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Forum Post: Move the movement to DC!

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 16, 2011, 5:31 p.m. EST by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC
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I respectfully suggest that we've done all we can in NYC and elsewhere. We have proven that we are both reasonable and serious, and that we have the best interests of the nation at heart. Many comments here indicate that we're ready for something more, and that Wall Street is not the venue for it. Therefore, I propose:

The entire Occupy movement should come down to DC and camp in Anacostia Park, site of the original Bonus March Encampment in 1932. Do what the Bonus Marchers did. Set up a clean, formal encampment. I'm sure there are enough sponsors who will pay for potties and showers.

Then, every day, all those at the encampment should get up at 6:30 a.m. and march down Maryland Avenue to the Capitol and spend the day visiting their Senators and Representatives. Every day until they get something done, like a nationwide Section 8 subsidy program so that everyone pays 1/3 of their monthly income for housing.

Let's get organized, Fellow Workers!



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[-] 3 points by Malcolm (9) from Miami, FL 12 years ago

The entire Occupy movement ACROSS THE NATION needs to converge on Washington. Wall Street may suck but its CORRUPT POLITICS that allow what they do.

No marches. OCCUPATION. Day in, day out, long haul.

It would also help to actually have a GOAL. I suggest the end to corporate personhood (which allowed them to basically buy out the government and ruin our economy).

[-] 2 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 12 years ago



another suggestion: A national "Section 8 housing stimulus" which will extend to all citizens a subsidy if needed that will provide that no person will pay more than 1/3 monthly income for housing. The structure already exists, and it's a bit too complicated to set out here, but it certainly can be worked out once we're in residence in DC. It will effectively give every household the income necessary to both save and spend, therefore stimulating the economy in the way the previous packages failed to do.

[-] 1 points by Malcolm (9) from Miami, FL 12 years ago

My family would be homeless if not for Section 8's help sometimes. I definitely approve of them.

[-] 1 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

so get the word out. Another demand: Public financing of elections. We can make this happen if enough people get the energy to come down here.

Besides, the weather will be better than in NYC for the next 6 months.

[-] 2 points by redavocet (38) 12 years ago

Great idea - although they'll probably reanimate MacArthur so he can right through the camp and butcher people. You're right - get rid of corporations - they have too much power and are practically unaccountable. Or give them a time limit like the originally had when they were started.

[-] 2 points by ghostofbettermen (19) from Muncie, IN 12 years ago

I am in support of this. We have Occupied Wall St, and it got everyone's attention. We need to move the entire movement to DC. It's the only place we will see real change.

[-] 2 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

get the word out. Either cut and paste my proposal on every comment page you visit, or just cut and paste the following url:


[-] 2 points by tomcat68 (298) 12 years ago

Good Idea. Unless we can now vote bankers out of wallstreet, and I don't think we can. Maybe we should try a viable option.


[-] 2 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

Right on! And I'm happy to report that it is...starting Monday, so far, (twitt baby) I have 30 followers who have a total of 150K followers, was retreated by Occupy LA, Ohio, SLC. Marines, etc..go here:

Here is it, three forums in one, to hopefully get the OWS get Focused (no affiliation but common sense) and do something for these protestors that they can really be proud of; and there is nothing bigger on Wall Street then to bring back the G-S Act closing oil speculators loopholes..

howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @CapitolHillJobs Thanks Hill! My hometown! Together we will Fix It. One for the Glass-Steagall Act Believers: http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-day-the-gramm-leach-bliley-act-of-1999-came-up/ … Cheers!

The only way to do this right, is if we all come together! Solidarity!

[-] 2 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

hey, a "like" from you will move this up in the queue....

[-] 1 points by Howtodoit (1232) 12 years ago

Cool! See you DC, However, besides the WDC March, I feel the best way--and maybe only way--for this to work is to also have Marches held in every City on 6/16/12, and keep it up until Congress listens--and if they don't, you what to do with your vote, next...But why wait for 6/16/12? Let's start today!

And I should point-out here that I'm an Independent, nothing said or posted here was swayed by any affiliations, except for the school of common sense.

I just saw an opportunity here with this OWS Forum to hopefully help more people understand how and why we got into this financial mess, and one possible way to fix it. That's all. God Bless America!


[-] 2 points by julianzs (147) 12 years ago

This post proposes that OWS movement be directed at the people downstairs instead of the Lord of the Manor.

[-] 2 points by Thinkdeer (250) 12 years ago

Though I can not speak on behalf of Oldleftie, I do not believe he is suggesting that we stop holding wall street accountable, but rather that we knock on every door and bend every ear.

[-] 2 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

I am proposing that we take our petition for redress of grievances to those responsible both for creating the situation and for resolving it. We can take this Congress to task if we simply focus all our energy on the one place in which we are absolutely entitled to stand and from which we are constitutionally assured we can not be evicted, the Halls of Congress!


[-] 1 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

sorry, julianzs, that's too cryptic for me. Can you elucidate?

[-] 2 points by SweetRuss (2) from New York, NY 12 years ago

I'm organizing a HUGE march on D.C. for Saturday, March 24th - Basically my hope is that all Occupy Movements around the Country (and Globe) can meet up on this one day - and we get 1,000,000 people on Obama's front door step.

I started a Facebook event and I'm asking that everyone invite 200 of their friends so that by end of 2011 - we have around 100,000 invited.


I was able to speak on the OWS Webcast about this last night at Zuccotti Park, and share some info with other journalists, but it's just me - so I need everyone's help.

Together we can make one of the most historic days in World History and no amount of cops, army, or federal officials can stop a flooding of one million people peacefully converging on D.C. on March 24th, 2012!

[-] 2 points by Cayo69 (2) from Las Vegas, NV 12 years ago

I would suggeest meeting at the front door of congress. Obama can say what he would like done or not, but with our system, we need a majority of our other 535 employees in order to even send Obama something to sign.

[-] 2 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

I don't think we should 1) wait until March, or 2) make it a "march". We need to occupy DC in the real sense of the word. A march will do no more than past marches have done. Everyone feels good and goes home. Please do some reading about the Bonus March of 1932. We need to get thousands of people ready to stay on for the long haul, going every day to their representatives' offices, perhaps even putting together a "shadow government" responding daily to the work being done in Congress. Not March 24... Now!

[-] 0 points by buphiloman (840) 12 years ago

There is Already an Occupy DC camp on the National Mall 24/7 ...has been for over a month.

And there is an Occupy the Highway March making the 300 mile trek from Zucotti to Pennsylvania Ave on Foot (the left about a week ago).

So your comment and all the others like it are too late, and tone def. Get informed.

[-] 1 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

boy, you really are full of yourself, aren't you. Need that narcissistic boost, or are you just feeling sadistic?

so others share my idea, but how many others here know about it. for that matter, when did you learn about it? I bet it was today, pal, because you've been trolling me now for a while, and you didn't mention it before.

It's ok, folks, he means well, it's just sometimes he forgets to take his meds on time...

[-] 1 points by buphiloman (840) 12 years ago

No, I am just sick of people constantly touting the right-wing, Herman Caine, "they should be marching on the White House" bullshit. WE ARE marching on the White House, and WE ARE Occupying the National Mall. Sheesh. Get informed people.

[-] 1 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

we are not occupying the National Mall. We are occupying a postage stamp called McPherson Park. I am not proposing that we march on the White House. I am proposing that we march on CONGRESS, the source of ALL the problems we are experiencing, because laws could be passed tomorrow that would give us what we need to change this country if the politicians were not the willing minions of Wall Street. Look at it this way: If we shut down Wall Street, they simply move their operations to their Chicago offices for however long it takes. Or anywhere else in the world. They can't be stopped. They are privateeers. Unless we get the government behind us, they will rule. Our best strategy is to reclaim our capital and force our elected representatives to do what we elected them to do. You are free to disagree of course, but how about doing so without being compelled to insult potential allies?

[-] 1 points by buphiloman (840) 12 years ago

Congress isn't the source. They're a symptom. The Corporate plutocracy that OWNS Congress and both major parties, is the problem.

[-] 1 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

Our claim for the OWS is that we are petitioning for the redress of grievances. That is our one claim for our residency on any property. Wall Street may be the culprit, and the root, but it is not the proper place for a petition under the Constitution for the redress of grievances. DC is. They can't pull a Zuccotti Park eviction from a Federal Park. So far, the DC police have been relatively calm. The city administration is bound to be in sympathy with us. And Congress can't shift its work to other sites. I don't deny that the Corporate plutocracy owns congress. But that doesn't mean that we can't take it from them if we make it clear we are ready to stay as long as it takes, come to their offices day after day, occupy every public building for as long as we can, be in their corridors, at their parking lots, in front of their restaurants, at their press conferences and then at the voting booths. If we do this we may even be able to create the third party we need to make real changes in November.



[-] -1 points by Bambi (359) 12 years ago

You should be in WASHINGTON. It's their fault....not ours! Please leave us in cities that have parks, alone......and take your fight to WASHINGTON where it belongs

(Better old man? L)

[-] 2 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

who are you? Why are you so emotional and insulting? Who has made any threats to burn down NYC and why are you making your comment here when I haven't said a word to you?

Oh, by the way, I AM in Washington. That's the whole point of this post! Now, don't you feel at least the smallest bit foolish?

[-] 1 points by Bambi (359) 12 years ago

I don't feel foolish. I work for a living and not hanging out in parks for 2 months. I do not appreciate any of you idiots speaking for me. I am one of the 99%. Go to hell

You think this is impressive???? Watch the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilq_66LnRaw&feature=player_embedded#!

[-] 1 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

Bambi, you know it is cowardice to insult someone from the darkness of anonymity. Once again, I ask you, tell me specifically what in my post about going to DC is responded to by your insulting comments?

[-] 0 points by Bambi (359) 12 years ago

Ya think???? How's this for a private cowardly message you sent to me.....who by the way..is a 58year old woman.

Yes folks....this is what represents US working people LOL

OldLeftie said 0 minutes ago at Nov. 16, 2011, 6:07 p.m. EST (delete) you're a coward. You're probably also a guy posing as a girl. Any time you want to meet me face to face, come to DC, I'll meet you at any police station you name so you can feel safe, and you can tell me what you think of me in front of cops. I won't hold my breath, because we both know you'll never do it

[-] 1 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

lol, dear, I'm older than you. I made my comment in private to spare you the embarrassment that you now must face by making it public. Now, why don't you tell us all how my private comment was cowardly?

[-] 0 points by Bambi (359) 12 years ago

You can't embarrass me. You are only embarrassing yourself. Come and shuffle up to Buffalo. I dare you.

heehee...like that doncha

[-] 1 points by OldLeftie (253) from Washington, DC 12 years ago

been there, done that, dearie. As I said, you made a comment on my thread that was totally inappropriate. You still have not bothered to justify it. So for the moment, you are the one in the wrong.

[-] 1 points by GreedKills (1119) 12 years ago

They are just tossing slander all around to see if it sticks somewhere. Truly pathetic.