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Forum Post: Obama supporter purge initiated by OWS bots

Posted 11 years ago on May 16, 2012, 2:17 p.m. EST by arkanosUSERDATAFETCHERBOT (0)
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Dear users,

OWS is using a small bot army to purge the website from Obama supporters, and/or supporters for any other political party. These users will see their comments down voted. The goal is to discourage them from using this website as a political platform. OWS is anarchy. We are against demands, we are against playing into politics.

Thank you for understanding, and let's keep the revolution coming!

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[-] 4 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 11 years ago

Does that include using those bots on posts discouraging others from voting, or is it pure one-sided hypocrisy?

You are a troll, and a dictator. Anarchy has NEVER been about not voting. OWS does NOT exist to discourage its practice. OWS is simply separate from the process.

Discouraging voting on the left serves to split only the left. It has no effect, since it has no audience, on the far right. As such, encouraging electoral disaffection is only helping one side and is in fact a form of partisan politics.

OWS has never used bots for anything. It has always been about open speech and dialogue. If you are unleashing bots, you are doing it on your own with ZERO authority, you are in violation of the basic foundations of OWS, and you're too far gone to even recognize that. You should be globally banned for that.

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[-] -3 points by po6059 (72) 11 years ago

and the child stomps its foot.

[-] 5 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 11 years ago

Really? This bot tactic is not anarchism, it is autocracy, the very thing anarchism opposes. Anarchism believes that the means ARE the ends. If the means are autocratic, the end is autocratic, and goes against everything OWS was created to fight against.

Too bad you don't see that. Maybe you should learn a little something about anarchism.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

Why not just delete?

Hey? Sad Sack? Hhmmmm?

[-] 2 points by francismjenkins (3713) 11 years ago

By a screen name that was created "today" (why am I not surprised)?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

the time for OWS to become political is fast approaching.

[-] 1 points by francismjenkins (3713) 11 years ago

May it never be ... I mean; that OWS supporters naturally gravitate towards the left end of the political spectrum is fine (I'm certainly at the left end of the political spectrum), but if OWS became a political organization, it would destroy itself (this idea is completely inconsistent with its principles). The price of political partisanship is a price we cannot pay while remaining true to our virtues.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

The strangest thing is, it's always been about politics.

It can't not be about politics,

[-] 1 points by francismjenkins (3713) 11 years ago

Right, it's about politics, but at the same time it's not about politics. It took me a while to get it :)

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 11 years ago

That is a good idea and a bad idea at the same time.

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[-] 2 points by epa1nter (4650) from Rutherford, NJ 11 years ago

"This content is user submitted and not an official statement"

So the OP is not a mod or an administrator.

Anarchy is about direct democracy, not autocratic decisions by a troll. Making sure no viewpoint other than his individual zealotry can tolerate will be read by the people here is not direct democracy and is a serious betrayal of the values inherent in anarchy.

His job is to shrink OWS to a thimbleful of people, and eliminate all other supporters who have been here helping from the very beginning of the movement.

[-] 0 points by anarkastik (-3) 11 years ago

With all due respect your analysis is flawed.

Anarchism is based on such principles as direct democracy, but this bot behavior is not a breach of those principles. On the contrary, it is an enforcement of decisions made in a general assembly with direct democracy. There is nothing autocratic at all.

You see, the decision that OWS would be based on anarchy predates naturally predates the creation of general assemblies which use direct democracy. And, the idea to fight co-option from various groups including political party affiliates was made in a general assembly near the beginning of Occupy. Hence, this forum comes with certain rules. Is it then autocratic to ask that the posters follow these rules, rules which were decided upon using direct democracy?

The forum rules clearly state that political party advertisements will not be accepted here. This site was designed for discussions about anarchy including such things as planning occupations throughout the country. It was not designed to support administrations such as the Obama administration or any other party like the republicans, etc...

We do not say anything about right to vote, we simply state that talking about voting strategies and advertising your parties or choice should be done on another website. This website IS NOT for this type of discussion as per a decision made with direct democracy in a general assembly.

If you do not agree with the forum rules, I suggest you bring up the matter in your local GA so that they can contact the NYCGA to propose a rectification of the rules. As of now, no decision was officially made to drop the anarchistic aspects of Occupy which includes saying away from political activities like making demands to the government and talking about political parties.

You seem to think you are above the forum rules and that anything can be discussed here. That is not the case. This forum has a specific purpose. We don't accept posters using this site to share recipes just like we don't accept political discussions. There are many other sites on the web for this. Use them.

As proof that the moderators, jart, and others are not on your side, look at this post which as been shadow banned. This indicates that the admins are here. However, they choose not to stop the bots.

The fact is, this post was made by anarchists, not republicans. We want anarchist talk, not political talk.

Thank you for following the forum rules.

[-] -1 points by TheMisfit (48) 11 years ago

Test

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[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 years ago

Hmmm. Your the same dick nose as last week, ain't ya?