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Forum Post: Most cowardly President in recent history

Posted 10 years ago on April 5, 2012, 11:17 a.m. EST by aflockofdoofi2 (-66)
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The wimp we have in office now ould have easily created a public option, entirely bulletproof from constitutional threat, by implementing a payroll tax to fund the public option.

He is such a coward. Pres Bush was at least firm in his leadership.



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[-] 6 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

You, 'acrockofdoofus' really are an insidious Two-faced Troll of the highest order.

You hate Obomber NOT for any reasons to do with his inability to secure 'Single Payer Healthcare' or Ohbummer's failure to install any other quasi-progressive measures - but your hate for Oblah-blah comes from your human-hating ; atrophied ; Rabidly Rightwing ; Randian ; stone-cold - heart !

Your empty head is jammed so far up your Rancid Republican (x) that Of Course you miss that Total Fuckin' Retard 'G. Dubya B.' and this much is true from your idiot post but as for "firm in his leadership" - well you are the kind of idiot who is utterly blind to the Massive Damage that this 'W'idiot and his Evil Coterie did to Most (99%) Americans and to the image and reputation of The U$A abroad, as well as being ... Enabler-In-Chief to The Bankster-$cum !!

GWB can not even travel anywhere in The World at large (even Canada!) without the real risk of mass protests and attempts at Citizens' Arrest for WAR-Crimes - and you hanker after 'his firm leadership' !!!

What a total fuckin' dolt you are ...

temet nosce ..

et caveat .

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 10 years ago

right on - this guy is a jerk



[+] -4 points by aflockofdoofi2 (-66) 10 years ago

Why is healthcare in front of the Supreme Court? Because Obama didnt have the courage to add a necessary tax to move healthcare to his campaign promise of a public option. Instead he cobbles together a foolish " mandate" that isnt likely constitutional.

A payroll tax to fund healthcare is already tried and true. But he knew a "tax" would be unpopular and weaken his chance at a 2nd term, so he chickened out.

When you revert to insults, without questioning content, I know i hit paydirt. I just articulated what most Obama supporters believe deep down, he bailed on his promise. Now they are left to decry and lambaste the Supreme Court, knowing in their hearts he bailed on them.

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

Here's the "content" that I'm "questioning" : "Pres Bush was at least firm in his leadership." !!! Numpty !!

nosce te impsum !

[+] -5 points by aflockofdoofi2 (-66) 10 years ago

Bush did what he said he would do. You can argue that much of what he did was wrong, but he did it.

Everyone told him the surge wouldnt work but he committed to it and it worked.

[-] 2 points by Puzzlin (2898) 10 years ago


And then we lost the Iraq War anyway. We should NEVER have been there. Period. Bush LIED and our precious sons and daughters DIED.

Next you'll tell us that we won. We didn't. Bush's Nation Building FAILED. Iraq is far from a democracy. Far from it!!! Of course when they descend back in chaos years from now you'll somehow selectively forget it was even Bush who put us there and somehow that will be the Dems fault too.

The Iraq War was horrible WASTE.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

"The Iraq War was horrible WASTE." & a Criminal Conspiracy ; Criminal Endeavour and WAR-CRIME !!!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 years ago

@ 'acrockofdoofus' : I think you ought to consider ;

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

This has to be the least informed interpretation I've seen yet.

Teabaggers raised my taxes already, I can't afford another.

You never read the links I provided to explain the health care dilemma, then you come up with this shit?

Get a job. You're wasting your time.


[-] -2 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

another day and shoozie is still whinning and using invectives.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

You say that like you read them.

You didn't. How is that an invective?


[-] -2 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

look up "invective". it will help you with your lack of reading comprehension.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

You mean like the ones you just used on me?

Mine comes from a frustration with posters who refuse to read important information, like yourself, and then they carry thread to it's end with inane comments.

[-] -1 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

care to tell me what words you're talking about? if you know that you're frustrated than you know enough to monitor the words you use.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

As soon as you tell me what mine were.

[-] -2 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

you use the word "teabagger" if you don't know what it means you shouldn't be using it. If you do know what it means and use it in reference to the Taxed Enough Already people, you're using it as an invective.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

I didn't "choose" that, they did. before they understood what it meant.

That's dumb.

Then they raised my taxes.

That makes 'em liars, worse than the rest..

If you are one of those? You should leave their fold now.

They are brain lazy.

[-] -2 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

you used the term,.....more than once. you "chose " to do so. you know what it means. who is the " they" you speak of?

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

That's correct, and I'm going to keep on using it.

I'm not going to argue they with you, as it was on their signs in their early days.

Teabaggers are ruining my Country with their lies!!!!

There's a whole 'nuther thread on it. Come, join in.....:)



[-] 0 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

shoozie,...........................the washington post is a left leaning paper and they make no bones about it. why do you consider bush to be a coward?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Care to try and prove your assertion about the Post?

Bush? I already posted that response. You just missed it, like always.

[-] -1 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

the washington post ( a left leaning paper) are calling it " taxmageddon" Obama . who said in 2009,........" if your family earns less than $250,00, you will not see your txes increased a single dime". He LIED. a 34% increase comes from the 2001, 2003 expiration of the the Bush tax cuts. these tax cuts are best known fo for reducing the marginal rates. they also reduced the marriage penalty ,increased the child tax credit, and tha adoption credit, and increased tax breaks for education costs and dependent care costs. another 25% comes from the expiration of the once temporary payroll tax cut. the expiration on the AMT wich would raise the income threshold over which families qualify for the AMT to prevent middle income families from paying this tax is only suppose to impact " the rich" accounts for 24% of the 2013 tax increases. the balance of the news taxes come in part from OBAMACARE, the expiration of the 2009 stimulus tax cuts , the expiration of a group of policies known as tax extenders, changes in the current policy in the death tax,it will rise from 35 % to 55%. no one lies more than obama and his hacks.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Absolutely no one has a problem with extending tax breaks for the middle and lower class. all that needs be done is to remove the wealthy and super wealthy from those breaks.


[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

You blew your argument at "left leaning paper" and then quoting an op ed.

Every thing there has been posted on else where on the forum.

Teabaggers already raised my taxes.

Liars worse than the rest.

That's the point I'm making. Since you ignored my post on how BIG a coward Bush is.

[-] -1 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

500 billion in tax hikes coming in january 2013,..thanks to obama. over the next decade it will add up to 5 trillion due to obama.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Is it possible for you to EVER stick to a subject????

Teabaggers raised my taxes!!!! They also raised taxes on the poor!!!

Teabaggers are the REAL cowards ruining our Country!!!

Teabaggers are cookie cutter liars.

Worse than the rest.

[-] -1 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

if americas economy were a minority , obama would be guilty of a hate crime for the the things he's done to it.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

No he wouldn't. You would have already convicted Bush, most of the (R)epelican't party and good portion of the Dems.....

You just kept your ear plugs in and your blinders on for over 8 years now.

You suffer from sensory deprivation.

Teabaggers would still be liars anyway, if they would even exist.

[-] -1 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

to get an idea of how bad things are, there would have to be over 15 million new jobs just to get the ratio of employed americans up t the same place it was in 2007. there have been 37 months of 8% or higher unemployment, the longest streak since FDR was in office. obama has racked up bigger deficits in 3 years and 2months than bush did in 2 terms.

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

!00% disinformed, misinformed BS.

These have all been prove to be not as stated in other threads.

Please stop repeating the same lies over and over.

By the way, shut off FLAKESnews while you're at it.

It makes you stupid, and too cowardly to face the truth.

Teabaggers are lying sacks of **!

[-] -3 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

the usa is being ruined ( killed ) by obama & co.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

It was sunk at the end of 8 years of rampant (R)epelicantism. It still amazes me that so many conse(R)vatives missed those 8 years.

[-] 1 points by Puzzlin (2898) 10 years ago

Your a troll PO. Your invective when you judge others as below you. A$$hat.

[-] -1 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

You need to take a remedial English class.

[-] 2 points by Puzzlin (2898) 10 years ago

What's your obsession with grammar? Are you grammar school teacher?

If that's so, then you best get busy, there's grammatical mistakes almost in every post in this forum!

(I guess that's all your posts are just one sentence Mr.English Teacher)

Maybe you could whittle it down to one word like your GOP friends, NO.

The Puzzler

[-] 1 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

"Grammar"? lol. try reading what you posted,.............including your current post..

[-] 2 points by Puzzlin (2898) 10 years ago


How's that teach???

Don't re-post me again, I'm done with you TROLL

[-] -1 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

puzz is having a hissy fit.

[-] 0 points by Puzzlin (2898) 10 years ago

ANd your just an invective TROLL

[+] -4 points by slammersworldwillnotbecensored (-184) 10 years ago

that's all he does......

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Say's the know and proven narcissist.

How many iterations have you needed for your username?

[-] -1 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

with screen name like that ,shooz is a guy? lol.

[+] -5 points by aflockofdoofi2 (-66) 10 years ago

Just to frost your ass. I am retiring in 7-8 years at between $20000-40000/month income and YOU will be funding my Medicare and $2300 Social Security that I will be using for 2 country club memberships.


[-] 2 points by Quark3 (54) 10 years ago

Not if Instant Karma gets YOU!


[-] 0 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

i hope you make it. if you're telling the truth, you're everything obama hates.

[+] -4 points by aflockofdoofi2 (-66) 10 years ago

He should love me. I have to send $60k with my tax return. I am gonna hate that.


[-] 0 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

he wont love you until he gets all of your money.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Soros pays me that for every day I post here...........:)



[+] -4 points by aflockofdoofi2 (-66) 10 years ago

I used to caddy at this very upper crust country club, and these rich old moneybags would have a big party on the day they got their SS checks. Steak, lobster, wine.

I used to resent them. Now I am one of them. Ironic.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

You'll love it!

Just another sad old man, all alone and dying of cancer.


[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

It is a known medical fact ( now ) that the abused will often grow-up to be abusers. If they are left to stew in the poisons inflicted upon them. You can get help you know.

[-] -3 points by aflockofdoofi2 (-66) 10 years ago

Thanks, but I'll try to muddle along myself, at least until i get sick of steak and lobster and some good single malt scotch.

[-] -1 points by betuadollar (-313) 10 years ago

That's a really, really, foolish statement. Federal taxes in the form of withholding are absolutely unconstitutional and everybody knows that - that's the reason they do not arbitrarily tax; do that and we all become the Queen's subjects; there will be insurrection and everybody knows that, too.

[-] 3 points by factsrfun (8306) from Phoenix, AZ 10 years ago

Bushy really reveled his courage; AWOL in GA during nam.

[-] -1 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

he was in the national guard,.and the so called story you're referring to was proved to be a fabrication,................but you know the MSM media,............its the seriousness of the charge that matters,...not the facts. cases in fact,............. duke lacross team, tawana brawley.

[-] 3 points by factsrfun (8306) from Phoenix, AZ 10 years ago

nice try,, as the trolls like to say, but I saw his evals with my own eyes, he was AWOL in GA, that's a fact, not a story, saw it myself.

[-] -1 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

what you saw was a fabrication. rather's story was quickly proven false. you remember dan rather.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (8306) from Phoenix, AZ 10 years ago

no it wasn't, check out "the smoking gun" I know what I saw, sorry, this is not the only eval I've seen

ps my knowledge of the events haven’t anything to do with rather

[-] 0 points by po6059 (72) 10 years ago

rathers "story" was a fabrication. NBC has just fired the producer that editied out the complete 911 call from zimmerman. NBC knowingly doctored the tape. what else hae NBC lied about?


[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 years ago

Yeah ( Bush ) he looked to be real firm when he was frenching the Saudi Prince. I believe they got carried away in the moment having a waking wet dream about un-precidented oil futures profits.

[-] 2 points by ikki6 (11) 10 years ago

lol, Bush is the reason for a lot of your problem. rofl


[-] 1 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 10 years ago

I agree with half your post but Bush was the worst prez ever. Obama was a constitutional scholar and he and his lawyers should have seen the unconstitutionality of the mandate. Maybe he did. He also refused to put single-payer on the table .............. which is constitutional.

[-] 1 points by Puzzlin (2898) 10 years ago

A flock of doof, who has troll like ways, says the president is "cowardly".

Then says again "He is such a coward"

Why? Some may ask.

Because he LOVES Bush, holds him up as firm in leadership Well this simply reminds me of how Bush FIRMLY just about drove this country off a cliff, into a depression, bailed out the money grubbing banks, and lied us into the Iraq War!

He compares Obama to Bush and somehow believes Bush is clearly so much better simply because he was FIRM. In the real world this is called STUBBORN. That he was, no one will dispute, it is exactly why most now hate him. Bush is already going down as one of the top ten worse presidents of all time.

Then he has the gull to call Obama a coward. The president who DID take out Bin Laden, because Bush, quote "didn't care", had bigger things to do like wrecking the country, giving those tax cuts to the rich.

It's obvious Flocko doesn't get how real politics works obviously. He wanted single payer just like all of us did. But President Obama is not the dictator in chief. Flockos friends the Repugs and Tea Party DID NOT want any kind of healthcare reform and fought Obama tooth & nail and tried to stop him from getting anything done. Anything!

It's just completely astounding that Flocko even mentions Bush around here. He seems proud of the **Bushwacker**. Only a tea bagger can relish that thought.

Flocko your opinion is so off the charts, this alone puts you in with those Trolls who just like to "stir the pot" for no good reason. (You throw down a couple incendiary lines and start a thread with no FACTS.) You believe this somehow helps your cause and really does the exact opposite. It only reminds US why we must keep fighting the likes people like you who LOVE nothing more then return to the dismantling of this great country and give it ALL away to the rich so they greedly hoard more money and start up their casino game again on Wall Street.

[-] 1 points by enough (587) 10 years ago

Both of these sellout presidents allowed Wall Street banksters to pull off the biggest heist of taxpayer funds in U.S. history. And both of them solicited money from Wall Street interests and made sure Wall Street cronies were put in charge of our financial system at the Federal Reserve, at the U.S. Treasury, and the SEC.


[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

You say that as if the wrong wing and you in particular wouldn't be screaming bloody murder if did.

Leave it to a regressive to post idiotic what ifs.

Do you have a scenario for what if Dewey really did win?

[-] 1 points by AlaneBrooks (-2) 10 years ago

better Obama than McCain



[-] -1 points by GordonGekk0 (3) 10 years ago

STOP the hate against BHO. If I had an imaginary son he would look like the President

[-] -2 points by Quark3 (54) 10 years ago

I think this is way of reverse psychology, forcing the republican hand. In other words we will get the single pay option because the Affordable Care Act is unconstitutional. It is Obama's way of getting everyone on the same side. He is a parent & knows the power of reverse psychology.