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[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 12 years ago

I think you mean to say "overthrow", and not "over through." I understand what you're trying to say though.

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[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

I believe the appropriate description of the relationship is that corps OWN the govt. It is no longer the peoples govt.

So we must take our govt back from corps.

1st step: Money out of politics.

https://movetoamend.org/

Then we take it from there.

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[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

You question whether corps own our govt, while referencing the acts they use to purchase them.

Seems kinda silly to answer but if you insist.

Corps continuously must buy the peoples representatives in order to keep our representatives in ownership.

Does that it explain it for you?

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[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

corp ownership of the peoples govt must end for any progressive change to occur.

https://movetoamend.org/

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[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

I will believe corps are people when Texas executes one.

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[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

Why would you hope that?

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[-] -1 points by Shule (2638) 12 years ago

Now that the Democrats won the election, they have no need for OWS anymore. They'll pull the funding plug, and OWS will wither just like the anti-war movement four years ago.

I hope I'm wrong.

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[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 12 years ago

Democrats aren't funding OWS. They were trying to co-opt it and curve talking points and use OWS for votes. I've seen the Documents. Richardkengates shared them a while back. Similar to how the Kochs took over the tea party, except the Kochs 100% succeeded, now they fund it, and the prejudice signed on. They turned it into an anti-gay mudslinging match, they don't even talk about the banks anymore.

But that's what political parties do. They do it to everyone, hence the ads all over tv where money interferes with democracy.

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[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

Kochs & repub extremists/libertarians FORMED the astro turf tea party.

Dems have never attempted to co opt OWS.

For what?

Let's see the alleged documents, cause Richardkent seems like an extremist tin hat wearing conspiracy theorist who is prepping for economic doomsday.

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[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 12 years ago

here's one he linked me a while back.

http://richardkentgates.com/docs/CLGF-msnbc.pdf

Is it really that hard to believe that a political party would create a strategy to try and get voters? What do you think campaigns are?

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[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

This document is a right wing political analysis (and cost estimate) for trying to connect dems to OWS.

Are you fuckin joking. This group CLG&C is a right wing lobbying firm with connections to Boehner & Roy Blunt!

Do you know those 2.

This is the document you offeras proof that the dems tried to coopt OWS?

Where does it prove that?, you right wing lying piece of shit!

Whatta fuckin pathetic joke!

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5408) 1 hour ago

here's one he linked me a while back.

http://richardkentgates.com/docs/CLGF-msnbc.pdf

Is it really that hard to believe that a political party would create a strategy to try and get voters? What do you think campaigns are?

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[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 12 years ago

VQ you are a chode!

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[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

Yeah riiiiiiight! Forgive me if I don't believe you. I'm from Brooklyn NY and we don't get conned that easily.

Good luck in all your good efforts.

There is much that can be done without embracing the agenda of right wingers.

I submit that the right wing are the enemy of the 99%

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[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 12 years ago

The Kochs co-opted it and turned it into a bigot train of pro-capitalist proportions. They used marketing to grow it's numbers and they used wedge and bigot issues to gain extremists. They turned it into what it is today. Another limb of the republican party. Like I said, since the Kochs came in, they don't talk about the banks anymore.

Your insults of Richard are outrageous. The banks can cause a collapse just like they did before. What reform has there been to stop them? All I see is them getting bailouts every month.

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[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

Are you familiar with the reform that repubs watered down and have delayed finalizing 70% of it in committee?

Much too weak but they require that all banks have more equity on hand. Do you understand that concept. We must fight repubs obstruction and agitate all pols for stronger fin regs.

You mentioned all the money we've "given" banks. Is that not evidence that we will not allow a crash We didn't before. And we won't now.

Why?. Because the banksters ARE TPTB!!!!!! They control the govt!!!!!!

NO! there is no great economic doomsday coming that we must prep for.

You referenced that wacko. I should pretend he ain't.?

You addressed all my points but one. Conveniently!!

The documents. Let's see the documents that the Dems tried to Co opt this great progressive movement.

You forgot to respond to that because you ain't got any documents. and the reason you ain't got any is cause they DO NOT exist.

LMFAO.

Please.

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[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 12 years ago

We had a crash before. How many people lost their jobs?

How weak is the dollar now? How much has inflation gone up against stagnant wages?

isn't this why we're protesting? Wall Street has control of the economy and the government?

A continued Wall Street rule is the doomsday. A complete corporate takeover. You said it. The government just keeps giving them money.

I did respond. It took me a minute to find it. Again you need to calm down and stop with the accusations.

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[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

I'm fighting for progressive solutions than create economic equity that benefits the 99%.

I have serious problems with the scam/scheme of the Fed & banksters. This has gone on for 100 years. It is the main element of the immensely powerful PTB.

I want changes there that would finally break the grip of the banksters on the 99%.

However when that right wing wacko Richardkent pushes something I have to pause and hold my actions.

And you offered up the right wing document he pushed long ago!!!

Maybe you don't care that it is right wing. Maybe you didn't know? nah! You ain't THAT stupid are you?

Or maybe you knew and support it.

My energize are outside the arena of the Fed. I want to create better paying jobs, living wage w/ cola, tax increases on the wealthy, punish outsourcing.

I won't join with right wingers even if it seems we agree on the fed.

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[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

Have no fear

Democrats have nothing to do with OWS or it's funding so you are absolutely wrong and do not have to worry.

The election is 2 months gone and our best work (occupy Sandy, abolishing med debt) has occurred since.

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