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Forum Post: msnbc interview

Posted 12 years ago on Sept. 26, 2011, 5:59 p.m. EST by blackrooster2 (0) from Newton, NJ
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i saw kelly heresy interviewed on MSNBC today and came away thinking his message was muddled. a communications plan is needed with objectives and tactics. future spokespersons for the movement should be articulate and have a set of clear talking points set out by the plan.



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[-] 1 points by baxtonblues22 (13) 12 years ago

OWS shouldve been more organized. This couldve been much bigger. People are eager to get involved but are waiting to see what OWS is about? No Leader no demand. Sounds odd. I think TEAMSTERS will make an advanced replacement of this group. Bums will always be stinky bums. Workers will always be workers even if they dont have a job. The Worker is a real voice

[-] 1 points by GandhiKingMindset (124) 12 years ago

I agree, however, to have a clear message, we need to have a clear demand. Below are my thoughts on that:

We are gaining momentum and the world is waking up to this incredible protest. We have remained non-violent. Many in America are sympathetic and are grateful that we are taking a stand. But occupying the park and marching by themselves are not enough. The world and our supporters will get energized if we get tactical and take action:

FIRST - Kudos to those who found a way to organize upcoming press conference on the steps of city hall. The videos of police using brutal physical force and pepper spray against peaceful protestors do an incredible job displaying the brutality of the power structure. King, Gandhi, Abbey Hoffman and countless others who are / were professionals at non-violent action and peaceful provocation would absolutely be calling a press conference denouncing these actions and showing these videos at the press conference. This puts the police on the defensive.

SECOND - King and Gandhi were successful in part because they were experts at tactical non-violence. We can follow in their footsteps by blocking the entrances to Wall St. offices this week. As we know, police have set up what amounts to a Green Zone around Wall St. But the suits have to enter somewhere. They have to leave the public street and enter that Green Zone somewhere. That point where public meets private should be the very center of our focus for non-violent resistance and occupation. Even as the location of that intersection shifts, we can always identify it. By definition there must always be an entrance and that entrance should be our focus.

THIRD - OUR ONE DEMAND - We should make one single demand: "Shut Down Wall St." Why are we shutting down Wall St.? "Because Wall St. is hurting Americans, hurting citizens of the world and ruining our environment." When they fail to shut down Wall St., we do it for them in a non-violent way using peaceful non-violent resistance. And when the press asks, why.... We answer "We shut down Wall St. for a day so America and the world could breathe for a day, be free of the plutocracy for a day, be free of the exploitation for a day, be free of the greed for a day. Many will ask "What good is a day?" and we'll answer: "You call it a day. We call it a pretty good start. If someone has their foot on your neck for years and years and you non-violently force that foot to be removed for a day, that allows you breathing room for all sorts of options.

FOURTH - HOW - To shut it down, we need human chains of 30, 50, 90, 150, 300 people linked together (think zip ties) blocking the various entrances. The police will find it almost impossible to deal with these human blockades. This will create the largest pedestrian traffic jam New York has ever seen and the people who have been trading on the world's misery for so long simply won't be able to get in to do it that day. It will help if we don't go in as a march but instead go dark as regular old NYC pedestrians from all directions and then show up there at the same time. I am aware that now protestors have found access to a large cache of civilian clothes that will allow many of the new people arriving to blend in (suits, ties, the works). This new donation will make it much easier to blend in up until the point of protest. And it will also gum up the works even more, making it easier to shut down Wall St. because now the police can't tell who's who and they need to stop EVERYONE, even the suits. Their Green Zone will then break down.

FIFTH - THE RESULT - The result of this direct non-violent action, this just protest, is that the front page of newspapers around the world will show images peaceful American youth shutting down the financial district that has wrought so much destruction around the world for so long. They'll be inspired by the ingenuity, the success and the courage and the movement will grow EXPONENTIALLY. Gandhi and King have given us the playbook. It's peaceful non-resistance. And it works.

We have the stage but that's not enough. It's time for direct action. It's time for civil disobedience to bring the truth into the light. They are not equipped to deal with it. They don't know what to do with non-violence because all the cameras are rolling and whatever they do makes them look bad. We will confound them if we take direct action. The spirit of Abbey Hoffman, Martin L King and Gandhi is with us. It's time to use their playbook. It's time for ACTION!!! Civil disobedience. Our disobedience will be consistently blocking the entrances to Wall Street’s offices. They will find us coming together to block these entrances wherever they move them. Because there is always an intersection where public meets private. No matter where they move it, we’ll be there. We will be there.

[-] 1 points by baxtonblues22 (13) 12 years ago

Do you hear yourself? Shut it down? You reform it with new laws and new people. Your in never never land. No business means no food, no water, no gas, No nursing home care etc. Some people at OWS are the real deal. Others are delusional and in need if psychiatric medication most definitely. Its posts like yours that damage the movement and lose the interest of high profile individuals like Michael Moore

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

baxtons right. but then. the whole protest thing is a waste of time compared to working on real solutions. Form science centered open source thinktanks, THEN protest. otherwise..got no ammo.