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Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 27, 2011, 8:10 p.m. EST by jppt (82)
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Is that we need to come together as 100%. 100% that want things better for 100% of us. There are many ways to seek that end, I prefer the ones with the least amount of pain and suffering for the 100% and the most expedient routs. I would like to know and understand your view point.

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[-] 1 points by thrsaymaquf (15) 12 years ago

Gene Sharp - From Dictatorship to Democracy

The arabic, version of this book, was used to bring down dictator's in the middle east-

supported from within Serbia.

posted here is the book in both-pdf format & mp3 audio, in male & female voices. (English)
in " free" downloadable form-
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From Dictatorship to Democracy adobe-pdf - 1 mb  (english)

http://www.aeinstein.org/organizations/org/FDTD.pdf

female voice version (english)- mp3 - 154.02 MB 2.5 hours

http://www.multiupload.com/P45C8H7ED2

mp3 male voice version (english)-154.02 MB 2.5 hours

http://www.multiupload.com/1VGT1XI0BE

Arabic

http://www.aeinstein.org/organizations/org/FDTD_Arabic-2.pdf

simplefied chinese

http://www.aeinstein.org/organizations/org/FDTD_simp._Chinese.pdf

traditional chinese

http://www.aeinstein.org/organizations/org/FDTD_trad._Chinese.pdf

Gene Sharp's   web page  and  free  writings- 
<http://www.aeinstein.org/organizationsde07.html>
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Contents: FROM CHAPTER 1...

In recent years various dictatorships—of both internal and external origin—have collapsed or stumbled when confronted by defiant, mobilized people. Often seen as firmly entrenched and impregnable, some of these dictatorships proved unable to withstand the concerted political, economic, and social defiance of the people.

Since 1980 dictatorships have collapsed before the predominantly nonviolent defiance of people in Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, Poland, East Germany, Czechoslovakia and Slovenia, Madagascar, Mali, Bolivia, and the Philippines. Nonviolent resistance has furthered the movement toward democratization in Nepal, Zambia, South Korea, Chile, Argentina, Haiti, Brazil, Uruguay, Malawi, Thailand, Bulgaria, Hungary, Zaire, Nigeria, and various parts of the former Soviet Union (playing a significant role in the defeat of the August 1991 attempted hard-line coup d’état).

In addition, mass political defiance has occurred in China, Burma, and Tibet in recent years. Although those struggles have not brought an end to the ruling dictatorships or occupations, they have exposed the brutal nature of those repressive regimes to the world community and have provided the populations with valuable experience with this form of struggle.

The collapse of dictatorships in the above named countries certainly has not erased all other problems in those societies: poverty, crime, bureaucratic inefficiency, and environmental destruction are often the legacy of brutal regimes. However, the downfall of these dictatorships has minimally lifted much of the suffering of the victims of oppression, and has opened the way for the rebuilding of these societies with greater political democracy, personal liberties, and social justice.

thrasymaque

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[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 12 years ago

"The collapse of dictatorships in the above named countries certainly has not erased all other problems in those societies: poverty, crime, bureaucratic inefficiency, and environmental destruction are often the legacy of brutal regimes."

Seems familiar...

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[-] 1 points by thrsaymaquf (15) 12 years ago

no it will take around 10 years, for it to spread, everywhere and stabilize. this is the next stage---------------------------------- The Anti-Coup

by Gene Sharp and Bruce Jenkins

pdf english

http://www.aeinstein.org/organizations/org/TAC-1.pdf

pdf french

http://www.multiupload.com/G8MJB8LTFZ

As coups are one of the primary ways through which dictatorships are installed, this piece details measures that civilians, civil society, and governments can take to prevent and block coups d'état and executive usurpations. It also contains specific legislative steps and other measures that governments and non-governmental institutions can follow to prepare for anti-coup resistance. For more information click here. 64 pp. 2003 ---------------------------------------------------thrasymaque

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[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 12 years ago

"no it will take around 10 years, for it to spread, everywhere and stabilize."

What will?

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[-] 1 points by thrsaymaquf (15) 12 years ago

yes------------------------------thrasymaque

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[-] 1 points by starSparrow (23) 12 years ago

Don't forget the coldest wind shall still turn the grain-mill.

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[-] 1 points by jppt (82) 12 years ago

Would that mean all people are alike 99%=1%?

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[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 12 years ago

I'd like to share some words of wisdom from Trey Parker and Matt Stones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cV_q-mVAAA

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[-] 1 points by jppt (82) 12 years ago

Does that mean you think an old man like me might be making a little sense?

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[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 12 years ago

Well no.

Why would an asshole give up something when they can have everything?

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[-] 1 points by jppt (82) 12 years ago

Well it is possible that if the AH can learn that it is the mouth's job to consume and it's job to eliminate it might be more giving.

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[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 12 years ago

Ideally yes.

But the fact of the matter is that the 1% are the ones causing all these problems.

They don't want anything specifically. They just want power over the rest.

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[-] 1 points by jppt (82) 12 years ago

That is why we need them in the mix so that they can let us know how they are so successful and how they might help us get what we want. Better a friend than an enemy be.

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[-] 1 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 12 years ago

Your sentiments are noble and I embrace them as well. The 1% are kinda scared too because they don't have any answers and people are calling for their heads. I don't want their life or lifestyle, but I'm not going to watch them bungle along ruining peoples lives and our kids futures.

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[-] 1 points by jppt (82) 12 years ago

I see your point yet just maybe they like us stumbled into a world that they saw needed fixing yet saw the fix as being needed some-wheres else than where you seem to feel the fixing is needed.

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[-] 0 points by kingscrosssection (314) 12 years ago

This remind me of something I heard several years ago. Socialism is a great system and it could work. However, it will only work if everyone wants it to work. And I'm sorry sir/madam but not everyone wants it to work.

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[-] 2 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 12 years ago

The same could be said about capitalism.

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[-] 1 points by kingscrosssection (314) 12 years ago

Capitalism works because of the setup. People want which drives the market. In socialism people are not supposed to want for anything which means the government has control of every aspect of the people's lives.

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[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 12 years ago

In capitalism people are forced to want things. The economy grows only as consumption goes up. If consumption ever goes down people are punished with recessions and depressions.

Either way socialism has a very wide spectrum. It ranges from dictatorship to no government the same way capitalism does.

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[-] 1 points by kingscrosssection (314) 12 years ago

I don't know about you but I'm not forced to want a car or a computer I can put in my pocket. If you want lower prices get everyone to sit out and i guarantee to you that prices will drop without a recession. Take gas. You want cheaper gas you don't drive for a week with the rest of the country backing you and the gas will be cheaper.

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