Forum Post: NY marathon canceled - reality triumphs over attempt at spin - that everything is just fine - Look We Had The Marathon - NOT.
Posted 11 years ago on Nov. 3, 2012, 10:18 a.m. EST by DKAtoday
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Yeah imagine holding the marathon in the midst of great damage and devastation - holding the marathon even though resources would be pulled away from recovery work. Kicking people out of Hotels ( people whose homes are destroyed or at the moment unlivable ) - so that people can rent them for purposes of visiting for the marathon.
So Sorry - the marathon is not a priority at the moment.
Sanity has prevailed for a moment - marathon canceled
BTW - sorry to those of you who made the trip only to be told after arrival that the marathon had been canceled. Would have been nice if sanity had prevailed earlier - like the day the storm made landfall and all of the destruction became real rather then wondered about - just think if rational people had been in charge the cancellation announcement could have been made days ago.
A lot of the marathoners were in Staten Island yesterday helping with relief efforts, so some good came out of it
Yep - I saw that - a marathoner here in Minnesota cancelled from the marathon and ran a local marathon here in Minnesota to raise support.
Good morning DKA,
Good Point. The deceptive spin 'everything is ok' thing. They tell us about recovery when some little statistic supposedly beat expectations, while the opposite is obvious.
Hey Nevada - and a good morning to you. Yeah it really sucks when those in power/charge downplay the seriousness of situations - so that they don't look bad - by distraction - Hey everything is just fine and dandy - we have no poor or homeless or unemployed or underpaid - LOOK LOOK - We Are Having a Marathon - YAY!!!
Tweeted. People consider how misguided that thought was - to continue with the marathon - even though for one thing - there was no where to house the visitors.
Is there anyone on here who can give tips on who to contact for help from this forum. We are about to get hit again, and are wondering if you out there know what help is available or how to stop this massive destruction that is taking place on the east coast? I see a lot of posts on here, but no answers to how to get help or who knows what is really going on with all these storms tearing up the country.. Any one?
also - you may be interested in: http://occupywallst.org/forum/occupy-and-sandy-storm-recovery-resources/
Click the about link - button - on the top right of your screen - that will give you this sites direct contact information to OWS.
The forum, is just a forum.
Try one of the links listed here.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/occupy-and-sandy-storm-recovery-resources/
Thanks.....forum, is just a forum"
I guess I expected too much.....
We hope for the best here, but expect the worst
Bless everyone who is helping.
GoodNight GoodMorning GoodDay GoodAfternoon GoodEvening EverBody!!!
Well, now that it's cancelled, it's not all sweetness and light. A lot of cabbies with families to feed will be making a lot less money this weekend. A lot of waiters and waitresses with families to feed will be making a lot less in tips. And so on. And the hotel rooms? They'll be empty. A room at a tourist hotel in Manhatten costs $400-$600 a night this time of year. I doubt most of the folks from Staten Island can afford that.
From what I understand and heard on the news is that generators that could have been used to provide power for over 400 homes were sitting idle to be used by the news media - that pissed lots of people off.
Hotels that were being used by the homeless were going to be used for the people who came in for the event and those homless people were to be removed - by force if necessary - that pissed lots of people off.
How can an individual like Bloomberg think that a "marathon" is going to help - it's only going to help people who don't need help because is was being held were there was already electricity.
Bloomberg is an idiot and needs to be voted out the next election - putting a marathon ahead of a catastrophy thinking it would help those in need - yah - right.
Are you a natural born idiot? or do you just work at it - a lot?
BTW - do you play the fiddle?
Seriously, name-calling aside: I bet those cabbies and waiters didn't make much Monday or Tuesday, and having been a cabbie at one point in my life, I can tell you that big events like that are big money days for people in that line of work. You look forward to them, and depend on them for a good part of your income. So whether you care to acknowledge it or not, all those folks took it in the shorts when they cancelled the race. And that means that a lot of hard-working, blue collar folks will have lost most of an entire week's income. As for hotel prices, I speak from personal experience. I am in Manhatten on business very regularly, and stay at those hotels.
Why do you fInd it so offensive that someone should point these things out? Is the discussion here so completely out of touch with reality that our clucking in moral outrage cannot be tempered by an acknowledgment that other people are adversely affected in other ways?
When is asking a question - name calling? I asked if you were a natural born idiot - I did not call you one.
Your comments speak for them self.
Gas shortage in the wake of the Hurricane as well as housing shortage as well as power outages as well as food shortages.
And You want to have a party.
This time I will call you that name - U R an idiot.
And you, sir, are an ass. An ignorant ass. The money not spent when the party was cancelled isn't going to help anyone. It has left the city. That benefits no one.
You are a total idiot - doing damage recovery from a major disaster is no time to be entertaining guests. Getting things repaired and debris removed is 1st concern.
Resources for those living in the area are stretched tight as is - you would further stress relief efforts by shifting resources to entertainment?
And you continue to be an arrogant and ignorant ass. Police protection, medical staff and the rest are paid for by the race organizers. It's an easy payday at overtime rates for all of those personnel, without the taxpayers picking up the tab. The city, which has already taken a huge financial hit, loses a gigantic chunk of tax revenue,and will also no doubt have to refund all of the fees already paid by the race organizers. And, all of those working class people who stood to make a buck off of it - cabbies, waiters, street vendors, restauants, etc., etc., etc., will lose out, after already having lost out earlier in the week. All without materially helping anyone - I'd doubt that the diversion of resources from the race wil make much of a difference.
Your comments prove that misery does indeed love company: the thought of someone else having fun is so very annoying that it must be prevented, even if doing so is counterproductive.
Sorry that you are so challenged mentally.
Fact of the matter - the storm = 1000 miles in diameter = wide spread damage over several states = requires housing food fuel equipment personnel services for damage repair - this includes transportation services to haul supplies materials.
There is not any good reason to pull these things any of them away from straight-up recovery work.
You f'n blind(?) idiot.
And you're a fucking moron. Worse, you're an arrogant moron at that. You obviously don't get it, but the "party" as you put it, is what they call a "tourist economy." And in a place like NYC, several hundred thousand people, from cooks to street vendors to shop keepers to cab drivers to bellhops to a thousand other jobs are absolutely dependent upon the "party" -- the tourist economy -- for their livelihood. And every time a big event get cancelled, it's a big chunk of money right out of their pockets. And when it comes right after an event that for most of them killed several days of income already, what the fuck do you expect them to feed their kids with, a fucking OWS flyer? I'm pretty sure that most of them would have preferred a big fat tip from a marathon partier.
So can we at least expect that you'll be consistent with your own reasoning and refrain from pleasures and recreations whilst NYC is rebuilt, or is yours a different case from the people of NYC?
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It took you three days to come up with that rejoinder? Case of single remaining brain cell overheating or what?
I have two things you don't seem to have, my friend -- a job and a life. I have time to waste on you only when I'm sitting here watching a computer program run some complex calculations and I have nothing else to do but can't leave. Your idiot-level arguments aren't worth bothering with the rest of the time.
Here, I will do it. It was paid for this is true.
It is also true that there are people that are dependent on that income. But, we are also banking on that all of the people that profit from this event were going to work at businesses that were up and running and/or not running out of gas if you drive a cab and/or are not contending with their own personal loss.
There are those that own businesses that are willing to put their employees in danger as long as they keep the business open. They demonstrated this before, during and after Sandy. It's a double edge sword, no?
My understanding is that over 1,000 dropped from the race before it hit. In some ways, to carry on would have been the best way to operate. In others, not so much. We have no idea if the already paid for people had also lost much. It would have been viewed as a slap in the face for many people. One more way to demonstrate that they are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Many people are in shock and will show symptoms of PTSD and some of those that are seemingly resilient now may experience that when for all intensive purposes life has returned to normal. Canceling it may prove to be beneficial in the long term.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/new-york-daily-news-joins-growing-number-of-newspa/
Why do I care if the New York Post and the Daily support Romney?
I am an ows member and just conducting a survey
Good luck with that.
peace with you and see ya at the next rally
The thing is, the Mayor waited to cancel it until yesterday, so MOST of the runners and press and people who would have been in town for the race ARE in town-only no race. It might even be WHY he failed to cancel it until the last minute-because he wanted that money to remain in and around New York.