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Posted 2 years ago on Feb. 5, 2012, 5:47 p.m. EST by corralled (23)
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[-] 3 points by learnthis (120) 2 years ago

really? nothing gets accomplished when people don't know what the hell they are trying to accomplish. kalle's pawns sort of like hogan's heros......bumblefuck do you know that word?

[-] -1 points by owsleader2038 (-10) 2 years ago

WOW, your talking like a fucking Republican.

Kalle only orchestrated a 'call to action',

There is NO leader.

DO you really feel that you can't pee without Kalle?

Did he order the misfits to live in their own shit in the park in NYC? NO he didnt',

What Kalle did is use his computer skills to call for 'occupy', but it was "ANONYMOUS", that got the people in the streets, and got the media involved.

Notice that KALLE NEVER posts' on this site, ...

He is very careful if you notice to have a wall between his business and his political hobby's.

He's also smart to be Canadian, for if he had done this as a US citizen on US soil he would already have the IRS living in his Magic-Mormon-Underwear.

Any time there is a party, the city cleans it up, ... new-years or anything, .. we all pay our taxes, and we all are treated the same,

Assholes LIKE you would like NO better to send a bill to organizations that call for 'occupy' to get a BILL to destroy them.

I brought you out, you say you here to 'learn' and you want people to talk, but what you really want is that anybody that does anything to get a bill, and thus you want to instill fear in everybody,

If the government's start sending out bills to people enjoying their 'right to speech' then anybody that attends an 'occupy' will be bankrupted. This is what you want asshole? Cuz this is what your advocating.

Why fuck are you here?

I never see you talk about anything, sure like I said its easy to talk about Kalle-Lasn, there are 1,000's of google references, but so fucking what, it has nothing to do with garbage in NYC.

We're here to talk about ideas, and what is wrong, ... and just maybe how to fix shit.

People like you are only here to instill fear and destroy any attempt to organize a resistance to the police state.

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[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

If YOU are tired of not doing - DO!
JOIN US >

Virtually everything we want hinges on disarming our opponent – GREED
by stopping the flood of bribes into our government.
This is the first REAL step to REAL change .

government OF the people BY the people FOR the people

JOIN US > the OWS Restore Democracy Working Group at
http://www.nycga.net/groups/restore-democracy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NYCRDWG

join us even if you are not in the NY area
check out our comprehensive analysis of
the 17 existing proposed amendments
and our detailed historical timeline of corporate personhood


We can continue,

as a movement of demands
as a movement of declarations
as a movement of marches

OR


Are you ready
.....................FOR ACTION ?
Are you ready
.....................TO DO SOMETHING REAL ?
Are you ready
......................TO JOIN 83% OF YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS ?


We must not
DEMAND that we WANT THEM.to give to US
We must
DEMAND GOALS THAT WE WILL ACHIEVE FOR OURSELVES


Because of the Supreme Court's decision,
we cannot accomplish anything significant, without FIRST -

Overturning Citizens United !!!
Ending Corporate Personhood !!!


83% of Americans already agree on it
as stated in the ABC/Washington Post poll

.........................................

In the the PFAW Poll -

85% of voters say that corporations have too much influence over the political system today.
77% think Congress should support an amendment to limit the amount corporations can spend on elections.
74% say that they would be more likely to vote for a candidate for Congress who pledged to support a Constitutional Amendment limiting corporate spending in elections.


PLEASE COMMENT ON: MY "IDEAL - COMPREHENSIVE" AMENDMENT

Section 1 {A corporation is not a person and can be regulated}
The rights protected by the Constitution of the United States are the rights of natural persons { human beings } only. Artificial entities, such as corporations, limited liability companies, and other entities, established by the laws of any State, the United States, or any foreign state shall have no rights under this Constitution and are subject to regulation by the People, through Federal, State, or local law. The privileges of artificial entities shall be determined by the People, through Federal, State, or local law, and shall not be construed to be inherent or inalienable.

Section 2 { Money is not speech }
Federal, State and local government shall regulate, limit, or prohibit contributions and expenditures, including a candidate’s own contributions and expenditures, and may restrict all financing to “public financing” for the purpose of influencing in any way the election of any candidate for public office or any ballot measure. As above, all foreign contributions are forbidden.

Section 3 { Transparency & Disclosure }
Federal, State and local government shall require that any permissible contributions and expenditures be publicly disclosed less than 60 days after the transaction and before the election.

Section 4 { Voter Suppression }
Federal, State and local government shall not require any new forms of id for voting, beyond what was needed to register for previously registered voters. College photo-id ( including for out-of-state students ) must be acceptable. Federal, State and local government shall permit early voting for at least the 6 days before the election day.

Section 5 { Election Day & Registration }
Federal, State and local government may make election day a holiday. Federal, State and local government must allow simultaneous registration and voting on election day.

Section 6 { Eliminate the Electoral College – one man one vote } The electoral college is abolished and the President and Vice-President will be elected by popular vote. .

Section 7 { Eliminate the Filibuster } Unless specified in the Constitution , all voting in the House and Senate shall be based on a simple majority.

Section 8 Nothing contained in this amendment shall be construed to abridge the freedom of the press .

{NOTE: sections 4, 5, 6, 7 are not required to overturn CU – just my wish list }
COMMENTS ON THE ABOVE ARE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED


IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO ACT ----> JOIN US TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE


Our primary goal should be to pass a constitutional amendment to counter Supreme Court decision Citizens United (2010) , that enables unlimited amounts of anonymous money to flood into our political system.
We don’t have to explain or persuade people to accept our position – we only have to persuade them to ACT based on their own position. Pursuing this goal will prove to the world that we, at OWS, are a serious realistic Movement, with serious realistic goals. Achieving this goal will make virtually every other goal – jobs, taxes, infrastructure, Medicare – much easier to achieve –
by disarming our greatest enemy – GREED.


IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO ACT ----> JOIN US TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE


THE SUCCESS STORY OF THE AMENDING PROCESS The Prohibition movement started as a disjointed effort by conservative teetotalers who thought the consumption of alcohol was immoral. They ransacked saloons and garnered press coverage here and there for a few years. Then they began to gain support from the liberals because many considered alcohol partially responsible for spousal and child abuse, among other social ills. This odd alliance, after many years of failing to influence change consistently across jurisdictions, decided to concentrate on one issue nationally—a constitutional amendment. They pressured all politicians on every level to sign a pledge to support the amendment. Any who did not, they defeated easily at the ballot box since they controlled a huge number of liberal, and conservative and independent swing votes in every election. By being a single-issue constituency attacking from all sides of the political spectrum, they very quickly amassed enough votes (2/3) to pass the amendment in Congress. And, within just 17 months, they were successful in getting ¾ of the state legislatures to ratify the constitutional amendment into law. (Others were ratified even faster: Eight —took less than a year. The 26th, granting 18-year-olds the right to vote, took just three months and eight days.)


If they could tie the left and right into a success - WHY CAN'T WE ??????????


IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO ACT ----> JOIN US TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE


1
83% of Americans ( and 76% of the Rs ) have already opposed CU in
the ABC/Washington post poll and the above
IS THEIR POSITION ALREADY.
2
We don’t have to work to convince people on the validity of our position.
3
This Amendment { sections 1+2 }is REQUIRED to overturn CU.
And all other electoral reform can be passed through the normal legislative process. 4
OWS and the FORUM pages are chock full of ( mostly ) excellent ideas to improve our country.
All of them have strong advocates – and some have strong opposition.
None of them has been “pre-approved” by 83% of Americans !
Pursuing this goal – is exactly what Americans want.
What do we want? Look at that almost endless list of demands – goals - aims.
Tax the rich. End the Fed. Jobs for all, Medicare for all. So easy to state our demands! Can you imagine how hard it would be to formulate a “sales pitch” for any of these to convince your Republican friends to vote for any of them?
83% of Americans have ALREADY “voted” against CU. And 76% of the Rs did too.
All we have to do ask Americans is to pressure their representatives – by letters - emails – petitions.

Wanna take your family on vacation?
Convince the 7 year old and the 10 year old to go to Mt Rushmore.
Then try to convince them to go to Disneyland.
Prioritizing this goal will introduce us to the world – not as a bunch of hippie radical anarchist socialist commie rabblerousers – but as a responsible, mature movement that is fighting for what America wants.


IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO ACT ----> JOIN US TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE


I feel that using the tactics of the NRA, the AARP, the TP, the anti-SOPA – who all represent a minority – who have successfully used their voting power and political pressure to achieve their minority goals - plus the Prohibition Amendment tactics – bringing all sides together - is a straight path for us to success that cannot fail to enable us to create and complete one task that the MAJORITY want.

There are at least seventeen different Constitutional Amendments in the works.
Help us support these moves to get the money out of our political system.


Join the OWS Restore Democracy Working Group at
http://www.nycga.net/groups/restore-democracy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NYCRDWG
Plan details http://bit.ly/vK2pGI

regular meetings Wednesdays 6-8PM @ 60 Wall St – The Attrium


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[-] 2 points by learnthis (120) 2 years ago

I liked the section on transparency. So when is Kalle Lasn going to get transparent and show us his wealth? Or Canadian income tax return would be nice. When are we going to find out how the whole $700,000+ that was raised (according to this website) has been spent. So far we have only been told about $108,000 and that includes the $3000 for HALLOWEEN PUPPETs. that is cute puppets making puppets. only a rich white kid needs 3000 to make halloween puppets. stoners.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

I will be polite and not call you a typical Rs
or an orwellian foxer

the CONSTITUTIONAL amendment ( not yet passed - so has NO effect )
requires no wealth disclosure
it requires POLITICIANS to disclose how they get or spend campaign funds

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6883) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

A forum is about crafting talking points, didn't you know that? Maybe you did, maybe that's what you're afraid of.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

Everything gets accomplished here. It is both the begining and the end.

[-] 1 points by nichole (525) 2 years ago

What do you expect? Lots been messed up since our halcyon days. be patient. It's one of the last virtues I've come to expect from my fellow Americans, AND it is of utmost importance here. Can we exhibit patience?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by freewriterguy (882) 2 years ago

i learned a few things, and shared a few things, it is said that by small and simple means great things are brought to pass.

[-] 0 points by corralled (23) 2 years ago

I'm still paying 4 dollars for a gallon of gas, 4 dollars for a loaf of Iitalian bread and $7.99 for a pound of Boars Head turkey Guys Please hurry up and monetize this revolution okay Jesus

[-] 0 points by corralled (23) 2 years ago

Massive Fifteen year Media Cover Up If our Government and The Media can get away with this they can cover up anything

http://jamesdamiano.yolasite.com/

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[-] 0 points by asauti (-113) from Port Orchard, WA 2 years ago

Just a lot of talk, I would have to agree! :)

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

fyi - there are 12 anti-CU amendments IN congress today

[-] 1 points by Gileos (309) 2 years ago

What in the hell... This person is insane.

[-] -1 points by corralled (23) 2 years ago

We are all at fault Every one of us

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Don't blame me. I've been encouraging folks to stop voting for (R)epelican'ts for decades.

They mumble some BS about their guns and vote for them anyway.

I tried to warn that we were becoming a fascist state before Ron Paul was hanging out with them in public

It's not my fault, some folks just won't listen, so I'm not gonna carry some guilt trip over it.

I'll say it one more time.

Throw the (R)epelican'ts OUT! Teabaggers first.

You don't do it? Stop yer bitchin'.

[-] -1 points by corralled (23) 2 years ago

Believing that there's a difference in parties is like believing Bruce Springsteen and Bob Dylan are democrats. LOL

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 2 years ago

Believing there isn't, is like believing FLAKESnews.

[-] -1 points by corralled (23) 2 years ago

This whole thing is insanity. It's over for this country and all the people in it just like in Europe. The rich have won. Nothing's going to change and everyone here knows it because no one here even knows who the real enemy is. How are you going to occupy anything. The only thing you occupy is this website

[-] 0 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 2 years ago

Well, you have there attention. Now what? You have the standard answers : you are an evil republican- the Internet will change the world- troll- Kalle is GOD etc....... Now what is your point?

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

corralled just likes to be corralled and wallow in defeat, and he hopes we will join him - probably drinks a lot of beer and listens to country music.

[-] -1 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 2 years ago

So country music and beer are just lower class " guns and bibles" ( remember when you god said that?) garbage? A little elitest, don't you think?

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

No, I'm not elitest, but these's no doubt tha we have all become apathetic, or manybe just overwealmed by the world's problems and would rather retreat. That's no reason to make it an ideology.

And your intention to further divide us is noted.

[-] 0 points by BlackSun (275) from Agua León, BC 2 years ago

I would posit that you are the one dividing "us".

[-] -1 points by Odin (583) 2 years ago

What do you want to get accomplished? We have a free exchange of ideas here. Do you all want us to reach a concensus on certain issues? You could get arrested for the cause, start up your own chapter of OWS, and a whole bunch of other things. That would mean leaving the comforts of home though.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

It's not about me.