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Forum Post: Obama "Yes we can" but in reality he cannot

Posted 10 years ago on Jan. 19, 2012, 10:35 a.m. EST by muddFlapp (-108)
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We can take Unemployment from 6 % to 9%...Yes we can

We can take gasoline from $1.80 to $3.50/gal…..Yes we can

We can increase the national debt by $ 5 Trillion in 3 years…...Yes we can

We can get more people on welfare & food stamps…Yes we can

We can double the number of homes in foreclosure…Yes we can

We can eliminate 2 Million jobs from this country…Yes we can

We can give away $ 500 Million to Solyndra…..Yes we can

We can fly all over the country Campaigning on Air Force One…Yes we can

We can visit all 57states….Yes we can

We can down grade the US credit rating for the first time in history…Yes we can

We can increase the cost of heating oil to over $ 3.00 a gallon…Yes we can

We can decrease the sales of homes to its lowest level in 20 years.....yes we can

We can play the race card any time we want…Yes we can

We can run this economy without a budget...Yes we can

We can pass laws without Congress…Yes we can

We can create a health care bill that nobody wants…..Yes we can

We can cut our Military leaving the country weak…Yes we can

We can sit idly by while Iran builds nuclear weapons…Yes we can

We can discourage any drilling for oil in the US….Yes we can

We can go to Hawaii anytime we want For Free…..Yes we can

We can quit smoking cigarettes…ooops….No we can’t



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[-] 3 points by bakerybabies (5) 10 years ago

Stop propping up large companies and corrupt political views. People on OWS don't buy crap anymore, haven't you heard?

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23679) 10 years ago

Right!!!! Obama's to blame for the downgrade of the US credit rating. Nobody believes that. That was due to the shenanigans of your beloved Tea Party. Yes, we all pay a higher interest rate on our nation's debt because of the Tea Party. No one else, the Tea Party.

[-] 1 points by TedIV (40) 10 years ago

Maybe this occupy has become more of a political ballerina than a stand on what is wrong and what to do..I am a long time protester and this problem became a problem thanks to the efforts a a group of people called republicans who in the early 70's dismantled our monetary system and sold our gold that backed it and then have been hostage to the country that it was sold to cause that country went and bought up a lot of our american dollar, and this country all the while claiming its innocents and being in economic disaster turned out they were just doing the pity pat shuffle and now have us hostage cause once they flood the market with that gold we are????what?? Our problem was not the bailouts it was what those corp execs did with the money other than a bail out, can u name several companies that took the bailout and did the right thing with it?? come on try!!! I SAID TRY!!!! misinfo is our worst enemy and it should not be tolerated on any occupy forum or site that occupy has on the net...Thanks http://occupytogether.com/forum/discussion/2170/monetary-system-and-todays-crisis..

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

We can cut our Military leaving the country weak…Yes we can

congress and the president passed a law allowing the military to detain people indefinitely without telling the public

[-] -1 points by muddFlapp (-108) 10 years ago

Police forces are now being equipped with hand held body scanners. They can scan people for guns, etc as they are walking down the street.


[-] -1 points by ssjkakkarotx (-77) 10 years ago

lol good stuff huh

[-] -2 points by Kirby (104) 10 years ago

Why would you want to confuse the anarchists and libertarian socialist hanging around on this site with such silly, ridiculous facts? Top down massive, central government is ahat these people love. More laws, more regulation, more stifling of our freedom and liberty. The original great idea of protesting to get money out of politics that OWS started out with was nothing but a Marxist front.

[-] 2 points by francismjenkins (3713) 10 years ago

Why would you say OWS is a "Marxist front"? What evidence do you have supporting this contention? I think the people who started this thing are largely anarchists (in the tradition of Bakunin, Godwin, Goldman, Kropotkin, more recently, Chomskey, etc.), but not libertarian in the tradition of people like Hoppe, Rockwell, or Rothbard.

I'm really not sure how committed people are to syndicalism, or if people are open to other forms of anarchism, but I can say with a decent degree of confidence, the form of anarchism endorsed by people like Hoppe, Rockwell, and Rothbard, has nothing in common with OWS. I think (speaking for myself anyway) that people like Rothbard have little regard for civil rights (and seem to defend property rights over all other rights, or at least when there's conflict between civil rights and property rights, they will choose property rights). In other words, these people don't even have the barest sense of community, and seem to romanticize individualism even more than most Marxists romanticize collectivism.

[-] -2 points by Kirby (104) 10 years ago

Because FJ, when I read post after post after dreaded post, all i read is occupy this, occupy that, on and on. Government do this and government needs to do that. It just seems obvious.

[-] 3 points by francismjenkins (3713) 10 years ago

How are conservatives less statist or corporatist compared to liberals (which seems to be the implication of your comments)? I'm not going to defend either, but isn't it true that conservatives vigorously support perpetual growth in our military and homeland security infrastructure? Isn't the idea of a homeland security department with vast funding, reach, and authority, just as Orwellian (or more so) as our vast array of regulatory agencies (such as EPA, FDA, SEC, HHS, etc.)? Moreover, do you deny that private parties can accumulate so much wealth and power ... that they can potentially become a defacto state, and threaten individual liberty just as much as any government?

[-] -2 points by Kirby (104) 10 years ago

I am not for statism, regardless of who perpetuates the ideology. Homeland security is a massive piece of shit, that could be streamlined incredibly. For example, why does TSA take care of airport security? The airlines could do a much better job without infringing on our rights, because they have a vested interest in keeping their planes safe. TSA on trains and subways now. Too much government is bad government.

[-] 1 points by francismjenkins (3713) 10 years ago

I don't really disagree with you here. I'd say, homeland security was an overreaction in the first place (and we should just get rid of it & allow the agencies now under its umbrella, to become the independent agencies they were prior to Bush).

I want to be clear. What Bush did was to concentrate and centralize power in a real and demonstrable way. He took numerous independent agencies (the National Guard, Coast Guard, Customs and Border Patrol, INS, FEMA, and other agencies) and put them under the central control of its current parent agency, Homeland Security.

Moreover, when republicans decry the abuses of "trail lawyers" it is really a call to even more centralization of power. Our Constitution contains a supremacy clause. That is, when there's a conflict between state and federal law, federal law usually wins. So when the federal government establishes a regulatory scheme, like for instance an agency that regulates oil drilling (e.g. offshore oil rigs), it either has to specifically enumerate that a cause of action can still be filed in state courts, under a common law tort theory, or in some cases, it will and can specifically preempt suits in state courts, or where the law is silent, state level suits are still extremely challenging (and often the federal regulatory scheme will be held to preempt a state suit).

This represents a concentration of power that largely goes unnoticed by most people. If state level suits were easier, it makes every lawyer in the country, every judge, state legal body, county, city, etc., a potential regulator. In some cases it may be desirable to have a federal scheme in place, which creates a consistent body of laws, but in most cases the ability to sue is overly limited. This puts regulatory power exclusively in the hands of federal regulators, and makes it much easier for companies to game the system and get away with negligence.

So republicans like centralized power as much as democrats, they just want to centralize power in favor of their interests (corporations and the wealthy). One of the features of our system that was important to our founders, was decentralization of power. The desire was to create a system where there were as many independent and competing interests as possible, so there were always natural checks and balances in place to prevent the over concentration of power, and the natural abuses that come with it.

[+] -4 points by muddFlapp (-108) 10 years ago

And this is only 21 of the hundreds of reasons why Obama is a one term idiot

[+] -7 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 10 years ago

which represents the number of holes in your own feet - must be kinda hard walkin on them bloody stumps . . .

why don't you just go occupy eternity . . .

[+] -4 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 10 years ago


Repelican -

  • is a term of approbation,

  • a proof,

  • derogatory in nature,

  • intended to shame

  • and to ridicule

  • those who run for high office

  • upon a platform of lies before the whole world

  • and have not the decency to blush bright crimson.

  • they are reprehensible.

  • they are repulsive.

  • they are repellent.

  • they are repelicans . . . .


[+] -5 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 10 years ago


  • lie to us some more

I kinda like it . . .



And here we have another classic example of what exactly, is wrong with the repelican party and a clear demonstration of why, precisely, their reign over American politics is DONE.

Repelicans cannot debate on the issues - the facts do not support them.

Their only recourse is to engage in lies, spin, historical revision, and distortions of reality, it is the only way to get people to support their policy.

It is quite clear -

  • the costs of gas and heating oil - mentioned twice in the list, to fatten this list and increase its prominence - is directly related to three things

    • Peak oil production -

    • geopolitical instability in regions of oil production

    • oil futures speculation

And the health care bill, cited as a bill no one wants - here is a simple, blatant lie. I want it. I know a lot of people who do. In fact, there are so many that do want it it passed Congress -

but go ahead. Lie some more.

Down grading the U.S. economy -

  • REPELICANS managed that, with brinkmanship over the budget debate

but go ahead, and lie to us some more

  • the repelican party is DONE



[-] 2 points by bakerybabies (5) 10 years ago

I feel the same way and just a side note, I want it as well! lol To the Original poster: People like you help hold open the mouth of the monsters eating our towns. Boooo! Like the transformers we will join together and make a monster ourselves that will take the beast down! We are done, we want health care we want jobs we want education we will have it! It's just like a republican to come on the OWS forum and spew this crap unfortunately for you the people on here don't buy the crap anymore so good luck!