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Forum Post: Obama And Romney Both Favor A One World Economic System That Kills American Jobs By Michael, on October 21st, 2012

Posted 1 year ago on Oct. 29, 2012, 7:47 p.m. EST by notaneoliberal (2269)
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Either way this election turns out, American jobs are going to continue to get slaughtered by the millions. During this campaign, Mitt Romney and Barack Obama have both attempted to portray each other as the "outsourcer in chief". Unfortunately, they are both right. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have both participated in the outsourcing of American jobs, and both are openly admitting to the American people that they favor the emerging one world economic system which will continue to destroy millions of American jobs. In fact, they argue with each other about which of them will be more aggressive in pursuing more "free trade" agreements over the next four years. Unfortunately, the "free trade" agreements that the U.S. government enters into are never "fair trade" agreements. As a result, over the past decade we have lost tens of thousands of businesses, millions of jobs and trillions of dollars of national wealth. This year alone, we will buy about half a trillion dollars more stuff from the rest of the world than they will buy from us. This trade deficit will be about 7 times larger than the trade deficit of any other nation on earth. Our economy will continue to bleed jobs at a horrifying pace, but Obama and Romney insist that the answer to our problems is even more "free trade". What makes all of this even more dreadful is that most Americans continue to fall for this nonsense. Read on; http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/obama-and-romney-both-favor-a-one-world-economic-system-that-kills-american-jobs

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[-] 2 points by Weaver (60) 1 year ago

We have more choices than the 2 chosen for us. Occupy the election - vote for anybody but a Democrat or Republican. They are 2 sides of the same coin. Vote according to your values.

[-] 1 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 1 year ago

Two Wings of the same bird !

[-] 2 points by Weaver (60) 1 year ago

a vulture?

[-] 1 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 1 year ago

oh, yes !

I must remember to use that in the future . .

Two wings of the same bird, a vulture . . .

Things can turn around though, but not before we do something different.

Our country was established by men of faith and prayer.

[-] 1 points by notaneoliberal (2269) 1 year ago

Unfortunately, I think this time around we will get stuck with one side of that coin or the other. Let's hope by the next election we can do better.

[-] 2 points by Weaver (60) 1 year ago

Those who vote otherwise this time will encourage others to vote otherwise in the future. Please don't downplay. Encourage action.

[-] 1 points by notaneoliberal (2269) 1 year ago

I would not criticize anyone who votes for a third party. At the very least, it could serve as a wake up call.

[-] 2 points by Weaver (60) 1 year ago

Exactly the way I see it. People call it a waste of a vote. I think it is a waste to vote for someone who does not share your values. People say "they won't win." I am not voting for the winner, I am voting for a better future.

[-] 3 points by gnomunny (6614) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

We're probably going to see more people voting for various Independents this election than ever before. I've talked four people in my household to vote third-party this time. They didn't plan on voting AT ALL. If only more would've done the same.

[-] 3 points by Weaver (60) 1 year ago

Very good. Keep talking.

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6614) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Four down, two to go!

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (26178) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Unless you are talking about the state elections which are not out of reach for change - if you are talking about making a presidential change this time around ( which is not as important as senate and congress - except 4 mittens can not be allowed to win ) - well then you must be a Dream weaver

[-] 2 points by Weaver (60) 1 year ago

. . . but I'm not the only one. I am not talking about outcome based action. I am encouraging people to dare to act. If not now, when?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26178) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Yes NOW on races that can be won NOW. A third party has no chance at the presidency this time around - but changes can be made in the state and federal houses.

[-] 2 points by Weaver (60) 1 year ago

I have been told for forty years that “this election is too close” to throw our vote away on a third party. It will always be so; it is contrived to be so. In fact, in spite of all the hype about how disparate the two parties are, they are actually merely two aspects of the same paradigm and their enraged rhetoric merely serves to distract from this truth.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

It's all about the electoral college, isn't it?

The presidency, I mean.

[-] 2 points by Weaver (60) 1 year ago

Unfortunately, yes. They are not even bound to vote for the populous choice. Thankfully, decorum usually dictates and they do. Historically, 3rd parties have received electoral college votes. Actually, 2 party control has not been the way for a lot of our history.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Meaning that along with excluding third parties from the debate process, the two-party system is not that new?

Our Westminster system (in Australia) is a lot different, but then, we only have half a dozen states and a couple of territories. Minority players, like the greens and independents can end up with inordinate power, due to the two majors having to suck up to them to gain the "balance of power" which is an absurd term, when you think about it.

[-] 3 points by Weaver (60) 1 year ago

Found this history of the elections: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781450.html The two party system is merely what is now - not part of the constitution. The powers in control can control it more easily this way. They have to keep the people convinced that acting outside that system is fruitless. Historically, self-righting movements in this country have come from an outside party. I encourage USA occupiers to step out of the box and vote for anybody but a Democrat or Republican.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Thanks for the link.

And here's one in return.

http://www.99rise.org/

[-] 2 points by Weaver (60) 1 year ago

Thanks. I was glad to see up front on the home page their statement that they are nonviolent. V is a violent character. I don’t like seeing his face around OCCUPY events. Although he championed the victimized, he is a violent vindictive character. Gandhi could not have achieved what he did if he had caved in to violence. I believe that the success of the occupy movement will be determined by how non-violent it is. Well, I have gotten far from the original forum post. Time to stop.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (26178) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

The important changes to make ( besides keeping mittens and ayn out of office ) are in the senate and congress - to get people that support the people in office that will forward legislation that supports the people.

[-] 2 points by notaneoliberal (2269) 1 year ago

I also hope that by next election, there will be a real shot for an alternative.

[-] 1 points by Weaver (60) 1 year ago

Shall we work on an OCCUPY candidate? 99% of the vote is a majority

[-] 3 points by notaneoliberal (2269) 1 year ago

Well, let's not kid ourselves. While many here are attempting to look out for the interest of the "99%", many of those consistently act and vote in a manner contrary to there own self interest. There is a lot of work to do to inform and educate.

[-] 1 points by Weaver (60) 1 year ago

I was speaking tongue-in-cheek. We are not ideologically a unit, but an economic one. I, too, hope that by the next election there will be a real shot for an alternative. Until then I am voting against corporate power.

[-] 1 points by notaneoliberal (2269) 1 year ago

I guess I should have known it was a tongue-in-cheek reply, but here, you never know. I do hope though, that the occupy movement empowers a real change in direction in what people see as possible.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

trade agreements need to be reformed to abide by American Labor standards.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

"What makes all of this even more dreadful is that most Americans continue to fall for this nonsense"

Exactly.

[-] 2 points by notaneoliberal (2269) 1 year ago

It is sad that they can both get away with talking about outsourcing. Obama talks about increased exports, but doesn't mention that imports have greatly exceeded them. What a joke.

[-] 0 points by Futurevision1 (-75) 1 year ago

Then what of globalism? Many people support and encourage it.

[-] 1 points by notaneoliberal (2269) 1 year ago

Many people have suppoted a lot of things that were very bad ideas. Globalism, in the interest of exploiting slave wages needs to be ended.

[-] 0 points by Brython (-146) 1 year ago

I would agree with your assessment. And I think it effects all of us in one way or another.

[-] 2 points by notaneoliberal (2269) 1 year ago

Thank you, and yes it does affect all of us. It is draining the national wealth.