED with Tea Party envy) holds rallies attended by 1000s: trash everywhere, pot smoking, drug use, public intoxication, defecation, urination, squalor, arrests. Rampant hideous racial bigotry [only Liberal Dependency Plantation Coloreds are not ridiculed & attacked, everyone else is fair game] & antisemitism that is carefully censored by a sycophantic boot licking main stream media was the norm at the OWS site.

Occupiers and The Tea Party have VERY LITTLE common ground.

[-] 1 points by StevenRoyal (490) from Dania Beach, FL 12 years ago

When the people fight each other, the 1% win!

[-] 1 points by Socrates469bc (608) from New York, NY 12 years ago

Yes, Agreed Yes, Tea Partiers please join us!

You have been drugged on Koch without your knowledge. Cure yourselves of the Koch snorting habits.You have been brain washed by Koch, the Anti EPA, Pro-greedy corporation Libertarians, and the Murdochs.

Donate to Occupy

http://occupywallst.org/donate/

[-] 0 points by gale (14) 12 years ago

Seems to me you need to find commong ground if you are truly aiming for 99%. In this moment that is not a fact.

[-] 2 points by ustaknow (14) 12 years ago

Greece kicked out all career politicians and put instead local people of various backgrounds; Some members are business men and women , while others are a mixture of various backgrounds.

When everyone learns that our politicians are joined at hip with corporate lobbyist ( yes including union members of republican and democrat background) we can set a correct course of action and do several things: abolish corporate tax loopholes, align government wages with private sector and not fortune 500 companies, stop welfare fraud abuse , while still helping the less fortunate then we will all win.

[-] 0 points by agnosticnixie (17) from Laval, QC 12 years ago

"Local people" - yes, I guess you can define a banker with Goldman Sachs ties as "local people".

I guess by this account Bloomberg is also local people.

[-] 2 points by ithink (761) from York, PA 12 years ago

Commentary from yahoo: "At the inception of the tea party movement, supporters were rallied around a cause and belief greater than party politics. The movement began from a revolutionary spirit, disgruntled with many of the same issues expressed in the OWS protest. While the spirit was the in the air, the consensus opinion was that we the people were being baited into violent revolution by the establishment. Such events would give cause for "Big Brother" to impose martial law, suppressing all efforts or inciting all out civil war. (I ask the OWS followers, does the story sound familiar yet?)"

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

Divide and Conquer- oldest trick in the book

[-] 1 points by ustaknow (14) 12 years ago

Socrates, I am not of the opinion that Tea Party has been bought out by Koch or anyone else- it was born out of a concept i alluded to in the original post about being taxed Enough Already

[-] 0 points by mjbento (74) 12 years ago

Tea Party is essencially a group of fanatic right-wingers. They are part of 1% and their aim is to eliminate taxes. I assume it's apparently good for all especially for the wealthy millionaires of wall street (sarcasm). If tea party could, they would make unions ilegal and they would cut health, education or pensions because in their "libertarian" view "States can't interfere in the economy" or translating, they prefer to watch you die in starvation and in financial hardships so wall street can keep its belly full of dollars, in business as usual.

I mean have no illusions; otherwise why do you think fox news gave them so much spotlight? Open you eyes!

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[-] 0 points by Socrates469bc (608) from New York, NY 12 years ago

Yes, Tea Partiers please join us!

You have been drugged on Koch without your knowledge. Abandon your Koch snorting habits.You have been brain washed by Koch, the Anti EPA, Pro-greedy corporation Libertarians, and the Murdochs.

Donate to Occupy

http://occupywallst.org/donate/

[-] 0 points by AuditElmerFudd (259) 12 years ago

The toss-off phrase "pro-greedy Libertarians" is such useless divisiveness, it's hard not to respond in kind... so, I will merely point out that the root of Libertarianism is self-rule, which should be an ideal we all strive for, as life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (which is not guaranteed) are fundamental for all Americans, no matter their economic standing.

[-] 0 points by Gibbons (3) 12 years ago

As a fundamentalism and follower of the Law OWS. Here's the plan: SHMITA (מיטה), in the Year of the Jubilee, as referenced in the Torah; Relieve all debt, neither purchase nor sell any product of service for one year and let the poor have free access to food. All old contracts are void, any new contracts shall not be made until after one year of rest and any new agreements made after the sabbatical year shall only be valid for six years. Simple economics. God as the economist. Look it up.

[-] 0 points by AuditElmerFudd (259) 12 years ago

Not a fan of any religions, but if you care to do good on your own, no one is stopping you. I never cared for authority figures... They seldom get it right.