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Forum Post: ObamaCare Outsourcing Woes

Posted 5 months ago on Oct. 25, 2013, 6:58 a.m. EST by HCHC4 (-28)
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/24/politics/congress-obamacare-website/

Looks like the contractors are now pointing the fingers.

According to MSNBC this morning, a last minute change was instead of people being able to browse policies first, and then register later, they switched it.

Really? They wanted everyone's information first? Shocking.

But, this does provide a nice story for our populace. Best to not discuss the fact that the government can now force the people to buy things from corporations. Where this beauty of a precedent leads god only knows.

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[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 5 months ago

all hail the invisible hand of the private market

[-] -2 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

These posters on here talking about "there is no free market" for years and now all of a sudden are all like

"If we force the people to buy from corporations, that will give them more customers and then the nice corporations will lower their prices for us!!"

Hypocrites abound.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

Sounds like you ran out of spin.

[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

Keep denying the truth.

Did you sign up yet? Hell fuckin no you didnt.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

There is nothing to deny. You don't have an argument. Get back to me when you get one.

You didn't read it.

You don't have any idea what the mandatory requirements were and you sure as hell weren't going up against the Florida Blue policy that did nothing but take money. Did you fight that? No? How telling.

You are against any regulation. Especially in Florida. Florida refused to do it and where are you at? Are you fighting to get an increase in Medicaid recipients? No? How telling.

I have insurance. I keep telling you this and just like everything else-you can't hear because your head is too far up your ass.

[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

No shit you already have insurance, its why you are such an ardent supporter.

Out of sight, out of mind for you.

Get ready for more of the same for the insurance companies through their lobbyin efforts- less benefits, prices increases and more record profits.

You think that after they can now force the public to purchase their shit garbage, that trend is going to REVERSE? Ha!

And you're still supporting the corporations with this, if you cant see this then you're even blinder than I thought.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26733) 5 months ago

It would appear that the Koch brothers endless supply of money has even outsourced their attacks.

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/11/new-denial-of-service-attack-aimed-directly-at-healthcare-gov/

[-] -2 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

Really? Both sides outsourcing their propaganda machines?

Im shocked.

(facepalm)

[-] 1 points by shooz (26733) 5 months ago

Um.....no.

As usual you didn't notice who was doing what. Failure to read....again?

The Koch's outsource almost all of their attacks. This ones just particularly heinous.

I fully expect you to be cheerleading for them some more.

How much did they spend to get you be their mouthpiece?

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/07/08/2262831/koch-brothers-obamacare-misinformation/

If you're not getting paid. You should be.

[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

No one is cheerleading for them, thats your lopsided misconception at work as usual.

The point is they are both doing, have always done it, and will keep doing.

Its just one side gets you to buy the garbage, the other doesnt.

Some of us are past all of it. Not falling for it.

Its like falling for a "sugar free" pepsi ad. Sure, its healthy than the other, But they still just convinced you to buy their garbage regardless.

PR firm Time cashing in on yet another Dem campaign: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/29/contractors-earn-big-for-pr-blitz-on-obamacare/?page=all

Time to wake up Shooz, and join the other 75% of Americans and denounce ALL OF THEM!

[-] 1 points by shooz (26733) 5 months ago

You're still completely incapable of following and understanding a link?

Could it be you're in a State that took what you are saying to the opposite EXTREME.

Yeppers, you are.

and in that way "owing" the Koch buck.

Here's YOUR "community" in the grand scheme.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/11/how-states-actively-prevent-people-from-learning-about-healthcare-plans/281227/

Shit man, this helps disprove your duopoly bullshit too, though as per your usual MO, I doubt you'll admit it.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26733) 5 months ago

Then there's your libe(R)tarian friends over at FLAKESnews.

Didn't you also try and claim that all MSM is the same too?

LOL

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/07/fox-business-john-stossel-upset-poor-people-arent-selling-kidneys-for-1200/

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

Would you mind if I borrowed that link?

[-] 2 points by shooz (26733) 5 months ago

Sure.

I found it on the internet..................:)

Don'tcha just love those libe(R)topians?

I wonder what label the non-believers will paste on him?

[-] -2 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

It depends on how educated you are.

Theres a significant portion of those who claim to be politically active that think either MSNBC or FOX is the place for the truth, and the other is nothing but lies.

Personally I laugh at either that believes them.

Luckily those that think they are both garbage are growing. The people are waking up, hopefully in time to do something.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26733) 5 months ago

Yet not surprisingly, you often push the FLAKESnews, libe(R)tarian positions.

Why is that?

Are you blaming your education?

I've been trying to help you, but you reject every attempt at truth.

PLUS, you've actually lied about me personally, while refusing to answer so many pertinent questions.

Like your relationship to the soap opera of the banned.

You like to pretend it didn't happen.

Like your posted links to the John Birch Society and Brietbart.

You like to pretend it didn't happen.

It did.

Now that you've lost the duopoly argument, I fully expect you to change your tune for a while, just to claim it again later.

After all, you've never let the truth get in the way of a single one of your "arguments", or adjust a single one of your "positions".

Oh and don't worry, FLAKESnews is still #1 in viewership and revenues.

your position is protected.

[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

"Luckily those that think they are both garbage are growing. The people are waking up, hopefully in time to do something."

Its coming whether you like it or not. People are thinking outside of the narrow predefined answers your generation has been spoon fed for an entire lifetime.

Its almost as if you never really did anything occupy-or political- at all, to be so out of touch.

Hmmm...

[-] 1 points by shooz (26733) 5 months ago

Astounding!

You ignore what's said, again, and throw in insults and a thinly veiled threat.

Out of touch?

You certainly are.

Pass one more lie about me.

Hmmmm

[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

What was the lie?

You have about 4 posters on here that support you. The rest almost all thank me for duking it out with you four.

So either EVERYONE is insane except for the four of you, or something is up.

What is it?

[-] 1 points by shooz (26733) 5 months ago

You mean the soap opera and their puppets??

Fuck 'em.

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[+] -4 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

"You mean the soap opera and their puppets?? Fuck 'em."

Wow. We are getting reeeeeeal transparent on here this afternoon. Good to air it out.

Some of those people you refer to are out in the streets protesting, you should be grateful.

[-] 0 points by shooz (26733) 5 months ago

Transparent?

Yep. Tellin' the truth.

When are you going to start?

At least one of your vaunted members was stalking people in meatspace.

Not unlike you and they stalked people here on the forum.

So yeppers..........

Fuck 'em.

[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

Not tea party, occupy. I wouldnt expect you to understand, seems how you never really got into it.

At least you two are consistent in your confusion and attacks.

Not on the Dem platform? Must be attacked. If that fails, ban em.

Priceless.

Do you realize your last post on here last night and your first this morning were only 7 hrs apart? Either multiple people are running your handle, or you are a professional internet poster- otherwise known as a troll.

One or the other. Or you're just a total nut.

Eh,...who knows.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

I'm not confused. You're not confused. No one else is confused. You're a multiple ID cockroach that has nothing to do with Occupy and...........I'm glad for our exchanges because you continue to demonstrate how far away from Occupy that you really are. Please, do continue your bullshit.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

Which would be funny......except that you are here because someone paid you to be here. Ya, watching you spin is entertainment but, not for long.

[+] -4 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

Really? Thats funny, the checks must be lost in the mail.

Who do you think that might be that is paying me? This outta be good, you never cease to show how confused you are.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

I'm not confused. You're not confused. Nobody else is confused either. So, why do you lie?

[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

"you are here because someone paid you to be here"

Come on Captain Obvious, lets here it.

Who is this fantastic group that is paying me to fight establishment thinking?

[-] 1 points by shooz (26733) 5 months ago

Hmmmm, but you outsourced to Gohmert.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/07/gohmert-we-had-to-shut-down-govt-or-people-would-suffer-and-die-from-obamacare/

How greedy is that shit?

Now as per greed.

Can you say pleonexia?

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

Special Investigation: How Insurers Are Hiding Obamacare Benefits From Customers

Across the country, insurance companies have sent misleading letters to consumers, trying to lock them into the companies' own, sometimes more expensive health insurance plans rather than let them shop for insurance and tax credits on the Obamacare marketplaces -- which could lead to people like Donna spending thousands more for insurance than the law intended. In some cases, mentions of the marketplace in those letters are relegated to a mere footnote, which can be easily overlooked.

The extreme lengths to which some insurance companies are going to hold on to existing customers at higher price, as the Affordable Care Act fundamentally re-orders the individual insurance market, has caught the attention of state insurance regulators.

The insurance companies argue that it's simply capitalism at work. But regulators don't see it that way. By warning customers that their health insurance plans are being canceled as a result of Obamacare and urging them to secure new insurance plans before the Obamacare launched on Oct. 1, these insurers put their customers at risk of enrolling in plans that were not as good or as affordable as what they could buy on the marketplaces.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/insurance-companies-misleading-letters-obamacare

[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

So we both agree insurance companies are scumbags. Good to know.

So stop endorsing Heritage Foundation created Romneyville Care already!!

[-] -1 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

PR firms cashing in on huge opportunities:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/29/contractors-earn-big-for-pr-blitz-on-obamacare/?page=all

We have one here that once stated "If Murdock wants to give me a check, I'd take it"...

This is just an extension of that thinking.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

PR firms suck. I think you cretins should be tarred and feathered and run out of the US. It's a coming and I can't wait.

[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

Might want to start with the ones that have you convinced forced corporatism is a good thing.

Ha. Another blind D/R supporter suckered into endorsing corruption. You are a perfect pr firm for the establishment and dont even know it!

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

Ha. We'll start with you.

[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

Another Mandate!

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/05/22/488073/20-million-campaign-about-obamacare/

Ha, unreal. Now they are mandating PR campaigns ran by outsourced professional companies.

Mandated outsourcing?

Mandated consultants?

Mandated PR contracts?

Wow. I realize everyone says this will lead to universal, but whats the estimated time table? Its taken 5 years to push through the biggest piece of corporatist legislation possibly ever- am I forgetting something?- so whats the time table to reversing this and then telling the insurance companies to get lost?

[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago
[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

http://occupywallst.org/users/HCHC4/

Hey look, there's another two dollar whore just like you. You must be so proud.

[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

Your views arent lining up with your values. No comment on the consultants working on your fav legislation?

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

Wrong answer, my lil' multiple ID cockroach.

[+] -5 points by drinkbrondo (-71) 5 months ago

Woes? Oh yea just ...woes. The fucking community organizer just took over one sixth of our economy, and he can't get a website up and running in three FUCKING YEARS , and 1/3 billion dollars. The Post Office just took over healthcare. Fucking liberals. OWN IT!

[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

Liberal comes from the root word liberate.

[-] -3 points by autumnnites (-2) 5 months ago

There is nothing "liberal" about the fascist leftwing. It's downright Orwellian to call the left "liberal"

[+] -4 points by drinkbrondo (-71) 5 months ago

I see...you are liberating us from the need to choose our own doctor, or when to be treated. Yes...in fact I do feel liberated. Why thank you

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

Faux arguments make you look like a fucking moron.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 months ago

It is a moron - it drinks bondo and misspells it.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

It's a moron but because it's a sham little good guy/bad guy scenario.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 months ago

Yep - there is That

[+] -5 points by drinkbrondo (-71) 5 months ago

Sad reality. Can't remain in denial forever about Obamacare. Costs skyrocketing, millions being dropped from coverage, millions moved to part time work, and NO, you may not be able to choose your own doctor, and finally they don't follow HIPPA laws for privacy. That was just admitted under oath two days ago. Liberals...destroying healthcare in America. Own it bitch.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

You had ample time to work on issues within the ACA. But, you chose not to. You. YOU. You, took cash to spin shit because you are a two dollar piece of shit whore. Now, what is this? http://www.cms.gov/Regulations-and-Guidance/HIPAA-Administrative-Simplification/Affordable-Care-Act/index.html?redirect=/Affordable-Care-Act/

You had ample time. But, that wasn't what you, YOU, were getting paid to do. Own it you piece of shit Teathuglican multiple ID pr cockroach.

[+] -4 points by autumnnites (-2) 5 months ago

Oblamer Misadministration had plenty of time (and taxpayer money) to get it right

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

FAIL. No, cockroach. You were too busy spinning shit to notice.

[+] -4 points by HCHC4 (-28) 5 months ago

Is that what you think Obamacare is? A liberal plan?

It might be good to give us a little info on yourself. I can more easily shred your arguments and save us both a lot of time.

I'll reply back after returning from Halloscream. But then again, me being on the computer, specifically political sites, at 1am usually leads to me then seeing it the next morning and thinking "eeeeh, yikes".

[+] -5 points by drinkbrondo (-71) 5 months ago

Running from it already HCHC? Pathetic. Yes.. Obamacare a conservative plan. You saw right through the ruse.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

And now you look like a sad little cockroach.

[+] -4 points by drinkbrondo (-71) 5 months ago

. I speak for all conservatives , we sincerely apologize for shoving Obamcare down America's throat. Obama and the democrats had nothing to do with it.

That should cover it. Feel free to reprint when needed.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

Take note: universal healthcare will happen.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 months ago

The sooner the better.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

Yep.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 months ago

And none of this BS varying standards of care. All get the same coverage = covered 100%

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 months ago

There is so much room for improvement - gotta get corp(se)oRATions out of government to make any kind of dent in improving though - I think.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (31204) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 minutes ago

That's just it - we have a shortage of Dr. (s) so the Nursing staff is being made to do more - we don't have near enough medical facilities - so people are sent home the day after having a heart transplant - and we can not ( or will not ) staff the facilities we do have sufficiently - so now nurses need to be on call? What is this SHIT??? ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink

Nope. They are placing them on call so that they don't have to pay them. Profit before people.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 months ago

Of course - that should be obvious - another downturn in care in a for profit system. Another downturn for the worker as well - as the greedy continue to push our faces into the mud.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (21783) 5 months ago

Well, there was a time when addressing crap like...........consolidation would have been helpful. How about the nurses on strike because they were moved to on call? Nope on either.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 months ago

That's just it - we have a shortage of Dr. (s) so the Nursing staff is being made to do more - we don't have near enough medical facilities - so people are sent home the day after having a heart transplant - and we can not ( or will not ) staff the facilities we do have sufficiently - so now nurses need to be on call? What is this SHIT???