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Forum Post: Not 'Varied Agendas' as claimed by Media

Posted 9 years ago on Oct. 16, 2011, 11:03 p.m. EST by Someone (23)
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I'd like to break this down as clearly as possible. The media claims Occupy Wall Street has no clear agenda. I disagree, there is one whether people know it or not. All of the world's major problems stem from a single root cause.The complaints on every single picket sign are all symptoms of that ONE cause. Therefore, they all embody the SAME message:

"Occupy" protesters are saying we must change our current economic and social philosophy, which is based on false assumptions, distributes wealth unequally, and provides no safeguards for 99% of the world's population. Here is what that philosophy is called:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism.

If you don't know what that is please read the article. It means 'liberal treatment of corporations' and has been the driving model worldwide for decades. It is so-called 'supply-side' 'trickle-down' economics. It has nothing to do with Democrat or Republican or Communist or Socialist or American or Chinese. It is way beyond that. It is the predicted "military-industrial-complex" ripening on a global scale. It is corrupt politicians and banks and corporations flaunting their disobedience to all common ethics and morals while the rest of the public suffers with an increasingly-militarized world drained of resources. It's a form of economic cancer that is destroying nations and replacing them with corporations. As economic policy, it is a fabrication, a myth, and a lie.

These are complex times but this isn't rocket science. It's harder to explain but easy to feel what's happening. We all feel a sense of betrayal that this savage and selfish misuse of capitalism and politics and militarism has gone unchecked. We can all feel the manipulation, dysfunction and greedy lies behind it. It's pretty much everywhere now, with the sociopathic media driving the team.

But they are busted, we FIGURED OUT what they are doing. This is like a mass citizen's arrest. Corporate Law has allowed these Frankenstien monsters to go unchecked for a long time because the public didn't know where Frankenstein's Castle was hidden. Well, we finally found it and we are going up there with pitchforks and torches and signs that say "STOP BUILDING MONSTERS!"

Therefore, our protest signs point to ALL the monsters of this reckless economic debauchery:

War Pollution Poverty Lost Jobs Social Inequity Media Manipulation Corporate Law Unionbusting

...and so on, since they all stem from the same cause -- a Neoliberalist economic policy that was CREATED BY and GROSSLY FAVORS the wealthiest 1% of the population. That one root problem has allowed all the sociopaths in the world a free ride.

Now, what is so 'disorganized' about this group message? Please spread this around, I'm sick of hearing about 'varying agendas'. They are so wrong. It doesn't all fit on one picket sign but it's all connected.

~Someone~

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[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 9 years ago

Exactly, but let's start the war against Injustice by starting our own banks to double our income, for many more people will come to your side when you are proactive (for “new” Business & Government solutions), instead of reactive (against “old” Business & Government solutions), which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive “new” strategy that implements all our various socioeconomic demands at the same time, regardless of party, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 10% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves, and thus doubling your income from Bank Profits which are 40% of all Corporate Profits; that is, using a Focused Direct Democracy organized according to our current Occupations & Generations. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategically Weighted Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:

http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategic_legal_policy_organizational_operational_structures_tactical_investment_procedures

Join

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/

because we need 100,000 “support clicks” at AmericansElect.org to support a Presidential Candidate -- such as any given political opportunist you'd like to draft -- in support of the above bank-focused platform.

Most importantly, remember, as cited in the first link, that as Bank Owner-Voters in your 1 of 48 "new" Business Investment Groups (or "new" Congressional Committees) you become the "new" Congress replacing the "old" Congress according to your current Occupation & Generation, called a Focused Direct Democracy.

Therefore, any Candidate (or Leader) therein, regardless of party, is a straw man, a puppet, just like today, for it's the STRATEGY – the sequence of steps – that the people organize themselves under, in Military Internet Formation of their Individual Purchasing & Group Investment Power, that's important. In this, sequence is key to doubling your income from Bank Interest Income.

Why? Because there are Natural Social Laws – in mathematical sequence – that are just like Natural Physical Laws, such as the Law of Gravity. You must follow those Natural Social Laws or the result will be Injustice, War, etc.

The FIRST step in Natural Social Law is to CONTROL the Banks as Bank Owner-Voters. If you do not, you will inevitably be UNJUSTLY EXPLOITED by the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government who have a Legitimate Profit Motive, just like you, to do so.

Consequently, you have no choice but to become Candidates (or Leaders) yourselves as Bank Owner-Voters according to your current Occupation & Generation.

So please JOIN the 2nd link so we can make our support clicks at AmericansElect.org when called for, at exactly the right time, by an e-mail from that group, in support of the above the bank-focused platform. If so, then you will see and feel how your goals can be accomplished within the above strategy as a “new” Candidate (or Leader) of your current Occupation & Generation.

[-] 1 points by Someone (23) 9 years ago

very interesting! and I will read the articles and click if I agree. thanks for the solution-oriented approach :)

[-] 1 points by Someone (23) 9 years ago

the post has been removed but i read the original. it's a daunting read but, by gollly, it looks like a fully-operational 'people's bank' or whatever you wana call it. and yeah, everyone would have close to twice as much money. it uses the foibles of the banking industry and current laws to achieve its goals which is remarkable.

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 9 years ago

Exactly, our group's only problem is getting enough people to form the first Home Town Bank of 65,000 (which bank can be national in membership), and thus provide a working example to the rest of the people of exactly why this bank is far superior to today's banks. Consequently, I hope you will join our group at http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems and spread the word, for we really can defeat Wall Street while raising Main Street, but it will take 65,000 people in that first bank to make it a techncial (or mathematical) reality that people can see (instead of just read), agreed?

[-] 1 points by Someone (23) 9 years ago

Have you gotten any support for this from #OWS? Is this on the table anywhere? Is there an active discussion? I joined the yahoo group but didnt find any info there. I like the idea although, frankly, it';s a bit above my head.

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 9 years ago

OWS is a deliberately "leaderless" movement as cited on its home page. Consequently, they are waiting for us to consolidate ourselves into groups, and related chains of command, committees, etc, using related web sites, forums, etc, elsewhere (other than OWS) which have specific and well-planned procedures for achieving their very general objective of OWS which is fighting "corporate greed". In this, OWS is a protest, not an organized resistance -- yet. In fact, from what I've read in the papers, their Board, with members mostly unknown, wants to remain very "vague" about objectives other than a reinstating few old laws (Glass-Steigal, etc) that didn't work in the past, and which therefore won't work in the future either. I think their real purpose is to change the national discussion from the "power" of Government (via the Tea Party) to the "greed" of Business (via OWS), and on that score, OWS has achieved their objective quite well. The discussion has changed nationally, but now its time to get practical, organized, and specific about how to fight corporate greed by creating our own banks, and related businesses, and thus doubling our wealth and income just like the 1%, and in doing so, bring down the 1% to our level of practicality. I've preparing my plan to do that for 27 years and I view the OWS movement as a means of organizing people behind specific socioeconomic actions that work, such as becoming Bank & Business Owner-Voters. Furthermore, what I showed you is only 1 of 48 Tactical Investment Procedures, so that's only the tip of the iceberg.

And none of those 48 Tactical Investment Procedures are above your head, it's just new to you, so you need time to re-read the plan (I suggest once a day) until it's very clear to you (and I think in the most important ways it is already clear to you or you wouldn't have joined our group).

Furthermore, we need to be gentle about "promotion and publicity" so I suggest that as your first step that you hit the "like" button at http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategically_weighted_policies_organizational_operating_structures_tactical_investment_procedures-448eo so that your facebook friends can take a look at the plan too, and then direct their questions there, which I fully prepared to answer technically and mathematically. You'll have more questions too as your re-read the plan.

Consequently, if the plan goes viral on the net via facebook, etc, we'll have the 65,000 Members we need across all 48 Occupations & Generations quite quickly, agreed?

[-] 1 points by Someone (23) 9 years ago

I agree. But it doesn't sound as easy as just getting members. Isn't it true that we will need professionals in banking, law, and infrastructure and much more? That said, what you propose isn't radical logistically in this era, If the mechanics of this are available to us, and there is consensus that it's a good group plan, then promotion and publicity are the next step. Is there a forum on this subject elsewhere? I'd like to participate.

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 9 years ago

Isn't it true that we will need professionals in banking, law, and infrastructure and much more?

As cited in Step 3 of the plan http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategically_weighted_policies_organizational_operating_structures_tactical_investment_procedures-448eo , each “new” Home Town Bank of 65,000 Members, using free group web sites with voting capabilities like ours at http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/ will elect 12 Inside Bank Directors (with mandatory federal approval of their banking experience) who ADVISE the people, somewhat similar to today's politicians (but in reverse decision-making order), on the 12 Socioeconomic Sectors of your Bank, and related Town, as follows: (1) Wholesale, (2) Vehicles, (3) Services, (4) Education, (5) Retail, (6) Housing, (7) Commodities, (8) Technology, (9) Manufacturing, (10) Insurance, (11) Justice, and (12) Banking. These are federally-approved experts in making Business Loans understanding Business Law in each of these 12 Socioeconomic Sectors; they have to be by law, and with $32M in Iniitial Capitalization from 65,000 Members at $500 apiece, we can easily afford such experts, but the main problem still gathering 65,000 Members who agree to hire (or elect) such experts and execute the plan, and related 48 Tactical Investment Procedures. Buying these federally approved experts isn't the problem, but getting 65,000 Members can only happen by word-of-mouth, I think, and that is the main problem.

So exactly, "promotion and publicity" are the next step but I strongly doubt that the Top 1% Management Systems of Business & Government would allow us to use their media to promote and advertise a Banking Plan that would wipe them out financially and politically so our "promotion and publicity" will most likely need to be done by word-of-mouth, social media, etc.

Is there a forum on this subject elsewhere? I'd like to participate.

The only forum I know of, and I've looked for them over the past 27 years of doing this Business Analysis as a Marine, Certified Public Accountant, Computer Programmer, and Socioeconomic Analyst, is ours at http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/ Consequently, we must spread the word ourselves because once we get enough people talking it will go viral on the net, in social media, etc, and then we'll quickly get the 65,000 we need, agreed?

Have you joined our group?

[-] 1 points by Someone (23) 9 years ago

yes i joined the yahoo group but you only have a few members. is this a business proposal on your part? i don;t mind if it is, i like the math. but i am wondering exactly who and what is onboard with you so far. i'd sign on from what i have seen if it looked solid.

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 9 years ago

yes i joined the yahoo group but you only have a few members.

Yes, we only have a few members, but if you hit the facebook "like" button at http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategically_weighted_policies_organizational_operating_structures_tactical_investment_procedures-448eo so your friends can consider our group's plan as well, then we start going viral on the net, and quickly get the 65,000 Members needed to start our first bank, agreed? It's happened before, so it can happen again; it just hasn't happened yet under this plan.

is this a business proposal on your part?

This is a proposal I have constructed over the past 27 years; however, I stand on the shoulders of giants. In fact, the initial inspiration for the "math you like" came to me after many years of close and continuous reading of the Gospels wherein if you look closely at what Lord Christ said in his parables (or riddles) you will see an underlying socioeconomic mathematics in how he suggested we organize against Injustice, War, etc. Likewise, there are many other authors over the years from whom I have gathered knowledge for implementation in our group's plan -- far too many to list -- such as Stephen Convey who wrote -- The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People -- and Robert V. Levine who wrote -- The Power of Persuasion: How We're Bought and Sold. It's a very long list of authors, and the group itself has already made significant additions merely by asking questions seeking clarification, the most important part of any coordinated action; that is, keeping ourselves informed of our perspectives because our collective knowledge is 10 times greater than our individual knowledge, agreed?

but i am wondering exactly who and what is onboard with you so far.

For one, the Feds love the idea (unofficially) because it breaks up the mega-banks, who are 50% of market and who were the cause of the latest financial disaster into much smaller Home Town Banks of 65,000, which community banks were unaffected by the current crisis because they don't take mindless unsupervised risks the way the big banks do because these smaller banks know they're not going to get automatically bailed out by the government the way the big banks always do. Consequently, our Members begin their education as Outside Bank Directors by a course supplied by the Federal Reserve Bank at: http://www.bankdirectorsdesktop.org/

So, spread the word with that facebook "like" button and we'll get going viral on the net in short order, agreed?

[-] 1 points by Someone (23) 9 years ago

I am not sure how you 'translated' economic principles from the New Testament but that's cool :) Could you verify how the Fed has shown their interest in this? Have you shown this to them? Have you shown it to others and is it getting traction? The reason I am quizzing you is to see how far along it is. I like the idea of small hometown banks. I think 65K is a reachable goal. I'll read the link, thanks for the detailed info.

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 9 years ago

I am not sure how you 'translated' economic principles from the New Testament but that's cool :)

I wrote a book (many years ago) on how our group's plan relates directly to the parables (or riddles) of Lord Christ. However, I was extremely verbose at the time, so if you thought the 1-page Summary was a hard read, then you'd REALLY think that was a much harder read. Furthermore, over the many years since then, our plan has been so significantly expanded that my initial book would need to be much further clarified and amended to make a full comparison to every one of his parables (or riddles). However, if you send me your e-mail address, I'll send you a pdf of that book. My e-mail eric.atkinson@StrategicInternationalSystems.com. And please keep in mind that I was a very young and idealist man when I wrote that book so many years ago, so don't think for a minute that my thinking hasn't significantly changed since then.

Could you verify how the Fed has shown their interest in this?

As I said, the Fed's approval is unofficial as they must be institutionally neutral, and thus will never give public approval of any "new" Policy, Organization, & Procedure except it relates their own agency. However, put yourself in the shoes of any Neutralist Federal Administrator looking at our group's plan, wouldn't you love to break-up the mega-banks, and related mega-businesses, that constantly make you, as a regulator, look bad (so often) in the eyes of the public as result of these constant financial crises' and business scandals? So yes, they'd love to support a plan which breaks all mega-banks and mega-businesses and have written many ineffective anti-trust laws themselves over the years to do so. This plan isn't a law, and will therefore be an order of magnitude effective on their and our behalf.

Have you shown this to them?

No, I haven't, but I doubt they'd respond even if I did e-mail it to them other than to say that they, as Neutralist Federal Administrators, cannot confirm or deny a "new" Policy, Organization, or Procedure outside those of their own agency. I'll e-mail it to them if you want me too, or better yet, you can e-mail it to them on behalf of our group, but I'd be very surprised if you got a response of any critical nature from them, but let me know if you do, for any critically though-out response will only make our plan stronger in reply. Besides, it would better if you asked them, that way the rest of the group (and others hereafter) would believe the response.

Have you shown it to others and is it getting traction?

Well, we've got 10 "new" people so far this week out of the 200 or so people I've posted it too at OWS this week, A 5% acceptance rate is pretty good but I'm only 1 person, so if I have to promote it alone then we may never get to 65,000; we need some viral internet notice. For this reason, I am preparing videos and various documents for submission to AmericansElect.org, a site containing millions of members who will be taking part in a 3rd-party presidential nomination process. I encourage you to join AmericansElect.org as we would need 100,000 support clicks there just to get our bank-focused platform on the ballot (and you can support other platforms at the same time as well, but only vote for one). Consequently, if the million members at AmericanElect.org actually look at our platform, then we'll get 65,000, but there will be thousands of proposals, which is why need to gather as many people as possible into our group web site, now, so that, at exactly the right time, we can register, hopefully, a 1000 or so support clicks, and quickly rise to the top of the list, and thus get noticed right off the bat by a million members. Even if we don't get a 1000 members by that time, we can certainly get a 1000 members by the next election after that, and maybe even the whole 65,000, which would definitely shoot to the top of the list if 65,000 support clicks came in the same day that support clicks were allowed to be posted by members, right?

I think 65K is a reachable goal.

I do too, but it will take significant word of mouth to get them into our group web site because I don't think the 1%-owned media or government will say a word about, for it would completely undermine their power in transitioning socioeconomic power from Wall Street (and Government) to Main Street as an Online Direct Democracy of Business & Government, so we have a hard promotion job ahead of us. But speaking for myself, I will never give up on that promotion until the day I die because the math is very sound.

[-] 1 points by Someone (23) 9 years ago

You don't have to send all that stuff but I am interested and will continue to follow this as it develops. do you have a facebook page for this?