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Forum Post: New Government in Exile - by Russ Feingold, Occupy USA President

Posted 2 years ago on Dec. 11, 2011, 5:01 p.m. EST by RussellFeingold (55)
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On December 6, 2011, a day that will live in infamy, the treasonous jackals of the United States Senate declared war on the American people by approving S1867, the Defense Authorization Act, which authorizes the military to indefinitely suspend the Habeas Corpus rights of Americans, and essentially repeals the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. On this date, the United States of America ceased to exist.

Last week we convened an emergency teleconference with Occupy Site Mayors representing 57 occupied cities in the USA. Our decision follows.

Barack Obama cannot be trusted to veto S1867. He has been corrupted by the Supreme Court’s Citizen’s United Decision. We must begin what Al Gore should have started when GW Bush stole the 2000 election in Florida. We must begin what John Kerry should have started when GW Bush stole the 2004 election in Ohio. We must start a new Government in Exile.

We cannot protest for power. We cannot petition for power. We cannot beg for power. Power belongs to those who can take it. For every member of the Senate, we will appoint our own interim senators. For every member of the House of Representatives, we will appoint our own interim representatives. For every member of the Supreme Court, we will appoint our own interim judges. After we get organized, we will invite all Americans to vote in a general election for each position, including my Presidential seat, through an Internet website.

We understand that people living in the South, Central States, and West Coast don’t trust East Coasters. So we will locate our capital in Lebanon, Kansas, the geographic center of the contiguous 48 states. Then we will start legislating. Democracy works from the bottom up. If our recommendations are good for the people, they will follow us. Washington DC will become superfluous. We will cut Washington DC off from the bow of our ship, like a snagged anchor, and let it sink to the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.

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[-] 2 points by simplesimon (121) 2 years ago

We understand that people living in the South, Central States, and West Coast don’t trust East Coasters.....

LMAO. Hip hop wars! LMAO!

[-] 2 points by Windsofchange (1044) 2 years ago

This bill is about detaining those "suspected" of Terrorism, but if you look at FEMA and The Modern Militia Movement profile of a suspected terrorist that could be a vast number of Americans. Here is a partial list of the profile of a suspected terrorist. Those who:

1) pay with cash 2) are missing a hand or fingers 3) have strange odors” 4) make “extreme religious statements” 5) have a radical theology” 6) purchases weatherproofed ammunition or match containers 7) purchases meals ready to eat 8) Has more than seven days worth of food in your home. 9) purchases night vision devices, night flashlights or gas masks

1) Those who are anti-abortion activists 2) Those that are against illegal immigration 3) Those that consider “the New World Order” to be a threat 4) Those that have a negative view of the United Nations

Also, the wording of the bill (check out where it says covered persons) leaves the door open for Americans to be arrested here and abroad.

We need to get all the bums out of congress than have voted in by the American people laws that ban corporate lobbyists in D.C., call for campaign finance and term limit reform, and put an end to pork-filled bills. Just that alone would help to make sure that our new congressmen and women will truly represent us and not be bought out like their predecessors.

[-] 0 points by RussellFeingold (55) 2 years ago

Thank you Windsofchange.

One must never forget that in the USA, the military reports to the civilian Congress and President. Who are these politicians? What was their job before they entered politics? Why they are 95% Lawyers. Many studies show that Americans hate Lawyers, and mistrust Lawyers, more than used car salesmen. (My apologies to car salesmen. I personally don't hate you.) In fact, Lawyers are the most hated people in the USA.

Why then, would Americans trust ambulance chasing Lawyers to decide who is a suspected terrorist? Would you trust a used car salesmen to decide whether you get kidnapped in the middle of the night and deported to a secret prison in Romania?

[-] 1 points by Windsofchange (1044) 2 years ago

First I like to correct a mistake I made yesterday (sorry I was a bit tired when I wrote my response to your thread). I said FEMA's profile of a suspected terrorist when I really meant DHS (Domestic Homeland Security). Sorry about that.

I really do agree with you with the point you made about how our Congress is mainly comprised of lawyers (also like to add to that that there are plenty of millionaires in Congress as well--the 1%). Yes, lawyers are not the most well-liked people out there. Why can't we have more everyday people representing us and not sly foxes in suits and people who are of the 1% and are out of touch with (or simply don't care) about the 99%.

I really am so frustrated not just with our Government and greedy Wall Street, but my fellow Americans who allow themselves to remain willfully ignorant about what is going on. When are they going to wake up? There just doesn't seem to enough outrage over this bill and the other bills floating around Congress that are fascist in nature. I am completely bewildered by the disconnect of many Americans. Do they realize what this bill could lead to? Do they realize that America will never be the same because of it? When will they get it? When will it sink in what this is about? I have gotten some casual replies on other forums where people took this bill way too lightly. This can't be taken lightly. I will end my rant here, but honestly there needs to be a great awakening in this country--people need to get shakened up and then get out there and protest like the never protested before--reclaiming these rights that are being stolen away from us. It is now or never.

[-] 1 points by Just1MoreVoice (76) 2 years ago

This seems a bit premature to me, not to mention treasonous. At least wait for it to be passed before starting your lemming-like stampede into prison. Keep in mind that if it does pass, your new government will certainly get you into trouble.

Keep this in mind also: The US Government was designed with specific safeguards to allow it to be taken back should things ever get so corrupt that we end up in this kind of situation. Just remember, it's OUR government, it belongs to us. Why throw away such a valuable resource when we are capable of re-taking it?

[-] 1 points by RussellFeingold (55) 2 years ago

We do not trust the government or military with that kind of power. Your chances of getting killed in a terrorist attack are less than your chances of getting killed by an elephant.

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 2 years ago

That's why I stopped going to the circus.

One never knows if those elephants were trained by jihadist.

[-] -1 points by RussellFeingold (55) 2 years ago

So why is Congress wasting our money chasing imaginary terrorists when they should be protecting us from murdering Elephants ?

[-] 0 points by Tinhorn (285) 2 years ago

Here is the link from the library of congress:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c112:2:./temp/~c112P5O4L1:e548990:

Or you can go to the U.S. Senate website, go to legislation on the top of the page, put S. 1867 in the search and it will bring you there.

[-] 0 points by Tinhorn (285) 2 years ago

I posted two posts on this web site yesterday that I cut and pasted out of the passed Senate bill and it says the complete opposite of what you are posting. Here is the link to the bill where it specifically says that the detainee laws as they pretain to detainees does NOT extend to United States Citizens. READ THE BILL AND STOP SPREADING THE FEAR MONGERING! Chapter 669, Subtitle D, Section 1032 states the following (Keep in mind this is the passed bill):
(b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens- (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States. (2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.

[-] 0 points by GypsyKing (8719) 2 years ago

Is this the actual Russ Feingold?

[-] 0 points by thomasthetank (41) 2 years ago

You really do seem to fear this Feingold idea. You will assimilate with the pufff-borg.....eventually.

[-] 0 points by betuadollar (-313) 2 years ago

S1867 is available here:

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/thomas.php

And only the insane would deny the military the right to detain terrorists as defined under Article X, Subtitle D.

[-] -1 points by RussellFeingold (55) 2 years ago

The military already had this power prior to S1867. Their power does not require amplification. Who are the military anyway? Are they geniuses? Perhaps they are psychic? What special intellectual power do they posses that we lack?

[-] 1 points by betuadollar (-313) 2 years ago

This does not in any way amplify that power; it merely maintains the status quo.

What special power do they possess that we lack? They possess the power to not only access but also entirely eliminate those who physically or economically threaten us. And in the future that science will be so precise that the Pres won't even have to leave his living room. He'll just hit an alternate button on his remote, once for authorization, twice to engage, and entire populations will merely vaporize leaving all of their resources fully intact. And then he'll hit that button a third time to transfer those resources. Digital science has created an ability to not only be most precise but also totally insulate us from all fear and all ugliness.

The laws are but a means of clarification in an effort to aid efficiency.

But if you think you're going to somehow curtail the intent of mass mind, as the extension of our safe boundaries, well, good luck with that. We've been working on it for like ten thousand years now, despite any and all objection.

[-] 0 points by RussellFeingold (55) 2 years ago

I'm not going to waste my time trying to reason with a 7 year old. You sound like a little boy lost in an adult world.

[-] -1 points by betuadollar (-313) 2 years ago

And you sound like a hateful individual rather intent on maliciously inciting... who cannot read. These are not qualities I admire.

[-] 0 points by RussellFeingold (55) 2 years ago

Anyone who reads your post can see that you are a child who watched too many Star Trek and Star Wars reruns. Remember, the person to whom you would grant these magic powers was a fluff head university professor and blood sucking lawyer, prior to entering politics. He's not YODA.

[-] 0 points by betuadollar (-313) 2 years ago

And anyone who reads your post would conclude you have then mentality of a spoiled child. Because when it all plays out and you've exhausted all reasonable argument you discard all personal dignity and respect.

[-] -1 points by Tinhorn (285) 2 years ago

When are you actually going to read the bill? This has been the scare tactic rally call for two months and the bill says nothing of the sort.