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Forum Post: Now What

Posted 2 years ago on Oct. 15, 2011, 7:23 p.m. EST by peacescientist (169)
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Im not sure if the protesting in and of itself will be a means to an end. I am hoping it will be the means for a new beginning in local development of manufacturing and entrepreneurship.

If we invest our money into building locally owned manufacturing plants that produce green products we can put these large corporations out of business in America.

We need to use this momentum to start planning for how we are going to take our money back.

This can be as simple as hydroponic gardening to be used as materials in biofuels and bioiplastics manufacturing. Every state can have some sort of farm or green manufacturing plant bringing jobs into the economy

If we start by putting corporations out of business than there is nothing they can do about it This is the time to organize our efforts and put all of this energy into what really matters

We need people with ideas who are willing to put together business plans for co-opted green manufacturing, we need scientists to develop firm strategies for bio-polymer synthesis, we need everyone onboard to invest in the rebuilding of America's manufacturing industry on a local level.

There is a place for everyone, and a way for those who want it to get their fair shake. It is time to stop expecting that anyone is going to give us anything and take responsibility on ourselves to TAKE BACK OUR ECONOMY ONE BUSINESS AT A TIME. Its time to put our money where our mouths are.

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[-] 1 points by Abridge3141 (117) 2 years ago

DEAR INDIVIDUAL READING THIS, What must we as people do to fight this grave injustice inflicted upon us, by the ones who lust for power? How can we end the reign of the wicked and immoral and mete JUSTICE upon the oppressors as we have suffered from their hands-their blood stained hands... An idea of REVOLUTION-no, the act of revolution enacted by the proletarians! Must we as individuals ,as is always done, remain pawns to these people, these monoliths that we alone as individuals cannot surmounted...I surmise that we are not ignorant to the woes inflicted upon us by their enormities? We must UNIFY! Unity will be the way in which we assert ourselves!...While I realize all are not are not without income or funds and many cannot unify with this growing movement do to reasons of possible opposition and they being the people I'm question who we oppose (Wall Street), and many have responsibility they must tend to that take precedence. We must rise and vanquish this behemothto restore the equilibrium, for when disturbed it causes much chaos and strife in the hearts of man( man being neutral to represent all genders) in his mind and when mans mind and soul are in chaos as many are they rise to vanquish the pestiferous wealthy. However we should not just target these individuals, each of us individually must confront the corruption in our hearts, how can we judge the corrupt and deem them so when we cannot be amenable for ourselves we will surely be deemed hypocrites as we will be.....I am not meaning to say that this protest is in any way unjust, for far too long have we suffered, I mean that we are expected to expiate our sins -assume our parts in the problems we face and how we may have caused it. Yes, the Bankers on Wall Street are corrupt in ways we don't have evidence of without an investigation. But as we suffer soshall they, for we will make it so. But what of our government I say, my fellow citizens do not neglect to Confront the complicit in this affair for the roots of corruption are deeply seated, we have silent enemies amongst us-be warned that although succession in our goals will happen we may face a greater threat to our rights granted unto us from birth be prudent and circumspect. Another issue I wish to address is the idea of mans continual corruption as all things will be permeated with this darkness Inside our hearts.......when a system is created it always deviates from the righteous path, for nations we have learnt of in our education are littered with tales of nations that became corrupt and faded Into the ruin of collapse, we know that a society without corruption is utterly inconceivable, impossible in ways each and everyone of us know...for as long as men exist so shall our inner evil....but I digress from my original Intent of this passage and I ask forgiveness as we must forgive all in all eventual....the rising potentiality of this movement is quite an astonishment, I thought we were not capable of such things and thus I admit I had less faith in my fellow man. I see that we have all come to the realization of the need to bring the greedy to justice, although the reasons for your protesting may be unique to you, you share many goal, I had prognostications, inklings seems more appropriate of a term, that one day man would wake to realize the greater truth outside of his/her reality, and break the cycles of obsession with superficial base needs and trite motives, a dull and predictable lot we were but we've surpassed that I hope....for if not we will founder and fall Into the patterns we had grown so accustomed to, living such prosaic pedestrian lives stultified by the elite and of our own ignorance we always have the means to educate ourselves in this age, we have no limits to what we may learn based on our status in society, the powerful can no longer succeed in keeping us stupefied we have freewill to reason and learn and form our own ideas, ideas that would otherwise have died by the hands of the bigots! Our endeavours shall be crowned with fruition of our goals for our will allows it, we have broken free from the will of the oppressors.... part...now it is your turn...as Desmond Tutu stated "If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor." YOURS TRULY- Aaron Thomas Bridge

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 2 years ago

Many more people will come to your side when you are proactive (for “new” Business & Government solutions), instead of reactive (against “old” Business & Government solutions), which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive “new” strategy that implements all our various socioeconomic demands at the same time, regardless of party, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 10% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves; that is, using a Focused Direct Democracy organized according to our current Occupations & Generations. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategically Weighted Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:

http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategic_legal_policy_organizational_operational_structures_tactical_investment_procedures

Join

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/

because we need 100,000 “support clicks” at AmericansElect.org to support a Presidential Candidate -- such as any given political opportunist you'd like to draft -- in support of the above bank-focused platform.

Most importantly, remember, as cited in the first link, that as Bank Owner-Voters in your 1 of 48 "new" Business Investment Groups (or "new" Congressional Committees) you become the "new" Congress replacing the "old" Congress according to your current Occupation & Generation, called a Focused Direct Democracy.

Therefore, any Candidate (or Leader) therein, regardless of party, is a straw man, a puppet; it's the STRATEGY – the sequence of steps – that the people organize themselves under, in Military Internet Formation of their Individual Purchasing & Group Investment Power, that's important. In this, sequence is key.

Why? Because there are Natural Social Laws – in mathematical sequence – that are just like Natural Physical Laws, such as the Law of Gravity. You must follow those Natural Social Laws or the result will be Injustice, War, etc.

The FIRST step in Natural Social Law is to CONTROL the Banks as Bank Owner-Voters. If you do not, you will inevitably be UNJUSTLY EXPLOITED by the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government who have a Legitimate Profit Motive, just like you, to do so.

Consequently, you have no choice but to become Candidates (or Leaders) yourselves as Bank Owner-Voters according to your current Occupation & Generation.

So please JOIN the 2nd link so we can make our support clicks at AmericansElect.org when called for, at exactly the right time, by an e-mail from that group, in support of the above the bank-focused platform. If so, then you will see and feel how your goals can be accomplished within the above strategy as a “new” Candidate (or Leader) of your current Occupation & Generation.

[-] 1 points by peacescientist (169) 2 years ago

these are the types of ideas that we need. Lets get more pouring in and decide what we want to do and start organizing on a local level.

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 2 years ago

We need to organize at the national level first, which is why I asked that you join the 2nd link because nothing happens without a large number of people on the same web page supported the same, ever-more-refined, idea, right?

[-] 1 points by peacescientist (169) 2 years ago

This is what you do. Get out your phone book and start talking to people in your community. Set up meetings and conferences to explain to people your ideas. Have them explain it to other people. If you want to organize on a national level you are going to have to start somewhere. Be clear about what to happen, and what you expect them to do. You are going to have to personally talk to thousands of people to get this off of the ground. It is not going to come easy, and its not going to happen by clicking links and joining groups. Right now we need concrete solutions.

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 2 years ago

The people -- thousands of them -- are right here, right now, and moments like this when so many people come together all at once in Public Assembly are extremely rare, so now is the time, right now, right here, face-to-face.

OWS needs to be about ACTIONS, not words, like so many other groups in the past.

And you forget one very important thing: Going all over the place to talk to people face to face is EXPENSIVE and TIME-CONSUMING, and nobody wants to pay that except the top 10% to finance corrupt political campaigns. It's so corrupt that the internet is the ONLY way all 100% of the people will EVER have a choice & a voice. So if it doesn't happen here -- RIGHT NOW -- then it won't happen at all, as evidenced by political history, right?

[-] 1 points by peacescientist (169) 2 years ago

I read a post about the skills of the 1% being rare, and the sacrifices they are willing to make being also very rare. If we are going to win, we are going to have to think about this. We will not change things by being lazy and uncreative. We have to hit the pavement. You dont go all over the place to talk to people, you go door to door in your neighborhood first. You need to set up meetings in YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. Posting on a forum is easy, calling everyone in the phonebook untill you have 100 people that are willing to talk to you is not. The top 1% are willing to do what is uncomfortable, are you? We have to prove that we deserve our freedom by taking it. It will not be given out freely and without a fight.

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 2 years ago

The 1% have the money and time to do it that way, I don't.

What we are creating is a Bottom 90% of Workers who ALREADY have the Individual Purchasing and Group Investment Power to CONTROL the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government IF, and only IF, they are LOYAL to themselves as BOTH Customer-Investors and Employee-Investors. In order to become both Customer-Investors and Employee-Investors – at the same time – they become Bank Owner-Voters, and thus make Business Loans to themselves in their 1 of 48 "new" Business Investment Groups by current Occupation and Generation. Business Loans control ALL Businesses. Why? Because Business Loans finance 90% of the Assets of ALL Businesses. Therefore, if the Bottom 90% of Workers CONTROL 90% of the Assets of ALL Business, then they CONTROL the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government, right? What they DON”T control is the Knowledge Power of the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government, which Knowledge Power can NEVER be taken, only GIVEN, if technical (or mathematical) enough. Consequently that technical (or mathematical) Knowledge Power of the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government MUST be paid up to 12 times MORE than Minimum Wage (and sometimes much more for things like Patents) for having made the EFFORT to acquire that Knowledge Power, but this is only true of your 50% Global Investment Groups in Commodities, Technology, Manufacturing, Insurance, Justice, and Banking (which are all very technical, and therefore hard-to-understand, requiring Knowledge Power), but is NOT true of your 50% Local Investment Groups in Wholesale, Vehicles, Services, Education, Retail, & Housing (which are all very basic, therefore easy-to-understand, requiring Knowledge Power that ANYONE can understand).

That's a fair deal. The "12 times more" part is negotiable, but would the 1% ever allow that in the media, no, so it has to be done online, or neighbor-to-worker-to-neighbor (or by word of mouth). I agree it's difficult, but given the resources and the system being totally stacked against the 90%, it's the only way, right?

I want them to JOIN THE GROUP at the link so we can agree Nationally on what the Fundamental Socioeconomic Principles are; that's the National Online Congress, but there are also Town, County, & State Online Congresses too, but the National Online Congress comes first. That's what I want, and you should too IF you want liberty and justice for all.

[-] 1 points by peacescientist (169) 2 years ago

Im still not clear on what you expect people to do besides click the link.