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Forum Post: NBA lockout

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 28, 2011, 10:05 p.m. EST by Onthefence (4)
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So, why aren't there any "occupiers" squatting at the homes of NBA players and owners? Does anyone have any idea at all how big of an impact the current lockout has on the economy? All of the support personnel (vendors, security, maintenance, etc.) are taking a beating or are rendered unemployed. Seems that this is a situation where some protesters might be able to actually force a breakthrough. Unless of course the whole protest is a sham. Help the people, people.

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[-] 1 points by StevenRoyal (490) from Dania Beach, FL 13 years ago

Go Sixers!

[-] 1 points by thoreau42 (595) 13 years ago

Go Sounders!

[-] 1 points by harry2 (113) 13 years ago

I don't miss the NBA anymore.

[-] 1 points by Onthefence (4) 13 years ago

I'm with you there. I really don't miss it either. I guess I just feel for those who were employed by the venues and for the vendors who had grown dependent on the season.

Btw - be careful what you say on this forum. There's this guy who keeps responding to this post who writes like what I equate to Shakespeare's diarrhea. Gawd-something I think? His writing is gawd-awful.

[-] 1 points by harry2 (113) 13 years ago

I feel for the small business people that rely on the business. But I am sure there are other options like art festivals, and replacement events - the arenas will fill up with other entertainments.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 13 years ago

right, i will add that to my list of priorities somewhere below the very bottom.

[-] 1 points by Onthefence (4) 13 years ago

So then what is your top priority? I would think those most affected by the lockout are a prime example of the 1%. I'm not suggesting this for the fans. Screw them...I don't even like basketball. But we're talking about a lot of people out of work because of he greed demonstrated by players and owners. So, what is your top priority?

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 13 years ago

in sports? to end the pathetic bread and circuses and go back to people playing basketball instead of watching it.

on that front, this is apparently headed in the right direction, so. i'm all for it.

otherwise, an article 5 convention and a new political party and we remove the corporate oligarchy and we install a genuine modern direct democracy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPR3GlpQQJA

I have been active here since the very beginning, and since the very beginning I have been trying to make some core points. These points clearly have not been digested or fully understood by the mob, and so I'm going to try to make a further attempt here again.

  1. Merely protesting in the streets will not bring change. In fact merely protesting in the streets is in fact a means to the end of avoiding the real work of a revolution, which consists of the evolutionary solutions, answers, problem solving process, and new political alignment we create.
  2. This forum is absolutely disorganized. It won't be read by most people and it won't and can't function as a core organizational system.
  3. Back at the very start of this, I petitioned the admin to add multiple sub forums and a wiki. Multiple sub forums were promised but have never arrived. I think that this tells us that the intention actually of this forum is message control and containment. The entire purpose really of this forum has always been to keep us spinning in disorganization. We are hanging out on a forum that expressly exists to actually keep us confused and disorganized.
  4. The real work of a revolution isn't going to happen on forums, it needs to happen in a much more organized fashion using collaborative software.
  5. The assorted other details about how to collaborate, how to work open source direct democracy, how to focus in on science instead of isms, how to become hyper rational about this, are details which are essential and crucial, without which we can predict the movement to fail.
  6. Technically speaking we are not 99 percent, we are one tenth of one percent attempting to represent the 99 percent. Our core mission must be to communicate to and with the 99 percent, and get them to join us. This forum will not accomplish that and neither will any of the other main websites.
  7. You can follow other people out to other wikis and other websites, where they will try to get you to get involved with what they want and their program, but frankly speaking, there is no other website and no other operation out there which understands the complexities involved with meaningful organization. In short, everyones being led to get involved here there and everywhere else, scattering the movement in directions which ultimately do not gain us critical mass, criticial momentum, or critical systemic lucidity.
  8. I have managed to get a wiki put up and have already put on that wiki evolutionary details which make it more organized than anything else. I can't do this alone. There are 10 or so wikis now out there, most of which were created in response to my pleas for a wiki, and several of which are in domains owned and operated by some corporation, (wikia, etc) And which we can thus assume will simply be closed, shut down, or deleted if they become useful to the movement.
  9. Probably at least half of the invites you have to go participate at some other site are people who are scamming everyone to waste time and energy, distort the movement, co opt it, and etc. When you walk off into a closet ask yourself how you know that the closet isn't created by some fed, or by some republican, or by some democrat, in order to sway things in their direction.
  10. The only meaningful strategic option we have for real change in this country is to create a new third party, and take every political office in this country.
  11. Once that is done, we can have an article 5 convention. If we have an article 5 convention before getting rid of the oligachs, that just opens the genie from the bottle for them to abuse that process with their corruption and evil.

For these reasons, I beg of you to please immediately join me on the wiki. We need to have all of these details and all of these ideas put together in an organized fashion, rather than posted in a long scrawl which will never be read.

http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/THE_99%25_POLITICAL_PARTY

http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/Main_Page

http://www.followthemoney.org/?gclid=CMbY87bB-qsCFUPt7Qod9HE8mQ

http://maplight.org/us-congress/guide/data/money?9gtype=search&9gkw=list%20of%20campaign%20donations&9gad=6213192521.1&9gag=1786513361&gclid=CP61oYbB-qsCFQFZ7AodcTF0jw

http://www.opensecrets.org/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/our-new-wiki/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/non-violence-evolution-by-paradigm-shift/

[-] 0 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 13 years ago

media circus sports and sports hero worship and all of that is a problem- a problem making people intellectually and physically lazy, turning people into couch potatoes that never get exercise, and sucking up time and ad space in our media which would be far better spent on genuinely educational programming. organized media event team sports is a social disease. The sooner we cut that shit out the better.

anybody who WATCHES a basketball game from the sidelines has missed the point. either get up and play ball, or find something real to do with your time thats not a complete and total waste.

[-] 1 points by Onthefence (4) 13 years ago

Can't believe I took time away from watching game 7 to read that. YAWN.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 13 years ago

perfect proof and example, dumble down lazy couch potatos, thanks for making the point, but you seem to have missed the point i wasn't asking for people to raise their hands and self identify as sportsmedia lobotomized feudal peasants.

[-] 1 points by Onthefence (4) 13 years ago

I think your new top priority should be a good writing class. Good investment, too. Your vocabulary might impress your boyfriend but your delivery is dreadful. Boring, too. I'm yawning again.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 13 years ago

no point in writing class, i like stream of consciousness prole english mixed with my advanced vocabulary and thats where its going to stay. i can write college papers as soon as i have the motivation to do that- i know HOW. i make a CHOICE. informal english is good enough HERE.

your obviously engaged enough to respond, so your so called yawning is a rhetorical device. i have you hooked, prove me wrong. STFU.