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Forum Post: Obama and the USA Crushing Iran Currency

Posted 5 years ago on Oct. 2, 2012, 9:01 p.m. EST by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL
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This is what leads to war. You can only push someone into a corner so far before they spit at you.

While the public believes we are in the middle of an election (an election that is meaningless and already paid for on both sides) they are blind as usual as to what is happening behind the PR curtains.

The US is setting up another war, a big one, and it really doesnt matter who is going to take hold of the Senate, or if the two bumbling idiots that America looks at as leaders gaffe it up in their debates.

The US and its cronies are crushing the currency of the Iranian people. This, like all currency manipulation, crushes the poor hardest. This is your government folks. Keep focusing on lesser of two evils here while they systematically destroy whatever and whoever comes in their path.




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[-] 2 points by LeoYo (5909) 5 years ago

Western Powers Double Down on Syria's Destruction

Wednesday, 03 October 2012 12:47 By Shamus Cooke, Countercurrents | Op-Ed


"The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those, who in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality." - Dante

The world watches as a nation is torn, slow motion, at the seams. Money and geopolitics has caused a feeding frenzy of western nations biting and tearing at Syria, all hoping to profit from the regime's destruction.

Toward this effort, England, France, and the United States announced increased support to the "rebels" of Syria. The Obama administration promised $45 million more in funding for aid that has now totaled $175 million (is it any wonder there are budget problems inside the U.S.?).

And although much of the U.S. aid is designated as "humanitarian," this money will directly help the military mission by bolstering the prestige of opposition groups, who will use the U.S. aid to gain adherents by being able to feed and house refugees fleeing the destruction (assuming that not all of this money will simply be used to buy guns).

Of course there is no accounting of the amount of money and arms the CIA is funneling into the country. But even The New York Times has admitted the CIA's involvement; in June it wrote:

"A small number of C.I.A. officers are operating secretly in southern Turkey, helping allies decide which Syrian opposition fighters across the border will receive arms to fight the Syrian government, according to American officials and Arab intelligence officers...the weapons, including automatic rifles, rocket-propelled grenades, ammunition and some antitank weapons, are being funneled mostly across the Turkish border by way of a shadowy network of intermediaries including Syria's Muslim Brotherhood and paid for by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, the officials said."

There you have the Syrian opposition in a nutshell: groups of mercenaries funded by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United States and France, and the Muslim Brotherhood inside Syria. All of these groups have their own self-interest in toppling the Syrian government, while destroying the country and its people in the process.

Saudi Arabia has used the Muslim Brotherhood as a key tool in its foreign policy for decades, funding the organization in countries all over the Middle East and North Africa. When Saudi Arabia beckons, the Muslim Brotherhood and associated groups can be used to destabilize "unfriendly" regimes in the name of "jihad" — officially declared by clerics who work in tandem with the Saudi Arabian government to recruit fighters for the effort. This is why there are "terrorist" groups now fighting to overthrow the Syrian government, including Al Qaeda — itself born from the purse strings of Saudi Arabia, like the Taliban (there is an excellent chapter about this dynamic in Vijay Prashad's book, the Darker Nations).

It is very revealing that, after the U.S. has spent hundreds of millions of dollars and large amounts of weaponry has been trafficked into the country, the Syrian government still controls the vast majority of the country. This is because the majority of people inside Syria do not support the so-called Syrian Opposition. If this were the case, the Syrian government would have long since been overthrown. The revolutionaries of Egypt and Tunisia did not need any outside help in toppling their government, nor large amounts of money or weaponry. Therefore, the steady destruction of Syria will continue until it reaches a Libya-like crescendo: a "no fly zone" will be the goal of the western powers, with the motive of toppling the regime.

But like in Libya, a no fly zone equals total war. Syria has advanced Russian-made surface-to-air missiles, which must be destroyed to enforce such a no fly zone. Syria also has fighter jets that must be destroyed. Additional ground support must be destroyed. And like Libya, once the bombs start dropping, the mission quickly changes from a "no fly zone" to "regime change," i.e., war.

But Syria has a much more powerful army than Libya, requiring that the U.S. military become directly involved in the war, as opposed to outsourcing the conflict to England and France as they did in Libya. Only the U.S. military and its subordinate allies have the required weapons to deal with Syria's Russian-made weaponry.

But the American people hate war, and thus the U.S. government must introduce the Syrian war slowly, through non-stop anti-Syria media coverage, in the hopes that opinion polls shift enough to allow direct military intervention, as opposed to the current indirect type. What do the people of Syria really want? The New York Times revealed that, inside Syria, a group of twenty opposition groups recently met in Syria's capital to demand that Syria's democratic transition happen peacefully, in effect denouncing the armed rebels who are being funded by foreign nations.

The international implications of this war have already begun to manifest. Neighboring countries are experiencing stress and destabilization by the flood of refugees from Syria. The Kurds in Syria may soon call for independence, which will incite further violence from Turkey. Hezbollah, based in Lebanon, and Iran will work doubly hard to re-enforce the Syrian government as western powers do the opposite.

Ethnic and religious tensions are being stoked in all neighboring countries, which has already led to violence and will be used by politicians in those countries for political aims, leading to more violence. It's also possible if an official war is declared against Syria, other powers will use the chaos as a shield to pursue their own interests —Israel for example, may opportunistically bomb Iran. Whatever the course of events, the emerging war in Syria has the potential not only to turn the Middle East into dust, but to drag larger powers like Russia — an ally of Syria — into conflict with the United States.

All working people in the United States have a duty to denounce this U.S.-made humanitarian tragedy and the future threat of war.

This piece was reprinted by Truthout with permission or license.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

Ya, my brother told me that one. The gov is going to probably be plugging that group to take over once we dethrone the current regime.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 5 years ago


[-] 2 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 5 years ago

Why does the U.S. choose to bring an entire country to it's knees by choking it's economic life into unconsciousness. It's like abusing an entire family for the crimes of the father. A just and moral country would never do this.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

No it wouldnt, you are right.

[-] 1 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 5 years ago

they think Assad and Syria are almost done. so peaceful society expecting provocation to start the holy war against evil.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 5 years ago

In reality, their doctrine is one of conquest. So in that regard Iran is guilty of the reaction it gets just as we are guilty of acting on such doctrine. The fault rests with the US, Israel, and Iran. Bombs clearly do not serve the people of any of these countries, but somehow that is always their solution. Blew everything up, all better now. It defies logic.


[-] 0 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 5 years ago

if planet breaks apart naive sun will continue shining

[-] 0 points by yobstreet (-575) 5 years ago

What I don't understand is that since all agree that the Muslims are a peace loving people, and that Iran intends no harm, and presents no threat, then why all the hoopla about enrichment technology? Why not simply sell them a few nukes, bring all of this silliness of indecisiveness to a close, and reap the profits of that peace?

[-] 0 points by doitagain (234) from Brooklyn, NY 5 years ago

only masters can have a rifle


[-] 0 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

I believe Obama is more concerned with the TPP than with Iran. http://www.ustr.gov/tpp

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

War with Iran would be the perfect time to sign it.

China got into the WTO shortly after 9/11.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

Iran is just a distraction for much bigger things. It takes more than oil to make the world turn.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

It takes central banks in every soveirgn nation. Iran is the last few hold outs. Take out Iran and Venezuela will fall right in line.

Then it leaves just N Korea.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 5 years ago

Can you explain this in a bit more depth?

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

Im not sure of my depth of knowledge on this, but I believe there were 6 nations 10 years ago without central banks- Afghanistan, Iraq, N korea, Venezuela, and....wait for it.....Libya!! (hmmmm).

Now there are three left, and we are naturally moving down the list.

Control the currency of a nation, and you control everything. Although Russian and China have recently signed an agreement to ignore the dollar in international trade, so that may put a hole in my arguement.

But I do see us slowly marching through the list, so it must be very important in some scheme.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 5 years ago

The Central Bank of Iran (CBI) was established in 1960. So how does Iran fit in?

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

I did a little research, and perhpas because they instituted a new on after the overthrow in 1979 it is no longer funtioning as a central bank? Going out on a limb here.

[-] -1 points by yobstreet (-575) 5 years ago

Very sneaky, that was my impression at the time.

[-] -1 points by hazencage (58) 5 years ago

sounds like more conspiracy crap. The reality is that it probably has more to do with the balance of trade, and finally does Iran still tie the value of their currency to oil? I know they tried it in the past.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

No conspiracy, its right there in the markets.

Balance of trade doesnt move like that in one day. That was a statement to them about who runs what.

Similar to the flash crash in May 2010.