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Forum Post: Noam Chomsky's Thoughts on The Occupy Movement

Posted 2 years ago on March 15, 2012, 12:02 p.m. EST by struggleforfreedom80 (6188)
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[-] 1 points by RedSkyMorning (220) 2 years ago

Off topic, but does Chomsky do linguistics anymore?

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Not sure if he still has projects in that field going.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Chomsky has been telling truth for a very long time.

The more that hear his words the better off we all are.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Agree! :)

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Oh and thanks for posting this.

[-] 2 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

No problem. The entire interview was really good. (Thanks again to DKAtoday for providing the link)

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Yeah he has a lot of great stuff :).

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

I've posted a collection of videos in which NC also touches upon many of the things discussed in the Maheshvarananda interview. Watch'em here if you're interested: http://struggleforfreedom.blogg.no/1317735903_chomsky_explains_libe.html

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

This is a really nioce colection, maybe you should post a Chomsky collection.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

I have posted many collections here. Maybe there'll be more in the future.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I should have looked, sorry, I'm sort of new to the site, never saw any reason to spend much time on any forums before, either I didn't know much about the topic or didn't think it was worthwhile.

I think this is different here, maybe not yet but someday, I think this may be worthwhile

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

That's ok. I agree, ows.org is a really good site.

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[-] 0 points by Dumpthechump (96) 2 years ago

This Chomsky stuff is pathetic. He knows that business creates and upholds the "basic social order" but so does he with his attack on BDS.

Furthermore, his explicit support for Small Social Systems is just that - a mere conscience-salve for timid people who can only think locally, and worse still, think all our problems can be solved locally.

They cannot - i.e. Chomsky and his horde of Chumps are part of the problem, NOT part of the solution!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Honest discussion is always part of the solution, as opposed to what you're doing here.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

He's a troll uncapable of coming up with valid, reasonable arguments in the political discussion, so instead he resorts to namecalling and pointless statements. Just ignore him.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Good morning, I was just giving you a boost, his crap is quite dense though, sounding all knowable and like, you should be faltered that you've scared him so :).

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[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Very nice introduction to Noam and his thoughts view perspective on society today.


This is a short snippet from an extended conversation with Noam Chomsky, available here - http://studiooccupy.org/#!/media/10319

The full interview is about: -The Occupy Movement -Economic democracy and cooperatives -Limiting the accumulation of wealth -Consciousness raising -Latin America

Information about the interviewer: Dada Maheshvarananda is an activist, writer and monk of Ananda Marga Yoga Society. He is the director of the Prout Research Institute of Venezuela and author of the forthcoming book, After Capitalism: Economic Democracy and the Progressive Utilization Theory (Prout). For more info, visit: www.priven.org

[-] 2 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Thanks for the link! Just watched it. This interview is one of the best ones I've seen in a long time. Every "occupier" should see this one.

Another important interview is at "Motmakt" ("Counterpower"), the libertarian socialist organization in my country Norway, last year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVNq8knHGew

Also, in this collection NC also touches upon many of the things discussed in the Maheshvarananda interview : http://struggleforfreedom.blogg.no/1317735903_chomsky_explains_libe.html

yours s. sff

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

We move forward promoting awareness and in helping to educate and open eyes.

We push for the understanding of what is happening how it is happening who is responsible and whether it is good or bad.

This is learning to examine reality.

We go forward - Together.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Thank you for the longer piece DKA, Chomsky reminds me of Joseph Campbell, he speaks from a place of logic and reason, not as a fan of one form of government or another, good systems can withstand such examination. Joseph Campbell would bring the same to spiritual thought, the key being not to worship who was right but to attempt to understand their teachings.

[-] 1 points by flip (4964) 2 years ago

check out what joe said about the 60's and the dirty kids leading the protests - also what he said about the monks that set themselves on fire in vietnam - very disturbing! on the whole i really like campbell but he has some serious blind spots

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Morning filp, nobody's perfect, if your looking for that your going to have trouble. But if you would like to send some links I'll take a look, didn't know I would find Campbell haters on here.

[-] 1 points by flip (4964) 2 years ago

not at all a joe hater - i really liked his series on pbs and have lots of his talks on tape - but! he really hated the 60's protesters and thought they were dirty and disrespectful - he alos made a comment about the monk who burned himself in vietnam - saying he was protesting something but not sure what - anyway i just thought you might be interested - alan watts is one of my favorites also but he was a drunk and really messed up personally - go figure?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Was that said at the time? I mean even I've changed a little in 50 years, but you should hear me and my son go at it about Jefferson and slaves, I do understand people are not perfect, goodness knows I'm not.

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

This is the Key.

This is our Heart.

What is good clean and healthy for ALL.

Everyone everywhere look to the good of ALL.

This "IS" how we go forward into a Beautiful society/world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUKB3PxG-0E

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

My dad was a carpenter, he was always so satisfied being able to build something.

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

It is good to love what you do.

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[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

A commonsense conversation.

http://studiooccupy.org/#!/media/10319

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Hi again. Yes, I've seen this video. Really good. You sent this link a little earlier (look above here) so it's probably just a slip up, but that's ok. Thanks again for the link.

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

No. Not an accident and not intended for you. But intended to keep Your post and link in view as this is good material for awareness. Out Reach.

[-] 2 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Oh, I see. Fine by me. What you should do is just make a forum-post where you link to the entire interview :) yours s

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

The complete interview was attached to your original link. Your find. Your post. If that is OK.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

No problem, my friend :)