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Forum Post: No unified message No story No success

Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 30, 2011, 4:45 p.m. EST by storiesarehowechangetheworld (0)
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It seems the all the occupy wall street movement have no unified message story they are trying to tell the world. Their is no single leadership to lead the people to create change. Even the about on this site just says that occupy wall street is about an economical demographic. The movement needs a figure head or at least a unified story or message to tell the world else it will not achieve anything. The arab springs all had a clear message we want new leadership and a new government. The occupy wall street message right now is we are protesting because we are unhappy but we dont know what we want. Start creating leadership start bringing a unified message/story that is how change is made. Even the media has no idea what to say the movement wants to the point where they dont even know how to cover it so they dont or if they do it will just be about the police going at the movement groups. The site says " is fighting back against the corrosive power of major banks and multinational corporations over the democratic process, and the role of Wall Street in creating an economic collapse that has caused the greatest recession in generations" but it still doesnt say the goal.

Examples: We want the banks to be restricted on the risks they take for making us bail them out. We want banks to pay back all the money we lent them. We want the people responsible to go to jail.



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[-] 1 points by AlternativeSynergy (224) 12 years ago

2 Steps to Save Our Economy

  1. Constitutional Amendment for Campaign Reform

  2. Banking Reform:

100% Reserve lending only (no more bailouts, no need for the fed, no manipulation of interest rates). Government issued bank account for every citizen with an amount deposited yearly reflecting a per capita percentage of the desired yearly growth of the overall money supply (probably will be a few thousand a year for every citizen over 18). The reason you need to do this is because with 100% reserves banking, you need to replace the old mechanism of using fractional-reserve lending for the overall money supply to grow.

The account will be split in two, one part for spending and the other part for saving. Deposits to the spending side would increase when unemployment is high, decrease when there is too much inflation. Money placed in the spending part of the account cannot be used for saving; we need to do this because of the paradox of thrift. The yearly total amount credited to both the spending and saving sections together will always equal the per capita percentage of desired growth of the overall money supply. If the government runs a deficit and needs to borrow, the first place they would borrow would be from our savings in the government bank accounts, with the appropriate interest paid to us.

[-] 1 points by ARod1993 (2420) 12 years ago

Just an idea: whether you want to stop there (like I'm pretty sure most of us would) or move on to something more radical (which a few always will), wouldn’t a responsible, functioning form of regulated capitalism that doesn’t leave 99% of its citizens out in the cold be a good place to start? I mean, it would be a great deal better than what we have right now, and it would also be a great way to reintroduce people to the idea that businesses need policing no differently than people do and that the government isn’t necessarily out to crush innovation or ruin the markets. If it solves the current problems in this country, then OWS has done its job. If not, then we just keep going; it’s still a necessary step on the road to a market-independent economy similar to what many of you are proposing. Either way, we’d get an answer on the regulated capitalism vs. market-free economy question one way or the other. As far as the actual meat of my proposal goes, I’d base it around the New Deal. I’ve articulated different pieces of it in multiple places both on the OWS forums and on theMultitude, but I haven’t consolidated all of it yet, so there are going to be a bunch of links (sorry in advance):

Overall proposal: http://www.themultitude.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=184&sid=35bc794803a2aef1882ddc97b766550e

Rationale behind Section III: http://www.themultitude.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=23&p=119#p119

Rationale behind and additional details of Section VI: http://occupywallst.org/forum/revive-the-ccc-and-the-wpa/

Draft of Ideas for Sections VII and VIII (still unfortunately in the rough phases of being drafted): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gytiI1qwPDpnLQ8cRmNXoJFmiy4ob3n6yjqfBHpBH8M/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1


[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

True. But try to remember that these are mostly very young people, who to a certain extent, are afraid of putting themselves out there- its new to them.